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Added Space posted:I am going to point out both of us are within range of their guns and in the open, so standing still will just get us slaughtered. I don't think we can avoid enemy artillery. Falling back just moves the area the problem is currently occurring in and also means that you are trying to move while getting shelled. I'm not saying this to shut you down, I'm not sure myself, but I thiiink we are better off defending. Tatankatonk, steinrokkan, sniper, anyone with experience care to chime in?
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Ok we talked it over in the chat, division orders forthcoming in about three hours because I have to take care of something. For the time being we should name a provisional commander for that lost brigade in the south, the only reason it is where it is is because its brigadier went MIA.
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  Orders, Saxon Infantry Division Division HQ is to remain in Stethoscope. 86bde (Added Space) 86bde is to fall back into the trenches behind it and switch to defend. 87bde 87bde is to withdraw east across the river and take up positions in MG range of the fords. 88bde 88bde is to move north and entrench on the western edge of Tallis Douche, defending the fords and artillery. Divisional Library Click the link below for a post with orders that Trin liked a lot, so if you get stuck you can use that as a rough guide on what needs to be in there: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3809300&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=5#post469398076 Click the link below for a compilation by Jaguars! of important rules posts: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3809300&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=38#post470531365 Click the link below for a pic of the command-approved infantry fighting formation: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3809300&pagenumber=38#post470554394 aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Württemberg is notable for being the second coolest half of the modern state of Baden-Württemberg (the first rule of Baden-Württemberg is that you do not talk about Hohenzollern [Southwest Germany inside joke heyooo]). Their flag is kinda lame but their coat of arms is PROPER SICK: 
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Mar 28, 2017 20:19
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The city objective is just a big walk in this general direction arrow. The actual win condition is being slightly farther west than that river, which is conspicuously located at the halfway point of the map. Digging in west of the river is a favorable position as per our orders - it saves us having to force a crossing in the beginning of our next offensive. The force setup has been absolutely symmetrical last game and from what we've seen is so this game as well, so we cannot reasonably expect to somehow secure the entire map. At best we can shove something in the objective that will immediately die afterwards, which is what we did last game and what would have gotten us party wiped if enemy command and control hadn't been considerate enough to kamikaze. Our goal at this time should be to secure and gradually, situation permitting, expand, a firm foothold west of that river. Even advancing to the western border of either of those woods west of the river should be viewed as an optional, now-what-do-we-do-with-all-these-brigades type move.
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tatankatonk posted:40th (Saxon) Division Whoa rude man Aye aye sir e: poo poo, missed a prime opportunity to use the old "is that to include our heroic dead" chestnut aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Mar 29, 2017 18:57
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It might be fun to try out some sort of fire and maneuver scheme where the two brigades alternate attack and defense stances turn by turn. E: I mean staggered, A moves while B is halted, then B moves while A is halted.
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Mar 29, 2017 21:39
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Orders, 40th (Saxon) Division (remnants) Ikasuhito, remain in place, keep digging until you hit dwarves but not further to account for the risk of Balrogs, then settle down for ä Schälchn Heeßn Saxon: a little bowl of hot (stuff) = coffee, try to look unimportant, maybe the enemy is low on ammunition. [b]everyone else[b] Move to the orange circle on the map below, the one on the south portion of Chemin, entrench, identical caveats w/r/t Balrogs, hot drinks & being inconspicuous apply. 
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e: ^^^ digging thoseFathis Munk posted:Charging at night carries less risk of getting shot I guess? Less risk of being shot by the enemy maybe
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Just adapt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ for a military marching band and screams of anguish
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Jaguars! posted:Also holey moley, we vapourized a full strength BEF Brigade with almost 3:1 casualties Minus our bout of patricide that's without a doubt the best engagement we ever had. I'm literally crying at the sheer beauty of it. Orders, SaxonD Ikasuhito Hold position. Added Space: ESCORT MISSION Please liaise with engineer command and coordinate a joint movement plan for your brigade and the engineer detachment tasked with repairing our telephone line.
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It would be funny if we fail all order change attempts and still mulch another brigade somewhere and have to face the possibility that what's holding us back is us giving orders. But yeah we're dead.
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Are those guns we spotted in our arty range? I have a raging hateboner for those guys.
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Added Space posted:So my guys in Stethoscope have two fatigue and are combat ineffective. I can see three options - comb through the ferme and east side looking for our rogue wirecutter, dig in along the CC for rear security, or just stay in Stethoscope for some R&R. The proper Saxon expression is "ä Schälchn Heeßes"
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I know I say this every time but, uhhh, let's just hold in place. We have a defensible foothold across the river, let's use the reinforcement division to clean up our side and reinforce the by then depleted bridgehead units and call it. We need to be very clear that an attack means that those units are gone, meaning our ability to defend the bridgehead is gone, and this in a situation where we already can't keep the enemy out of our back field for lack of forces. Holding more than half the map and a bunch of river crossings is a minor victory very probably.
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Unless we've wiped out a bde with artillery without noticing we have the same odds of advancing that we always had. They are reinforcing at the same rate. Every attack we've ever done so far has ended up with a roughly 1:1 casualty distribution. They are there, we just can't see them at the moment, which is why we need a line across the map to hold on to our territory and have eyes on what they're doing. Any advance we try now will negate the protection from their arty the trenches are finally giving us and cost us enough that we won't be able to keep our gains, especially since we can't garrison the southern flank of our advance given the inevitable losses and the extension of the line advancing brings, leaving us in our traditional configuration of scattered brigade remnants stranded in untenable positions. On the other hand if we sit they are likely to be forced to attack to get back to territorial parity and have some chance at a draw or minor victory. As of now we have the upper hand. Orders, Saxon D Ikasuhito Hold your position. Added Space Secure and fortify the southern half of Chemin. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Apr 4, 2017 |
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I'm burnt out a little, I'd rather not command a brigade.
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The surprise entire loving BEF brigade on what we considered our side of the river really underscores the importance of actually maintaining a front line.
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Orders Ikasuhito Sorry, it's just hold again. Added Space Please adopt a tight west-facing defensive position centered on where the bulk of your brigade is right now. Push out a rifle chit towards the crossroads to your south as an observation post in case they try to sneak by.
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We should use half the new division to sweep towards the river in the south and then dig in our saddest brigade remnants in sight range of the crossings while the new division moves on to cross the river in the north to expand the bridgehead there. Between the two brigades we've wiped with favorable exchange rates we should have an advantage that we can exploit once we have a few troops to play around with that are not essential to keep eyes on what we already have. Please don't gamble with the only thing we have covering the south.
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Jaguars! posted:I work on a very simple principle. I won't attack unless I have 2:1 odds. If possible, I'll stack them even more. The basic unit of opposition is a brigade, so you need two at near full strength. Eventually we might advance in the south but this turn in particular, anything diluting the artillery support is something that won't happen. You have some support fire available for emergencies but that's it. I might love you
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steinrokkan posted:Just a small question before I start drawing things - IIRC the sighting range out of forests has been extended to go a bit deeper than the outermost layer. What about firing range? Can a unit an inch or two away from the edge fire unrestricted? Been trying to find confirmation, but this may be faster and more certain. Oh god I had suppressed the memory of that happening
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It might've been fun to pull a few of the surviving cav bdes out of the line after the arrival of the first infantry div. Get some replacement chits in them, then try a sort of infantry out front to absorb fire, then cav charges from slightly behind combined arms attack.
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Yeah it was a scramble for position and it basically worked out for us but it's fun to imagine wacky intricate attacks with staggered and offset infantry and cav or something.
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Why not wait for the new division before advancing? That way the whole advance doesn't evaporate at the first sign of trouble, leaving us pantsless.
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Added Space, you're on the forward edge of the battle area. Advancing towards the enemy is advancing towards the enemy, no matter what you call it. If you meet any snag whatsoever, enemy bde, arty, you go poof. And you're not making good use of terrain in stopping so close to the river, they are at leisure to just emplace on the other bank and blast you with impunity. If you wanna secure the river crossings stop so that the crossings are on the edge of your MG range so you can pick them off as they struggle across.Jaguars! posted:About 12 hours to go, get your orders in. Did I miss yours? I've been waiting for you.
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Orders, SaxonD Both brigades:  I'm really sorry Added Space and I feel like a dick but the proposed scout move goes right towards the enemy and a BEF brigade will just instagib you and I feel that you are more useful to the Corps holding down our current, slightly defensible line.
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steinrokkan posted:He's been sucked into the game board to learn some sort of moral lesson ala a 90s comedy.  Geena Davis as the love interest, Bill Murray as Trin, Bob Goldthwait as Haig. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Apr 13, 2017 |
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