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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
| Total: | 510 votes | ||
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You know, I watched some news show on BBC One with a panel talking about stuff and there were stupid tories, some racist gently caress UKIP thing, and Peter Coates, who actually sounded very reasonable. I don't know if it was because the rest of the people surrounding him were horrible human beings but considering that kind of people is currently the majority power, I wouldn't mind him becoming PM thanks to some ancient imperial football law or something. But to be fair, these days "sounding reasonable" amounts to something like "hey guys I know I'm reaching here but maybe murdering all the poors is bad???"
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Mar 1, 2017 01:05
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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/feb/28/tory-1bn-inheritance-tax-cut-will-worsen-north-south-divide Let's start on a good note here with an inheritance tax cut which will clearly help fund the struggling NHS and expand infrastructure investment.
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Mar 1, 2017 01:26
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Retarded Goatee posted:Did the UK turn into a backdrop for the new Mad Max movie or do I have to give the neolibs more time? Wait ~3 years, until all the protections afforded by the EU vaporize and the UK becomes equivalent to China in workers' rights and social policies, but without its massive industry base. I don't think it's going to be Mad Max, I'm thinking more banana republic but without bananas and with shittier weather.
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Mar 1, 2017 08:24
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Percipient Badger posted:Not watched it. Don't really feel the need to. However since you said that I've had a gander on YouTube, it's been uploaded there. Had to close it as the comment section (not the best cross section of society I know) made me turn a bit red. To quote a snippet "Some of the prison guards are letting the drugs in and making a load of money while the Government turn a blind eye". Indicative of a lot of comments on public forums with regards to the situation. The internet is the worst place. Wait, isn't that actually the case? I'm not saying every prison guard smuggles drugs, but certainly a small minority of them do indeed turn a blind eye. Or am I missing something here?
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Mar 1, 2017 08:41
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Baron Corbyn posted:E: it might actually be attention that Farage wants. fixed
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Mar 1, 2017 08:54
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baka kaba posted:It's not really the issue is it? It's the tabloid mentality of deflecting onto a scapegoat, like when serious welfare problems are shouted down with TEN-CHILDREN FAMILY GETS MANSION or DISABILITY CHEAT'S SECRET CIRCUS ACT Ah, yes, of course you are right about that. I forgot for a second what the wonderful press is like. There's a lot of horrible poo poo happening and somehow I can see the Daily Mail article: "A PRISONER is living better* than YOU!" *(actually we just made this up)
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Mar 1, 2017 09:43
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feedmegin posted:Are you advocating a form of socialism based on nativism? Sort of a 'national' socialism? Would it have camps? "Labour will set you free".
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Mar 1, 2017 15:41
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Peers voting on EU citizen rights amendment. Some demonstration that I'm not a bargaining chip would be nice, IMO
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Mar 1, 2017 17:34
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TinTower posted:EU nationals amendment passes 358-256. Finally some loving hope, no matter how small and fragile
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Mar 1, 2017 20:02
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"Unelected peers" is a bit hypocritical when the PM was not, uh, actually elected, and neither were Farage and Johnson and pretty much all the ministers. Also lol because if the Queen agreed with Brexit you bet your rear end they wouldn't call her "unelected queen".
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Mar 1, 2017 21:44
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jBrereton posted:ok what can we do with this information Not much, people only earn that much through capital gains and that means they have lots of wealth around, which means they have good accountants, which means their tax paying is optimised as gently caress and they most likely abuse lots of loopholes. So you don't get much info out of the actual tax returns.
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Mar 2, 2017 01:03
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I still find it a bit hard to adapt to the absurdly high levels of trust associated with deliveries here in the UK. Leaving stuff with the building manager is fine, but completely random neighbours? That just seems weird on so many levels. I mean don't get me wrong, it's absolutely awesome that I can order something and usually find it next to my flat door because the building manager received it and put it there and no one stole it, it's like a miracle. I'm still not ordering anything worth over £100 because let's not tempt fate.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:21
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I have no idea what the gently caress is happening with that house, but during the day things seem pretty normal and friendly and regular, then when the sun goes down everything just gets weird as described, so I think I'll put a pin in this until tomorrow. One of the household members might work during the day and might be an abusive alcoholic, but then again I'm 100% pulling this out of my rear end.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:40
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TinTower posted:Ginger Joe and Little Kev now have a Tory councillor. Man if I ever get mugged in the UK I'm so gonna have a laugh attack, these guys just look so loving harmless and sound so funny
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Mar 3, 2017 00:47
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I think the demographic that practices the jewish religion is too diverse to make any sort of judgement like that - they have the same proportion of idiots as the rest of the population
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Mar 3, 2017 00:57
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Breath Ray posted:I think the corns did the right thing and they will end up getting the money in some form or another. It's not real until 2019 so some high spirited brinkmanship is inevitable itpo Yeah I'm sure the Tory government which is so keen on reducing funding and privatising and says people on benefits are subhuman will start paying a lot of subsiahahahahahahahaha I agree though, the real poo poo is not gonna drop until 2019.
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Mar 3, 2017 20:48
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Forget about all this political bullshit, freddos are 30p now.
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Mar 3, 2017 21:58
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OwlFancier posted:For some reason my increasingly Yorkshire accent gets me American/Canadian too. I have no idea how this would happen - Yorkshire accent to my forrin ears is basically scottish-lite. It's definitely nowhere even close to any USA accent.
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Mar 5, 2017 00:51
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Regarde Aduck posted:I guess the accelerationists win in the end? Because there's no way any prior Tory plans for BRITANE survive this scenario. Everyone is hosed. Some will be able to bear it better of course, but no one will be able to have any long term plans. If it really is as bad as everyone in this thread says it will be then the Tories are hosed. Either by people finally getting fed up with their poo poo (good result) or their base fracturing into ever more fascist splinters (bad result). That and the Union is finished. Nah, Tories are not hosed, probably just delayed. May I direct your attention to Argentina: neoliberalism literally destroys country, then 15 years later, country votes for neoliberalism again. Even some members of my family wanted to vote for the neoliberal candidate and I was like "guys guys, wait, don't you remember the hell we all went through thanks to those policies? are you loving with me?" People are really, really loving stupid and vote emotionally.
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Mar 5, 2017 17:03
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Jesus Christ people, that's still by far the closest I've seen a politician come to a real, clean tax return. I mean I've seen politicians declare huge mansions with helipads on them for $1 value and nothing happen, in comparison this dude forgetting to declare £35k is a breath of fresh air.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:52
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Namtab posted:He's a pensioner, mp pension probably. I agree it was stupid to gently caress it up. I still think the mistake is being unnecessarily demonised. It wasn't "oops forgot to put in all my £10 million+ of real estate in prime London held through offshore companies in my return, teehee" like it would be with most tories that are criticising this
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Mar 6, 2017 00:10
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Namtab posted:£37k is still a lot of money from my end of the scale, it's a big deal. Corbyn Bad. Tories Worse.
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Mar 6, 2017 00:18
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I swear this thread has the weirdest derails. To bring it back to righteous britishness, let me just say I'm gonna have some sticky toffee pudding tonight. I still think you guys should replace all instances of salted caramel with dulce de leche, but sticky toffee pudding is quite nice.
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Mar 6, 2017 21:11
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I'm not even gonna take the test, I'm Bakunin as gently caress (except for his anti-semitism) EDIT: yeah as predicted I'm on the extreme bottom-left corner Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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Mar 6, 2017 21:13
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Yay for grammar schools and Victorian standards of education! At this rate I fully expect to see May making child labour legal again in ~2 years, those were the good old times, right? Gotta make Bretane competitive again.
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Mar 6, 2017 23:35
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Just go to a Boots and grab some of those chesty cough syrups that coat your throat or something, and some throat numbing lozenges. Do the lozenge first, then the syrup. I'm not a doctor though, it just works for me.
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Mar 7, 2017 00:58
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Just loving lol at Corbyn being called "left wing extremist" by anyone. The media and people in general seem to have no loving idea of what left wing politics even are.
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Mar 7, 2017 11:39
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It's amazing how everywhere in the world, you can see a lot of people hating on social benefits programs. Hatred of the poors brings the poors together, apparently.
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Mar 7, 2017 12:44
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Looke posted:someonen suggest a good anime plks BoJo's Bizarre Adventure Fisting the Northern Goodbye to the NHS Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Mar 7, 2017 13:38
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Pissflaps posted:Some good news for once. The UK is the third best country in the world. The "criteria" (more like lack of such) is such enormous bullshit that I don't even know where to begin. Looking at some more reasonable indexes like Gini and WTBB and such it's pretty clear that places like Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, and Germany score higher on all counts. Switzerland is not out of place near the top of the list though. The UK remains a very nice place to live, but saying it's #3 is bullshit.
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Mar 7, 2017 14:00
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Please explain how saying "you're not #1 best place to live in forever" is being rude. You guys -do- know how lowly I rate my own birthplace, right? I mean, I'm saying that the UK is among the top 10 places to live in, in the entire world. Do you guys even get how much of a compliment that is? Also you do get that you don't actually own the country, and can't decide on your own who can complain and who can't about stuff in it without getting labelled as an ungrateful little immigrant who doesn't know their place, right? Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Mar 7, 2017 15:30
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Corbyn strikes me as the type that likes Hayao Miyazaki's stuff Either that or Hellsing because he's used to seeing british undead ghouls
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Mar 7, 2017 17:42
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Evil evil EU, turning a bunch of disparate broken states into the most prosperous (for the average inhabitant) region on Earth through unprecedented cooperation and colluding into the most powerful trading block ever. How dare it.
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Mar 7, 2017 18:45
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Every time some idiot right-winger talks about "the marxist agenda" or other flavours of secret left-wing agendas I strongly wish they were an actual real thing because it would mean a powerful secret left-wing organization was controlling everything from the shadows, intent on... making things better? I prefer secret socialist Illuminati to just collective stupid greed.
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Mar 8, 2017 00:40
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This budget is so hilarious and sad. "It was unfair that permanent employees were paying more NI than the self-employed" You don't say... maybe... just maybe... it's unfair that the poor pay more than the rich??? Oh wait, no, wouldn't do to anger the donors, nevermind.
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Mar 8, 2017 15:21
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LemonDrizzle posted:The NI changes are actually progressive - they reduce the burden on self-employed workers earning <£50k while increasing it on those earning more. Since they also do bring different employment types closer to parity in terms of taxation, I'm really not seeing any good reason to object to them. Like, yes, it sucks if you were self-employed and are losing some of your favourable tax treatment but you're still getting a better deal than regular employees, so... I didn't read that - reporting on the actual budget's effects seems to be terrible. I was commenting on the quoted comment though. I guess it's fine as long as it's progressive. I still think large accumulations of wealth and high incomes should be taxed more aggressively. I'm happy to pay more myself if it means they tax capital gains on the order of my income as if it was income. EDIT: 
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Mar 8, 2017 15:54
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Pissflaps posted:I'll have to take your word for this as you haven't provided a link to the report. It's not like it's on wikipedia or anything https://aliceperry.wordpress.com/2017/01/26/labour-nec-report-january-2017/
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Mar 8, 2017 16:24
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Fangz posted:Toryprojections.png No reason to stick to silly stuff like "facts" and "reality" when you see someone like Trump outright lie about every single thing saying everything will be great and awesome and people eating all of it. "Haha yeah, so, I know I'm building this 60 billion pound warchest for Brexit but it doesn't mean we'll actually need it haha, also I'll raise taxes on the poor to finance it, thanks bye."
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Mar 8, 2017 16:42
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Pissflaps posted:A clear break of a simple manifesto commitment? The opposition must be having a field day with this. Giving the Tories a good shoeing. It's not a break of a commitment, it's just an alternative fulfillment.
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Mar 8, 2017 16:49
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OwlFancier posted:Can I get a job in statistics if I learn to draw 45 degree lines on the end of graphs of actual data? Tories should hire Bitcoin "analysts". The UK economy is going up uP UP!!
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Mar 8, 2017 16:59
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