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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
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Jose posted:is there any particular reason farage is starting a fight against carswell? He thinks Carswell isn't trying hard enough to get him knighted. Seriously. Like there's more to the animosity than that, but that's why they're fighting right now. E: it might actually be a peerage that Farage wants. GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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DesperateDan posted:Plenty of rumour that carswell is looking at re-defecting (double defecting? un-defecting? refecting?) back to the tories at the moment, but that would serve fartrage better than him, surely? I think Carswell is relatively popular on a local level and would retain the seat, especially given the general swing away from UKIP to the Tories as they move further right. Trump's state visit has been postponed by the way.
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Mar 1, 2017 11:26
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Dennis Skinner is older than Ken Clarke. Ken Clarke is father of the house because he's the longest serving MP. (Technically speaking, Clarke, Skinner and Kaufman all won their seats in the 1970 election but Kaufman was sworn in before Clarke who was sworn in before Skinner)
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Mar 1, 2017 13:50
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Any Countdown fans here devastated by Ricky Tomlinson's allegations that Richard Whitely worked for MI5 to undermine union activity?
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Mar 1, 2017 14:39
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spiderbot posted:Will brexit affect the likelihood of another Lib Dem- Tory coalition? I can't see people who switched from Labour to Lib Dem over brexit being particularly happy about it. The Lib Dems throwing away everything they stand for and alienating their voter base? No way would they do that.
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Mar 1, 2017 16:39
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TinTower posted:Isn't this something that Philip Davies said about five years ago? his reasoning was more along the lines of disabled being worth less rather than too stupid to understand the concept of money. I honestly don't know which is worse.
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Mar 2, 2017 12:02
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Miftan posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39140434/freddo-chocolate-bar-price-increases-to-30p-causing-outrage-online Idea for the Corbyn relaunch: "Make Freddos 10p Again"
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Mar 3, 2017 09:17
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JFairfax posted:they're going to have an independence referendum Trying to read more about this lead me to discover that in 2007, the Cornish National Liberation Army threatened to blow up Jamie Oliver's restaurant as they thought it represented an English influx into Cornwall.
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Mar 3, 2017 14:49
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The Cornish National Liberation Army also placed broken glass under the sand at Cornish beaches to "deter tourists"
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Mar 3, 2017 14:52
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The Cornish National Liberation Army also threatened to desecrate any English flag they found in Cornwall and told the media they had financial backing from American donors and military training from the mighty Free Wales Army and they boasted over 30 members. And btw I'm not actually making any of this up, but I can't speak for how accurate the Wikipedia article for Cornish Nationalism is.
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Mar 3, 2017 14:58
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TinTower posted:
who is this/what show?
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Mar 5, 2017 13:58
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/838330022444294144 Not with Gorgeous George, a John McTernan certified winner, on the prowl.
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Mar 6, 2017 13:45
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You don't need to be a super smart politics man or even a science man to see that Corbyn has good politics but is a disaster of a leader. I don't see how anyone can find what Hawking said disagreeable, especially since that's been the general consensus here for a while. The problem is finding someone with both good politics and the leadership skills to overcome the lovely situation Labour is in, since most of the PLP have neither. And yes, the media are obviously massively against Corbyn, but any Labour leader to the left of David Cameron is going to face that in this day and age, and unless you're planning on completely abandoning the democratic route to socialism, then we need to go d a leader who can deal with that effectively. I don't think it's impossible. Look at Bernie Sanders, the guy consistently beat his right wing adversaries in the opinion polls in a country far more averse to socialism than ours, which as Pissflaps likes to point out is something Corbyn has failed to do. Too bad his party went with a candidate that everyone knew was unpopular with voters. Labour should do the same imho.
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Mar 7, 2017 14:47
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JFairfax posted:Corbyn actually did better than Sanders i.e. he WON the Leadership contest. well yeah, part of my point is that the party membership don't always make the best choices. Though to be fair, you can also look back at the US elections and see a path to a Sanders victory based on where it was lost. No one could say in good faith they believe Burnham, Cooper or Kendall would be beating May in the polls as things stand.
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Mar 8, 2017 02:57
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You can pay the £1/month fee if you're under 27. e: I just double checked this and they've put up all the fees by £1. The standard rate is £4, £3 if you're a student, and £2 if you're under 27, retired, unemployed, work less than 16 hours a week or a trade union member e2: The £3 rate is per year, not per month and also applies to the armed forces. GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 15:14
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Pissflaps posted:Why is that a shafting for Wales isn't it slightly more per head than Scotland? It's a joke about leaving the 'm' off so it looks like we're only getting £200.
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Mar 8, 2017 15:42
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Yeah, one of Osbourne's tactics was to build up to something incredibly lovely in the budget so that when they u-turned on it, people would be happy about that instead of mad at the bad poo poo. He usually had the good sense to do the u-turn before the budget so it'd get a good reaction for not doing the bad thing we thought he would.
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Mar 9, 2017 13:44
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Pissflaps posted:Didn't Tony turn to Rome after he stood down? officially, yes, but it was an open secret beforehand. He just kept denying it in the press because despite it being 2005-2007 when it was all over the press, it was still a controversial thing somehow.
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Mar 10, 2017 12:33
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Lightning Lord posted:As an outsider I have a question - are there any "sane Tories", or like the sane Republicans in America, were they chased out of politics/into Labour? Most Tories aren't as ridiculously socially conservative as the kind of chucklefucks you have in the Republican Party. They do have a socially liberal wing that would probably fit in with the more fiscally conservative Democrats. More relevant right now would be the more anti Brexit Tories like Ken Clarke and Anna Spivey. And as far as I'm aware, only Shaun Woodward made the jump to Labour and that was way back when the Tories were still opposed to the repeal of section 28. Bercow was rumoured to before being elected speaker though. GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Mar 11, 2017 11:33
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spectralent posted:Be ready to start diplomatically phrasing "I told you so", among everything else. This advice is predicated on the idea that Leave voters will accept that their Brexit vote is the reason why everything is going to poo poo and not your Remoaner arse talking Britain down.
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Mar 11, 2017 18:26
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Pissflaps posted:Ive said this before but I'd be happy if there was never another referendum in the U.K. on any question ever again. What was the Clement Attlee quote about referendums again?
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Mar 11, 2017 18:40
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Pissflaps posted:At least my impotent winnings on a dead comedy forum won't actively make Labour worse. Your tweets could be responsible for the break up of the union though. Did you ever think about that?
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Mar 14, 2017 17:34
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TinTower posted:The only poll out for the 2020 presidential has Generic Dem winning by eight percent… and Warren losing by seven. Generic X vs an actual candidate polls are bullshit though cos that generic X could be all things to all people.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:20
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Fangz posted:Yes. The point is that there isn't really any US polling that is comparable to UK voting intention polling. true but opinion polling have them at a net favorability of around -15, which isn't as bad as Corbyn but still somehow worse than Trump, which is insane. Favorability polls have done well at predicting the results of elections where voter intention has failed (see Ed Miliband) but it's early days yet.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:40
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War criminal Alexander Blackman who admitted to committing a war crime on tape has had his murder conviction overturned and his sentence for manslaughter commuted lmao.
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Mar 15, 2017 12:29
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Lord of the Llamas posted:She's too left wing for the Labour right and she hitched her wagon to Owen Smith in a big way in the coup and so there's some serious bad blood between her and the Labour left. Isn't there a poster here who's one of her constituents and said she's not interested in sticking her head above the parapet after the poo poo she got for resigning from the shadow cabinet?
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Mar 15, 2017 18:25
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I thought they were more socialist than the Blairites but socially conservative and anti-immigrant?
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Mar 15, 2017 18:32
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/842348545340542978 This is far from the worst poll we've seen since May took over. What warrants the "holy gently caress"? UKIP collapsing within reach of the Greens?
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Mar 16, 2017 13:21
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I think the most worrying thing about that poll is that UKIP's collapse doesn't seem to be benefiting Labour all that much. People seem to have gone Labour > UKIP > Tories.
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Mar 16, 2017 13:27
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lmao what the hell. Is that 43% of people saying they'd be okay with pretending to be gay at work? What?
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Mar 18, 2017 09:13
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Jose posted:Young liberals do suk it's true as opposed to other kinds of liberals?
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Mar 18, 2017 14:23
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Dead ones are good, apparently. I suppose the younger they are, the further they are from good. Question withdrawn. Dead Goon posted:We lease the Trident missiles - would you continue to pay the lease on something you had no intention of using and even then, had no way of using anyway (seeing as you have scrapped the launch system)? we already have no intention of using them though.
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Mar 18, 2017 14:45
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JosephWongKS posted:Who would be a better Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn or Baron Corbin? and which one would have a better Wrestlemania match? Maybe we can convince them to switch?
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Mar 19, 2017 11:59
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LemonDrizzle posted:if you're going to post results from that yougov poll you shouldn't miss out this one 5% of Corbyn voters say Big Tone was their favourite Labour leader?
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Mar 19, 2017 13:38
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I had a taxi driver enthusiastically talk at me about Brexit last night. My Chinese isn't great so I didn't get some of the finer points but his main point was "why do British people think Britain is special when it's only the third best country in Europe?"
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Mar 20, 2017 05:25
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Mar 20, 2017 11:24
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Pochoclo posted:Isn't this mostly because unions have been on decline thanks to the efforts of neoliberalism? the Labour membership figures don't include members of affiliate unions. 11/3/1931: Rupert Murdoch crawls out of the depths of Hell. GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 09:09
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Pissflaps posted:Looks like that NICs farce has had an effect on Tory support with them dropping a whole 3 points in this poll for context, YouGov polls are the ones that had Labour neck and neck with/sometimes ahead of the Tories earlier in Corbyn's tenure.
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Mar 22, 2017 11:28
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jBrereton posted:Reminder here that Wales brexited harder than anyone 53.3% of the English voted to leave. 52.5% of Wales voted to leave. WeAreTheRomans posted:This is obviously never going to be a thing for many reasons, but I can't see Irish or Scots ever wanting anything to do with the Welsh 
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WeAreTheRomans posted:It's nothing personal, but Wales is to being a country as the Lib Dems are to being a political party. This is the most insulting thing anyone has ever said about my people or perhaps any people ever.
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