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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
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20 | 3.92% |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
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hakimashou posted:Maybe the lack of any far left wing governments in our lifetimes in Britain and the abysmal performance in polls of Corbynismo just go to prove it's unpopular and not what British people want. This is most likely true. But that just means these people should be reeducated. The German people were also wrong when they supported the Nazis. The majority can, and often is, wrong about things. I don't think it's arrogant to suggest an ideology that leads to war and environmental disaster should be prevented at all costs. Including force.
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Mar 1, 2017 16:20
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Looke posted:doesn't their leader want to privatise the NHS as well..? Yeah UKIP used to be openly pro-privatisation. When they realised that they really had a chance at power they buried some of their less popular policies and this was one of them. If they ever get into power expect them to revert and immediately dismantle the NHS. It's an obvious trojan horse for them. UKIP was born as the party for well off Tories who wanted to shift even further right. It's rebirth as party of the working class is recent and essentially a facade. They are far right libertarians and as far away from worker friendly as you can get.
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Mar 1, 2017 22:15
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Spangly A posted:I like Dianne Abbot but holy poo poo that'd be a bad idea That she's seen as 'angry black women' isn't the problem. Well it is for some but I think the main issue is she seems like a terrible speaker. The few times I've seen her in a debate she gets verbally dominated.
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Mar 2, 2017 17:24
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Pissflaps posted:I'm saying they may not have found Shami Chakrabarti's report very convincing. So they voted for the people who are more likely to be overtly anti-Semitic? Rather than the secret anti-Semites?
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Mar 3, 2017 01:57
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LemonDrizzle posted:May says "come and 'ave a go if ya think yer 'ard enough" to Sturgeon: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/03/theresa-may-lays-down-independence-vote-challenge-to-sturgeon Everything she says is always some variation of "Put up and shut up". She never compromises over everything and then follows up with speeches of "coming together" and "national spirit". She takes and never gives and then demands everyone be happy about it. She is such a loving piece of poo poo. Shocking I know. Treat me like the pleb that I am. I understand that. I have no power, she does. But don't act like I should like it. Like it's my duty to be happy that Brexit means Brexit and no, we definitely can't amend it even a little bit because of reasons. Stop the lovely circus. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Mar 3, 2017 14:39
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Breath Ray posted:Yeah but what about May Oh you card
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Mar 3, 2017 14:43
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Pesky Splinter posted:I believe they are terming it "Nuclear Brexit". I guess the accelerationists win in the end? Because there's no way any prior Tory plans for BRITANE survive this scenario. Everyone is hosed. Some will be able to bear it better of course, but no one will be able to have any long term plans. If it really is as bad as everyone in this thread says it will be then the Tories are hosed. Either by people finally getting fed up with their poo poo (good result) or their base fracturing into ever more fascist splinters (bad result). That and the Union is finished. Pissflaps posted:Tony blairs speech. Of course it was. It's a poll. Polls don't lie. Eat the poll you hungry piece of poo poo. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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Mar 5, 2017 16:56
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Spangly A posted:Who said it: Jeremy Corbyn or Enver Hoxha? This is horrible. They go on an on about how awful Hoxha was and how terrible it is that Corbyn is so close to him in views. Then the questions are all really mundane stuff that anyone with empathy would agree with. That America was founded on the bodies of native Americans is not controversial. A party being founded on the basis of worker rights is not controversial. Combating imperialism is not controversial. Absolutely none of the quotes are anything "dodgy" involving murder or oppression. They might as well have run a story just going "leftists are all the same and are all huge stalins! *FARTS*".
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Mar 6, 2017 14:51
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OwlFancier posted:I would imagine that there are quite a few people reading the telegraph who would definitely dispute that killing native americans was bad and that any organization nowadays may be held responsible for it, that workers rights are a good thing, and that imperialism is even a concept. Yeah but they used to know these views were lovely. Shy Torism and all that. I guess those days are well over and we can proudly explaim "I'm glad all those lovely native Americans died because they were all cucking fucks!!!!!".
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Mar 6, 2017 17:29
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Jakka jan
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Mar 6, 2017 18:52
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I've been watching anime for about 15 years and I've managed to avoid weirdo porn poo poo and tentacle rape of any kind. You do have to go looking for that stuff.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:59
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Seaside Loafer posted:First one I ever saw was the most tentacle rapey one I think ive ever seen. It was lets see ... 22 years ago and they randomly started letting the hard 18 rated anime films in computer game shops for some reason, so it had the famous motorbike one with Kaneda and Tetsuo but it also had this. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108461/ . That's like 2 of hours demons raping young looking girls. That was a bit of an eye opener and no mistake. There's horrible poo poo on film. With real people. I've managed to not see any of that either. Like I get it, there are lots of lovely animes out there. It doesn't stop One punch man being the best brainless fun of last year, or stop LOGH from being the best sci fi epic ever told in visual media. Everyone agrees generalisation is bad. Until we get to anime in which case it's fine and if you watched Trigun you should be put on a watchlist.
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Mar 6, 2017 22:36
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Looke posted:someonen suggest a good anime plks One punch man Mob Psycho 100 Jojo's bizarre adventure Gundam: The origin That's about it for me this season.
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Mar 7, 2017 13:52
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They come here for the tolerant friendly people, the cheap housing and the bountiful job market.
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Mar 7, 2017 14:19
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Miftan posted:I mean, Hawking knows best about every subject because he's the smartest man alive, so let's just make him God Emperor of the world? He was once. I'd rather listen to Roger Penrose or Kip Thorne now. Hawkings lost the last 5 science bets he's placed.
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Mar 7, 2017 17:46
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He'll be writing 5000 word polemics about why the EM-drive could never work and how we're never leaving this planet and how truly awe inspiring it is that we're all going to live meaningless lives in a universe destined for heat death before you know it.
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Mar 7, 2017 17:51
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Person who likes science before becoming scientist: Science is about possibilities and expanding human knowledge!!!!!!! Person who is now a scientist: Science is about what we can't do. Everything exciting breaks a law of physics. Hope is a lie.
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Mar 7, 2017 17:53
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Namtab posted:All of the anime recs are bad. What are you into, what have you seen thus far, what are you looking for, kill la kill is garbage Do not anime shame unless someone tells you to watch Naruto.
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Mar 8, 2017 00:07
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Paxman posted:I like Ghost in the Shell (Standalone and Arise and even Innocence) and Ergo Proxy, but not schoolgirls, rape or people who turn into monsters for no apparent reason. What do I watch? Psycho-pass. That was an easy one.
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Mar 8, 2017 02:36
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"£250m in funding for Scottish Government, £200 for Welsh Government and £120m for Northern Ireland Executive" OMG they've really shafted wales this time.
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Mar 8, 2017 15:38
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Sorry. I now feel it wasn't worth it.
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Mar 8, 2017 15:44
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Gorn Myson posted:Shes asking for anime and manga to be banned, so I wouldn't say shes stupid at all. Hot take.
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Mar 8, 2017 21:40
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Living in no where Wales I laugh at your "coffee shops". When I need refreshment I strain the blood out of a sea otter.
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Mar 8, 2017 21:48
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namesake posted:I think this means you either live in an English or REALLY crappy part of Wales: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Italians I live in North Wales. I wouldn't describe it as "crappy". But it is sparsely populated. Welsh Italalins or not when you live in the sticks there isn't going to be a coffee shop. If I really really needed a coffee I could get on a bus. I'll stick to sea otter. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 22:29
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Pissflaps posted:It's not odd. It's waffly, unfocused bullshit that ignores the single newsworthy point that the Tories broke a manifesto pledge. Corbyn is poo poo. You're just saying everything he does is "poo poo" now. You've abandoned the tiny bit of truth that makes a good troll. You're just being a dick now.
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Mar 9, 2017 02:37
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I don't like how the right wing media not wanting Corbyn in power is now a "conspiracy theory".
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Mar 9, 2017 22:48
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Breath Ray posted:I find the concept of resident trolls problematic. Is plurality so unwelcome? Baseless contrarianism and a plurality of opinion are different concepts. At least you don't get weirdly aggressive like Pissflaps. It stops being funny.
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Mar 10, 2017 18:07
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Racism and a misguided sense of rebellion that only served to hurt themselves and made the elite do a sensible chuckle. Remember when the Welsh valleys said "enough!" And voted to end all the money given to Wales by the EU? Righteous.
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Mar 11, 2017 12:53
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That sounds really scary to those of us unlikely to be able to leave. I don't see anywhere in Europe as particularly enticing and while I have a degree it's not STEM or in demand so the chances of getting a job or being head hunted is low-impossible. Am I going to die? If the best course of action is to literally flee if you can what the gently caress is going to happen to us that can't? You're giving me a panic attack.
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Mar 11, 2017 19:36
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Yeah I don't understand how you move without getting headhunted. I probably could get some job but i'm not valuable enough to get head hunted so I have no idea how to get the foot in the door.
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Mar 11, 2017 22:00
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Seaside Loafer posted:In my personal experience of being depressed and drinking to much I found people with the best of intentions trying to talk me out of it even more annoying than the source of the depression thus doubling up the situation. You could try just shutting the gently caress up and leaving her alone to work it out but obviously I know nothing about the situation and if she is regularly threatening to top her self then its a bit more serious. Depends on the level of depression. At its worst the person is going to feel detached and listless. There's probably some chronic pain that only comes on when the depression is at its worst. Leaving such a person to stew in their own thoughts is not a good idea. If directly referring to her depression is annoying to her then try to talk around it? Mindfullness is very important. This is being aware of your mood changes and attempting to mitigate the worst of their effects. I will say that stopping her drinking is extremely important. People with depression often try to self medicate and it always ends up worse. Be annoying if you have to, she needs to get off the booze. Easier said than done I know. There's another person with self agency involved. It always fucks up the best laid plans.
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Mar 12, 2017 16:12
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Breath Ray posted:I don't think you've quite got the hang of this your face
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Mar 12, 2017 22:18
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Certainly outside of things you should mockingly bring up.
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Mar 13, 2017 00:20
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The system doesn't work against someone like May. Unelected and on a power trip. Let's not forget that. The person in charge of the most important political upheaval in recent UK history is unelected.
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Mar 14, 2017 03:47
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learnincurve posted:It makes it harder to argue for Brexit if one of the main remain arguments was that if we voted yes then we would all wake up in the morning to economic collapse. Sugar tax will make more of a difference to the poor than the impact the yes vote had. No one should be trading with Russia.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:19
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I live in North Wales and because I can read I noticed how much the EU gives to Wales so I voted remain. Stay in school kids.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:28
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ThomasPaine posted:Yes I'm not saying garbage pizzas are bad necessarily. Dominoes probably takes it as far as they go though. I used to like Papa Johns since his face is on everything and I now know he is the absolute worst bourgie poo poo I lost my taste for them. I'm the opposite. I don't know why you want me to see your grubby unpresentable face but you're certainly not seeing mine. Yes you look ridiculous and any other conclusion is due to the Dunning-Kruger effect. Humanity is absurd. Social media is absurd.
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Mar 14, 2017 20:18
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You say this is a collapse of the centre left. I say humanity is just entering a new era of being really terrible to each other. Buckle up.
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Mar 15, 2017 21:27
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Pissflaps posted:That's what happens when there is no functioning opposition. No. this is what happens when people like what the government is doing. They have no need or desire for an opposition. If they were pissed off they could put a vote in for the mysterious 'other' or none of the above. No one planned for this scenario. The scenario of 'what happens if a population votes against its interests and shows no sign of stopping?' we now know. The survivors form circular firing squads and engage in increasingly banal arguements while the country collapses. This idea that Labour could be doing well is so naive. They could have the best leader in the world and it wouldn't matter. There is no demand for traditional Labour ideals. Leftist or centrist. The poor were told by the Tories and ukip that all their ills were because of immigrants and other poor people. And it worked. The damage is done. A generation of working class are now hardcore Tory base. These people aren't staying away from Labour because of Corbyn, they're staying away because anything left of centre-right is wish washy loonyleft that broke are britane. Corbyn isn't helping matters I agree, but he wasn't the one that poisoned the well. That was done over time by an adept Tory disinformation campaign. Now Labour are associated with 'lazy shirkers' And 'letting immigrants have all the jobs' and 'giving mansions to polish people so they can send the mansion to Poland brick by brick it's outrageous'. None of this goes away if Corbyn goes. In the current political climate the only way a new Labour leader could increase their polling is by apeing the Conservatives. This seems to be where most of the disagreement lies. I assume that pissflaps et al do have ideas for what Labour should do once propelled to power on the back of a Tory-lite manifesto? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and also assume you want them to do a u-turn on the odious policies they had to adopt in order to get into power. The alternative, you see, would mean you're basically a closet Tory and should gently caress right off.
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Mar 16, 2017 15:01
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Mogg is going to be rude to Eagle and she will cry. SNP bot and tiny face will argue in a way that means each side avoids answering the issues of the other. Music plays and the audience leaves to go beat up gypsie.
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