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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition?
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Jeremy Corbyn 95 18.63%
Dennis Skinner 53 10.39%
Angus Robertson 20 3.92%
Tim Farron 9 1.76%
Paul Ukips 7 1.37%
Robot Lenin 105 20.59%
Tony Blair 28 5.49%
Pissflaps 193 37.84%
Total: 510 votes
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TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

jabby posted:

Do you really want to be in the same bucket as the Express?

Jeremy's totally fine to do so over Brexit.

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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

What we need is the principles of the lib dems.



Once they find some

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

TinTower posted:

Jeremy's totally fine to do so over Brexit.

Are you really saying you can't tell the difference between a policy position and an outright lie?

Oh wait.

:clegg:

Nevermind.

Paxman
Feb 7, 2010

Skinty McEdger posted:

May's argument that she couldn't possibly allow the commons or Lords a veto on the terms of Brexit, because this may give the EU incentive to give the UK a bad deal, begs the question: then what the gently caress will the vote she promised at the end of the negotiations actually gong to be about?

A choice between a) accepting whatever she's managed to agree or b) just leaving without whatever she's agreed, ie WTO rules which aren't really in anyone's interests . So really no choice at all, because any MP who refuses to vote for the deal in this context would look like a prat.

She's trying to avoid giving Parliament any real choices, eg "keep on negotiating and don't leave until we get a better deal" or "hold a referendum on the deal"

escapegoat
Aug 18, 2013

Namtab posted:

Corbyn is NOT ecchi.

Corbyn is tsundere.

"Baka Brexit, it's not like I like you or anything!"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Fangz posted:

"Do [incredibly difficult thing first] before we even discuss [thing that we came to talk about]" is a terribly obnoxious argument.
Not as obnoxious as "ban [x] because I don't like it and have decided it's the cause of a problem" as arguments go though. Especially when there is no good evidence that the thing in question causes said issues.

If you're not allowed to talk about the actual causes of a problem when someone is blaming things on immigration or massive loving televisions or meow meow or whatever the panic du jour is (apparently cartoon children in that guy's case) just because the actual causes are complex or hard to implement in the current climate then you effectively cede the debate. Then you end up with stuff like the Overton window in the gutter press being "is the NHS hosed because of immigrants or fat people?" because getting Tories to fund things is hard.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Namtab posted:

Only 15 years?

I agree, only 15 years in prison for watching anime is far too lenient.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

Guavanaut posted:

Not as obnoxious as "ban [x] because I don't like it and have decided it's the cause of a problem" as arguments go though. Especially when there is no good evidence that the thing in question causes said issues.

If you're not allowed to talk about the actual causes of a problem when someone is blaming things on immigration or massive loving televisions or meow meow or whatever the panic du jour is (apparently cartoon children in that guy's case) just because the actual causes are complex or hard to implement in the current climate then you effectively cede the debate. Then you end up with stuff like the Overton window in the gutter press being "is the NHS hosed because of immigrants or fat people?" because getting Tories to fund things is hard.

Yeah but I imagine when you're a British journalist in Japan to have an interview with a creator about anime culture the point is not for you to lay out an overall strategy to Fix Society and fully justify British values, it's to ask questions that tease out those cultural differences between Japan and the UK. "But but poverty" is just a transparent dodge.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

As I said, there's evidence that its used in grooming.

Defending it is not a hill any of us should choose to die on

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Regarde Aduck posted:

I've been watching anime for about 15 years and I've managed to avoid weirdo porn poo poo and tentacle rape of any kind. You do have to go looking for that stuff.
First one I ever saw was the most tentacle rapey one I think ive ever seen. It was lets see ... 22 years ago and they randomly started letting the hard 18 rated anime films in computer game shops for some reason, so it had the famous motorbike one with Kaneda and Tetsuo but it also had this. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108461/ . That's like 2 of hours demons raping young looking girls. That was a bit of an eye opener and no mistake.

I've considered anime as an art form objectively over the years and tbh it does seem to have a tiny bit of raping and young girls and stuff. Just saying.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I think a hd re-release of that got kickstarted or crowdfunded or something

E: it was the manga

Namtab fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Mar 6, 2017

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

I'll give it a miss.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Reviews gave it a five tentacles up.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

quote:

Goofs
While the demon has the nurse in his possession he soon shoves both her hands into the wall of the hospital room they are in. This is practically impossible as the wall was lined with thick tile resting over an even thicker amount of drywall, meaning that her hands would not have penetrate the wall in the slightest.

Thanks imdb

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Namtab posted:

Thanks imdb

If anime teaches us anything it's that the penetration doesn't have to be realistic.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



My parents had a big poster of Urutsukidoji up on the living room door.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

jabby posted:

If anime teaches us anything it's that the penetration doesn't have to be realistic.

Lol

Mister Adequate posted:

My parents had a big poster of Urutsukidoji up on the living room door.

Epic


How's the evening not-anime politics?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
I swear this thread has the weirdest derails.

To bring it back to righteous britishness, let me just say I'm gonna have some sticky toffee pudding tonight. I still think you guys should replace all instances of salted caramel with dulce de leche, but sticky toffee pudding is quite nice.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Moving away from anime (as rapidly as possible), here's a fun take on the ol' Political Compass, Who Are You In 1917 Russia?

I'm somewhere between the Left SRs & Anarchists.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Namtab posted:

How's the evening not-anime politics?

I haven't looked but I imagine it's terrible.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
I'm not even gonna take the test, I'm Bakunin as gently caress (except for his anti-semitism)

EDIT: yeah as predicted I'm on the extreme bottom-left corner

Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Mar 6, 2017

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

namesake posted:

Reviews gave it a five tentacles up.

Only five? Clearly not a big hit with the cephalopod crowd.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

I haven't looked but I imagine it's terrible.

The only thing I've seen is that danzcucks wife had a hot take on the mcaans and Labour don't like the idea of Fox buying sky

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

forkboy84 posted:

Moving away from anime (as rapidly as possible), here's a fun take on the ol' Political Compass, Who Are You In 1917 Russia?

I'm somewhere between the Left SRs & Anarchists.

Bolshevik.



Pochoclo posted:

I swear this thread has the weirdest derails.

To bring it back to righteous britishness, let me just say I'm gonna have some sticky toffee pudding tonight. I still think you guys should replace all instances of salted caramel with dulce de leche, but sticky toffee pudding is quite nice.

You should replace all instances of both with golden syrup.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Mar 6, 2017

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

Moving away from anime (as rapidly as possible), here's a fun take on the ol' Political Compass, Who Are You In 1917 Russia?

I'm somewhere between the Left SRs & Anarchists.
I am Anarchists. Direct hit.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

forkboy84 posted:

Moving away from anime (as rapidly as possible), here's a fun take on the ol' Political Compass, Who Are You In 1917 Russia?

I'm somewhere between the Left SRs & Anarchists.



No surprises.
:anarchists:

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Left SR but probably only due to me being a little poo poo on 1917 Russian political things like the Duma and semantics about strongly agree or just agree.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I'm directly between left Sr and anarchy, although the thing says I'm an anarchist

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



I'm a little more democratic and leftist than the Anarchists, apparently. And here I was worried I was going to reveal myself a counterrevolutionary Menshevik Internationalist or something!

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Mister Adequate posted:

My parents had a big poster of Urutsukidoji up on the living room door.

a massive poster of it was also found in the radio studio set of frankly rubbish kids TV show Chris Cross

LemonyTang
Nov 29, 2009

Ask me about holding 4gate!
Huzzah for Anarchism

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Seaside Loafer posted:

First one I ever saw was the most tentacle rapey one I think ive ever seen. It was lets see ... 22 years ago and they randomly started letting the hard 18 rated anime films in computer game shops for some reason, so it had the famous motorbike one with Kaneda and Tetsuo but it also had this. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108461/ . That's like 2 of hours demons raping young looking girls. That was a bit of an eye opener and no mistake.

I've considered anime as an art form objectively over the years and tbh it does seem to have a tiny bit of raping and young girls and stuff. Just saying.

My mate was a big fan of Fist of the North Star. Now he's dead. I'm not saying the two are connected, but...

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

My mate was a big fan of Fist of the North Star. Now he's dead. I'm not saying the two are connected, but...

He was already dead when he watched it.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Namtab posted:

What we need is the principles of the lib dems.



Once they find some

Don't be ridiculous, the Lib Dems have got plenty of principles. "Do anything to obtain power even if you gently caress over your own voters" being a notable one.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

He was already dead when he watched it.

quite possibly, he started going bald very early and i'm sure it's around the time that the first load of manga started coming to the uk.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Anime gives, and anime takes away

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Menshevik Internationalist here. Can't wait to be strung along by whoever here is closest to Lenin and then shot like a dog in the street. ***It's the Russian way***

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Seaside Loafer posted:

First one I ever saw was the most tentacle rapey one I think ive ever seen. It was lets see ... 22 years ago and they randomly started letting the hard 18 rated anime films in computer game shops for some reason, so it had the famous motorbike one with Kaneda and Tetsuo but it also had this. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108461/ . That's like 2 of hours demons raping young looking girls. That was a bit of an eye opener and no mistake.

I've considered anime as an art form objectively over the years and tbh it does seem to have a tiny bit of raping and young girls and stuff. Just saying.

There's horrible poo poo on film. With real people. I've managed to not see any of that either. Like I get it, there are lots of lovely animes out there. It doesn't stop One punch man being the best brainless fun of last year, or stop LOGH from being the best sci fi epic ever told in visual media. Everyone agrees generalisation is bad. Until we get to anime in which case it's fine and if you watched Trigun you should be put on a watchlist.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I watched trigun and vash the stampede is my lad

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TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Seaside Loafer posted:

First one I ever saw was the most tentacle rapey one I think ive ever seen. It was lets see ... 22 years ago and they randomly started letting the hard 18 rated anime films in computer game shops for some reason, so it had the famous motorbike one with Kaneda and Tetsuo but it also had this. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108461/ . That's like 2 of hours demons raping young looking girls. That was a bit of an eye opener and no mistake.

I've considered anime as an art form objectively over the years and tbh it does seem to have a tiny bit of raping and young girls and stuff. Just saying.

imdb.com posted:

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