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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition?
This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn 95 18.63%
Dennis Skinner 53 10.39%
Angus Robertson 20 3.92%
Tim Farron 9 1.76%
Paul Ukips 7 1.37%
Robot Lenin 105 20.59%
Tony Blair 28 5.49%
Pissflaps 193 37.84%
Total: 510 votes
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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Rakosi posted:

We'll have to agree to disagree then. As much arguments can be made for each side of the point, and the guy who did it is dead, so.

How much more indiscriminate can you get than trying to run over children before you've even started your so called "plan"?

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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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jabby posted:

So Afzhal Khan got the nomination for Manchester Gorton.

I've no idea what he's like as a politician, but Corbyn and his team really really need to get better at forcing through their preferred candidates. Watson and his allies have no problem with it.

To be fair when it's an MEP against a few councillors that's going to be an uphill struggle to get selected.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I actually don't get what the problem with Eaton's tweet is?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Guavanaut posted:

It's a bit tacky and comes off like "the great thing about London is that you can injure people from so many different cultures just by driving down one pavement."

I wouldn't have used magnificent in anything relating to that event.

It really doesn't read like that.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Breath Ray posted:

He might not really think diversity is magnificent after all. I don't think he was being sarcastic personally but others with a more slender grasp on reality might based on preconceptions about the spectator.

I suspect most people who follow George Eaton know who George Eaton is. The political editor of the New Statesman. Which is a centre-left mostly progressive magazine.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Breath Ray posted:

You'd be surprised to hear some of the opinions ppl hold on the centre left.

There's a lot of people who self describe as centre-left but clearly aren't. It's like how lots of racists deny being racist.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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crispix posted:

All goons join us for our weekly misery in #ukgoons (synirc if you are a big 1990s SADDO with an IRC client on your home-computer!!!)



It seems to me we could reduce suicide by cancelling QT.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I studied machine learning. But I'm not sure I understand the necessary hashtags.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Party Boat posted:

It's always seemed weird to me that pound coins are worth counterfeiting these days. Between the raw materials, setup costs, storage and getting them out into circulation the return on investment must be pretty slim.

It's probably outsourced to some child sweatshop somewhere far away.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39399390

The BBC posted:

PM says Brexit will make UK 'more united'

:ironicat:

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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New thread motto.

https://twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/status/846352089349525506

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Private Speech posted:

Is this really true? Aren't comets/meteoroids/whatever actually fairly close?

Astronomy chat ITT

e: meteoroid not meteor I guess, either way it's like, few hundred/thousand kilometres away.

Nah I don't think it's really true. Stars can last billions of years and stars at the least those within our galaxy are only a few thousand or or tens of thousands of light years away.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I'm very concerned about the possibility of children exchanging hashtags through the whats apps.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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JFairfax posted:

I can think of nothing worse than a special brexit themed question time.

So any question time for the last year or so then.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Prince John posted:

I'm also having to resist the temptation to direct too many disapproving scowls at the daughter for getting into bed with the Sun as well - it's not a one way process after all, but I suppose she's a victim too in her own way.

They've probably offered her more money than she earns in a year tbf.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Lots of white people in the QT audience for the noted Sharia ruled Islamic no-go zone Birmingham.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Breath Ray posted:

How did Big Keir Starmer do last night?

Fine I guess, but it doesn't matter does it?

People have made up their minds and Leavers/Remainers is the new identity politics. Don't you know that German car manufacturers will force their government to give us an amazing trade deal :smuggo:

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Breath Ray posted:

Im always glad to see a labour rep doing well. Plus with his legal background he'd easily be able to dismantle the Tories discredited ideas on economics

Why would being a lawyer make you better at economics?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Breath Ray posted:

Lawyers are fair minded and rigorous

They also tend to speak in a way that's hard for a lot of people to understand.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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The reduction of his conviction to manslaughter is an absolute disgrace.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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What I meant was that Leave/Remain as an identity is (for the time being) a stronger factor than class/gender/race at the moment.

Putting the more abstract discussion about stress/mental health aside for a moment I just don't understand how anyone who has read the Marine A transcripts could conclude that he wasn't in control of his actions and well aware of what he was doing.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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MikeCrotch posted:

Why do you love the Taliban more than ARE BRAVE BOYS eh

Just a filthy lefty I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Hey Pissflaps do you think that Theresa May is going to veto this?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Pissflaps posted:

Scotland's parliament has voted to ask to be able to ask to leave.

Indeed. Because Westminster has a veto on the matter.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Prince John posted:

This is what happens every single time a judge makes a sentencing decision and includes previous good character in mitigation, surely? Someone who's committed their first crime at the age of 60 gets to have a more lenient sentence compared to someone who's spent their entire life as a criminal.

Usually previous good character is a proxy for how white and middle class someone is, unfortunately.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I'd rather we import Jean-Luc Melenchon before the tariffs are enacted.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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jBrereton posted:

lol the battle between J-Melz and The Corbster to see who could tailspin the left into electoral oblivion the fastest would be something to watch but I'd rather have a strong left or *whisper* centre left instead of that

This makes no sense because JLM is outpolling Hamon by 5 points while the PS melts down with the right of the party having exactly the same kind of hissy fit the Labour right had over Corbyn. If anything JLM was prescient in recognising that neoliberal faux centre-left politicians have no interest in honouring the principle of having a big tent political party when they lose to leftists in internal elections.

Macron will probably get elected but he'll go down in flames when people realise he literally represents the worst aspects of Hollande's government.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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https://twitter.com/The45Storm/status/847136619622739970

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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jabby posted:

When we have skulls on our uniforms and not before.

But what if they're just the skulls of our enemies?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Maybe we shouldn't wage pointless military action and we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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UKMT April 2017 - It's Brexit, all the way down.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Namtab posted:

Guys please I said that I needed to come up with the name but thanks for the suggestions

Undermining the will of the people are you? :smuggo:

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Namtab posted:

I'm literally the people's champion though

Arron Banks???????????????????????

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I'm not sure if I can obey the forum guidelines on drunkposting if reality continues to take the current trajectory.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Can we even afford a thread title at current exchange rates?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Breath Ray posted:

Not bad but I'm probably going to keep an open mind and go with Brexit: what nextit?

Oh god. Are we now political adrenaline junkies? Seeking out crazier and more stupid political and economic risks to take just for the thrill of wondering if our society will finally collapse?

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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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kingturnip posted:

Interesting to see that the Govt is considering dropping the SATs at the end of Year 2.
They're a vile idea and whoever presented it should have been dropped from the roof of Conservative HQ at the time, but better late than never as long as they follow through.

SATs for 6 year olds? Bloody hell. I don't mind standardised testing in principle as a source of data for research and policy making but I wouldn't even give the schools back the results never mind the kids and parents.

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