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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Only a week away? YES!

I loved season 1 but season 2 was even better and I can't wait to see what happens between Jimmy and Chuck next.

P.S, gently caress Chuck :mad:

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Loved it, the parallel Jimmy and Mike stuff is so different and yet both always manage to up the tension in such different ways.

I'm so glad this show is back :)

Raxivace posted:

I have a prediction about tonight's episode- it will be both cool and good.

How did you know!?! :aaa:

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

I love Chuck's little fistpump move after he cons Ernie because it shows he really is just as guilty of everything he hates about his brother.

Yeah that's the best, he's pulling all the same little bullshit moves/fenagling people/conning them to get his way even though he knows it's outside the law. The one thing he could always dangle over Jimmy's head was his unassailable integrity and he's losing that now.

I also was kinda hoping that Howard would say (or at least think),"Jesus Chuck it sounds like your brother is humoring you to prevent you wrecking your life."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

drunken officeparty posted:

I know the answer is "because the tv people don't want to do it", but couldn't that tape get Saul disbarred at least? It doesn't need to be criminally provable to do that as far as I know

There is so much wriggle room for Jimmy on just the contents of the tape it's basically useless even if it wasn't inadmissable - from memory I'm pretty sure you can hear Jimmy in exasparation say,"FINE! I switched the numbers, does that make you happy!?!" which combined with Chuck having just temporarily lost his power of attorney (is that the right term?) just makes it more likely that Jimmy was humoring his older brother who is slowly losing his mind.

Chuck knows it too, as that scene with Howard indicates. I think that others are right with their read that he is trying to get word of the tape's existence to Jimmy through third parties so that Jimmy does something stupid and illegal enough to get himself disbarred. Either that or he'll just play it to Kim as part of his ongoing effort to prove that Jimmy cannot be trusted as a lawyer.

Anyway, I love this show, Michael McKean is amazing and part of the appeal is that Chuck is justified in many ways in his concerns/complaints about Jimmy but he's also an incredibly selfish, myopic rear end in a top hat who wants to keep his brother "where he belongs" as a drone/low level grunt who is inferior to Chuck "the Good Son" McGill.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Longbaugh01 posted:

But, doesn't Kim already know at least that Jimmy did something underhanded to get her the case and she just doesn't want to know the details?

Yeah, but that would be Chuck forcing the details on her so she can't live in wilful ignorance..

I do think it's more likely he's trying to set up Jimmy to get caught doing something he can't talk/fake his way out of though, just brought it up as another possibility. Whatever the case, Chuck is basically running a con/muddying his so-called integrity because he thinks the ends justify the means - the end in this case being that he's sick of Jimmy using the ends to justify the means!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

OctaviusBeaver posted:

I can't remember why Kim has Jimmy's clients now. When and why did that happen?

He was dealing with Chuck so she took over some appointments he had scheduled to get Wills written up.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Chuck: I know my brother, he'll try to sneak in at night an-

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

You know I can't see anyway Better Call Saul season 3 isn't the best show on television this ye-

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

Fargo S3 starts today

Welp, you had a good run Jimmy!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

GobiasIndustries posted:

I will go ahead and say that either of those two showing up would be a detriment.

I agree. If it was to happen (which it shouldn't) I think they should just show the scene where they grabbed him on the street from his perspective, and only show them from the footage from Breaking Bad. That or Saul greeting the uncle of his newest client who of course turns out to be Walt.

Even then it would be bad, the show should end with Jimmy firmly ensconced as Saul and then some resolution of the flash-forward, and not try to connect up with Breaking Bad beyond that.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Big Mean Jerk posted:

The entire reason they bought that car wash is because Walt had worked there before and it made more sense as a cover than the random Laser Tag Saul wanted them to buy.

I know goons are bad at watching tv, but c'mon people.

Why was Walt always hanging around with that blond lady and that kid with the crutches, what was their connection to him? :confused:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Howard has had plenty of opportunities to cut Chuck off, and to do it in a way that nobody (even Chuck himself) could dispute was perfectly above board. He's never taken one and I don't see him starting now.

From memory there is a scene in season 2 where he wistfully talks to Kim about how he wishes he could have had the balls like she does to just walk away from a big, prestigious law firm and try to build something of his own. He couldn't shake his father's pull though and Chuck is obviously tied up in that desire to prove himself worthy of his father's legacy - Chuck knew his dad, Chuck is a legend in legal circles, Chuck is a founding partner. Howard will go out of his way to keep him happy. He might not lie under oath for him, but I'm sure he'd do everything in his power to avoid having to testify at all.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

About the biggest gently caress you Jimmy could give Chuck would be if he successfully defended himself by dragging Chuck through the mud, then decided to change his name afterwards to Saul Goodman because "Well Chuck thanks to you the McGill name's worth nothing in law now."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I just caught up to the latest episode and wondered why it was only 15 minutes long, then I realized 45 minutes had passed :stare:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Watching the parallels as Gus completely outplays Hector and Jimmy & Kim are seemingly setting up to do the same to Chuck is a treat.... but I'm concerned that one of their plans will go awry and honestly I don't expect Gus to be the one whose long-term planning backfires on him :ohdear:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

See, I wondered that, but not knowing Spanish at all, I didn't actually notice.

Reminds me of Narcos, where Wagner Moura is loving amazing as Pablo Escobar but I've read that apparently his Spanish is pretty bad, or at least his accent is. It must be pretty distracting for speakers of the actual language.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

General Dog posted:

Even though most peak-tv stuff is too racy for my parents, I feel like this is a show they could actually enjoy, except it's kind of a hard sell when the first episode features teenagers face-loving a severed head.

My dad just recently started watching and absolutely fell in love with the show, and he was furious when he got to the end of season 2 because he didn't realize there would be a season 3 and was pissed about the cliffhanger :3:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I think it's far more likely that Jimmy's plan is to demonstrate Chuck's unstable mental condition and argue that he (Jimmy) was basically conned into his breaking and entering, and that the contents of the tape just demonstrate a loving brother telling his distraught, mentally fragile older brother what he wanted to hear in order to get him back on even keel.

There's also a possibility that Kim taped Chuck admitting that he set up a duplicate tape, to further the idea that Chuck set up with deliberate forethought driving Jimmy to his extreme actions in order to game the system and get him disbarred.

As for the address book, it may be somebody from Chuck's past who can also attest to his deteriorating mental state, potentially his ex-wife. The really ironic thing is that Jimmy said what he said because Chuck looked to have finally gone completely off the deep end and Jimmy was still trying to protect him, and now in order to save himself from Chuck he's going to have to throw him under the bus.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

maskenfreiheit posted:

I seriously doubt the bar is going to think anyone is responsible for illegal behavior except the person doing the illegal behavior.

I freely admit I haven't got a clue how the bar works, especially their disciplinary stuff, but do they really not take mitigating circumstances into account?

Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 04:27 on May 5, 2017

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I was watching Better Call Saul and suddenly it turned into hardcore pornography as I watched Chuck get mercilessly hosed :stare:

Amazing episode, amazing meltdown, Michael McKean is incredible.


Just perfect.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

SeANMcBAY posted:

Chuck is definitely a millionaire and can probably afford to do a lot of wacky stuff if he wanted to.

Hell in this episode we saw even back at the start of his illness he was willing to pay guys to install a shitload of appliances/gear that wasn't even hooked up, just to maintain appearances.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Every so often I just go back and watch Chuck's breakdown on the stand again, it's soooooo good :allears:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Nthing what has been said about how great it is seeing this whole collection of people being brought together, with their attendant concerns, struggles, arguments, gently caress-ups, successes etc all rendered ultimately irrelevant because they're all fated to have their lives destroyed by Walter White in a few years.

I don't mean that in a sarcastic way, it's really great because it serves both to humanize/build on those characters while enhancing Breaking Bad. On every rewatch now seeing Walt destroy these people is going to have so much more impact.


That closing shot of her just sitting there in stunned silence after watching the resurrection of Saul Goodman :discourse:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Oz ruled, it did some crazy off-the-wall stuff for its time.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

drunken officeparty posted:

It comes in a wooden box. That expensive.

Well duh, wood doesn't grow on trees :rolleyes:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Watching Jimmy sneer as he detailed his plan to con the rear end in a top hat in the restaurant, and Kim's slowly growing unease was great, the acting on this show is really good (as is literally every other aspect of the show).

I figured at the end that Jimmy was making some kind of sympathy play to get her to help him out, it wasn't until he started talking about Chuck that I realized he was just looking to gently caress him over since he blames him for the situation he finds himself in now. That final shot of him walking away and grinning was so great.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

That moment when Jimmy realizes that dirtbag drugdealers will pay up without argument while honest businessmen try to screw him out of paying him ("Oh we'll just redo exactly what you did ourselves instead of paying you for more, can't say fairer than that!") was simultaneously a little fistpump moment and deeply depressing. He's gonna go off the deep-end fast.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Riptor posted:

I'm dense as hell who was the dead guy mike metal detected at the beginning

Good Samaritan that Hector had killed after he helped the truck driver that Mike hijacked. That story he heard in the survivor's group about the lady's husband being missing and how it left her with no sense of certainty reminded him that the samaritan probably has family out there somewhere wondering why their husband/brother/father/son etc never came home/what happened to him.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Tree Dude posted:

They like to shoot Mike doing tedious things in an artsy way. Digging, taking a car apart......... probably some other stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqL77G2x61E

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Jimmy, you monster :smith:

I can't believe I'm in a situation where I hope Howard and Kim end up opening Hamlin-Wexler (Wexler-Hamlin) and dump those toxic McGill Brothers out of both their lives for good.... :(

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Cojawfee posted:

I'm not saying the money would be a problem. One of the conditions of his PPD was that he is required to have a job.

He can open Saul Goodman Productions (hasn't he already done that?) and employ himself and pay himself whatever he wants even if all he does is sit on his rear end all day (and you know he'd actually be out busting his rear end trying to make more money).

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

God that was good, really loving good. This would have been the best show on television this year if it wasn't for David Lynch being unfair and raising the bar impossibly high yet again.

Chuck's annihilation at Howard's hands was so satisfying, but then watching him fall apart and tear apart his house was really distressing, and his ending was phenomenally well done. As always, Chuck was a fantastic character to hate but I'm really gonna miss him, and especially Michael McKean who was incredible in the role.

Jimmy sacrificing his own standing AND his future in Elder Law once his probation was over was really sweet, even if it was a problem of his own making. Kim learned to relax! Nacho pulled off his scam and saved his dad's life! Of course now he's on Gus' radar whichis gonna be interesting, I really can't wait for next season. And I'm gonna miss Michael McKean a whole lot.

lotus circle posted:

Man Gus might have lived through BB if he had let Hector die there.

Yeah I think so. Hector was his ONLY blindspot, Walt would have never been able to get at him without Hector.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

PassTheRemote posted:

I am going to miss Michael McKean in this show. For all I hated Chuck, he played the character perfectly.

God yes, he was so good.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

vermin posted:

We need to combine Married With Children with Breaking Bad

That's right Peggy. I'm the head honcho. The big enchilada. The one who knocks.

Gus: Walter, do you really want to cross me, my entire organization AND the deadly Mexican Cartel that backs me?
Walt (grinning and nodding slowly): Let's rock.
Crowd hoots and hollers for 10 minutes

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