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Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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The 'tailgate parties' that they charge money for when buffalo plays in Toronto arena good template

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Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Rip the leafs, it was a good run

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Aphrodite posted:

Can we put "Waaah I don't want to play a good team in round 2" in the OP?

Seems to be what most people come to the thread for so it might save some effort.

My team doesn't have to play a good team in round 2 :smuggo:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Well they have willingly employed a known rapist for a while so there's that!

Uh what?

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Cartoon Man posted:

Should've got a penalty for taking a dive.

Ovi should have got a penalty for holding

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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N: there was some hockey and the stupid red team lost, yay

V: anyone who still says MAF isn't an elite goalie is dumb as hell, he made some incredible saves tonight

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Ceyton posted:

I have a good idea for the next thread title

NHL Playoffs 2017: Everyone's a Kawalimus sock puppet

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Speaking of concussing Crosby

Should assholes that cause brain injury go to jail?

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Levitate posted:

e: not gdt

Oh my, there are going to be some epic meltdowns in here if the pens somehow pull this one out.

:allears:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Cartoon Man posted:

Not tonight.

:unsmith:

crosby's probably dead tho, I can't imagine there will be much debate on whoever it was that decked him needing supplemental discipline.

AAB posted:

I forgot that Sid and Niskanen had a bit of a history

https://twitter.com/SidneyCrosbyEgo/status/859242688528252928

For a guy that's had multiple head injuries fighting seems like a pretty stupid thing to do. Yes I know that was from a while ago.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Captain Internet posted:

It's almost as if it was before all those head injuries.

Hadn't he had some pre NHL tho?

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Mind_Taker posted:

Also if Niskanen gets suspended I think I'll lose my poo poo. But knowing the DOPS they'll make the worst decision possible.

Why would this be the worst decision?

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Slappy Pappy posted:

Niskanen's eyes are pretty close together. I'm betting he did it on purpose.

It's pretty hard to crosscheck someone in the head by accident

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Cartoon Man posted:

Ummm never mind. :ninja:

How about now

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Jamwad Hilder posted:

lol the caps are going to lose a series despite outplaying the other team aren't they

Jamwad Hilder posted:

Holtby has been real bad this playoffs.

Jordan7hm posted:

Eh. His real bad is still pretty ok. They aren't losing because of (their) goaltending. They can't loving score. You aren't going to win a playoff series where you only score 3 goals in a single game.

His average over the whole playoffs is 914, against the pens I'd bet it's sub 900, that's bad. MAF has stood on his head so can't really blame the caps too much for not scoring. It's certainly not for lack of effort.

myron cope posted:

I can't wait for the meltdowns from the Oshie penalty at the end

It was a good call tho

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Gio posted:

when you dont score on MAF, you blame the forwards. MAF is a goalie to be scored upon.

Have you watched any of the series? He's made some monster saves.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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I recant my previous opinion after seeing a better replay - lol at that sell job

I still wanted the Pens to win because anyone that beats MY LEAFS deserves only ashes

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Thufir posted:

IMO it's actually pretty impressive to be able to think fast enough to react convincingly to that.

Oh it's a great sell, no disputing that. I was convinced it was real until I watched it super slow mo

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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JawKnee posted:

hey did you catch Ron pointing out in the intermission that the contact was completely outside the crease? With a still-frame and everything?

Contact outside the crease is still interference, and he was in the crease

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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JawKnee posted:

Okay, you're a ref as per what you've said in SAS threads, so I have some questions: Can you define incidental contact? I can't find a definition for it. Also when a rule talks about where contact is 'initiated', it would seem to mean where the point of contact is initiated, no?

As a referee, the rules are specifically vague about things like that to gif the refs wiggle room in judgement.

In this case, I think the ref made an error in judgement in determining the contact to be incidental with Talbot outside the crease.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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JawKnee posted:

How much of the goalie has to be within the crease then? I think the rule is referring to where contact is initiated on each player - ie: is it initiated on a part of the player that is outside the crease. Also, that particular addendum tells refs not to pay too much attention to exactly where contact was made, but rather the nature of it.

And I agree, the rules are vague. I don't really know if that's good or bad - seems like everyone is very annoyed at coaches challenges slowing down the games by making sure offsides are strictly adhered to - so maybe a little vagueness is good?


Thanks! Is there specifically no definition of incidental contact? Or what 'initiating contact' means?

Generally not. Rules are usually structured so that standard English language interpretations of words are sufficient. There's not likely a glossary section that says "incidental means blah", although I haven't read the NHL rule book cover to cover.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Powershift posted:

I think the problem is the rules are left vague under the assumption referees aren't paint drinking morons, and that's obviously dead loving wrong.

:colbert:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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I think that you have no loving idea how hard it is to officiate an NHL speed hockey game.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Powershift posted:

I understand those realities, and discussing it to death won't fix anything, but it does ease the frustration.

Also, I'm sorry, Kalenn, I'm sure you're a wonderful, fully functional individual.

As much as any goon is

I prefer the blue of the old Ford tractors over John Deere green tho

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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kalensc posted:

Regardless of how the series/playoffs end for Pit, if Crosby is healthy (concussion-wise) at the end then I'll be content because I got to witness something wholly unexpected.

Following MAF's probable last hurrah with the Pens has been great. I'm happy that he has put together a string of strong performances for a "farewell tour". We all know that he has some glaring flaws (e.g. rebound control, positional over-commitment), but when it works out in his favor that scuttling and scrambling is a joy to behold.

Murray is clearly a more reliable and overall skillful netminder, but MAF is always fun to watch (both in good and bad times) and he's a drat charming fellow off the ice too. Earnest, goofy, clever, and endearing, he's easily my favorite person to have ever regularly donned a Pens jersey.

This was why Hasek was so fun to watch too, flopping all over the place and somehow making a bunch of crazy saves anyways.

Ginette Reno posted:

I mean it seems like they followed the protocol. He stayed off the ice Wednesday. Assuming he had no symptoms that day they then put him on the ice for a light practice Thursday. With no symptoms there, the next step would be a full contact practice which would have him being just able to play tomorrow provided he feels fine after this practice.

I kinda wish they'd hold him out until at least game 6 but if the Bone Shamans say he can play I guess he can play.

Yeah there's a clear process to the concussion protocol. It's ultimately reliant on player self-evaluation to some extent though and I think the odds of Crosby wanting to just play it safe are pretty low.

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Murray is on the ice today as well so it's highly possible he's ready to go for the Senators. (Or Rangers, I guess.) But probably the Senators.

Honestly do you think they pull MAF after he's been so great? If he has a lovely game then perhaps but until then I think they have to ride the hot streak.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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All goalies are more than a little crazy

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Cartoon Man posted:

So Sidney Crosby went head first into the boards last night and looked dazed standing up, but he kept right on playing. After the game, he was asked if he was evaluated for a concussion and he said something like, "Yes, I was, standard stuff." Pens coach was asked if Sidney was checked for a concussion and he said NO.

:crossarms:

Big difference between playoff concussion and regular season concussion, duh


I'm sure he's :airquote:fine:airquote:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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ThinkTank posted:

No one in this country gives the slightest crap about Ottawa, it's just so polite, bureaucratic and forgettable. How the rest of the world views Canada is how Canadians view Ottawa. A Senators cup win would barely register in the national consciousness.

I know the upper house has been getting more independent but they're battling for a cup now?

:v:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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This is the best. Was this tonight?

Citizen Tayne posted:

The Leafs literally paid Hotdog Phil to win a cup for us last year.

:negative:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Call Your Grandma posted:

Honestly the only thing that would piss me off about Ottawa winning the cup would be having Chris Neil's name on it.
MacArthur and Phaneuf both got poo poo on by a lovely Toronto front office/coach and a lovely Toronto media, respectively, and it would be nice for them to see the same kind of redemption that Kessel got (albeit in much lesser roles). It seems like most Canadian hockey fans that live in different cities from their teams (or at least the one's I've met to date) cheer for Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver so I'm really not worried about meeting insufferable Ottawa fans.

Phaneuf is garbage tho

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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ElwoodCuse posted:

Yo remember when Don Cherry said Phaneuf was better than Lidstrom because he had like 3 times as many hits :xd:

Don Cherry is garbage too, so it fits

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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cenotaph posted:

gently caress Phaneuf forever for getting on Phil about cookies on-camera in 24/7.

No you see Phil was getting on the cookies

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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cenotaph posted:

The fuel to be ten times the player Phaneuf ever will be.

Can't deny he started to try harder once he was out of a city that hated him

iospace posted:

Go Preds. gently caress the Ducks.

Go Sens. gently caress the Pens.

:same:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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grack posted:

Or, somebody simply has a lot of experience smuggling very large fishbags of coke in their pants due to some very poor life choices. I don't judge.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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bump_fn posted:

sens in 4 would be the funniest loving thing

It would be nigh impossible, I would say

I would also say that

While he is still a lazy piece of poo poo and I hate him

Phil Kessel might be

Ok

At hockey

:suicide:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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cenotaph posted:

I think someone in the GDT asked for this.



guffawed out loud in my bathroom and got my wife out of bed, thanks for that

fancy stats posted:

I missed the game, but this happened?

https://twitter.com/Spacecam/status/864296334307844096

https://twitter.com/MarcPDumont/status/864297364655415296

Because it's the playoffs.

e: And sure, a GWG or something, idk.

He was mad because he wanted a second hotdog and couldn't get one

Kalenn Istarion
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Pornographic Memory posted:

i feel you, either they don't actually realize he leads the playoffs in scoring or they actually do know but still think he just doesn't look like he's trying hard enough out there.


One argument would be, how amazing would he be if he wasn't out of shape, put effort into forechecking and backchecking and wasn't relying only on his raw talent to make the puck move fast and be sometimes weirdly ignored by defenders

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Aphrodite posted:

It's just the fat steroid head that throws off his overall look and makes him look fat.

Honestly I thought this the other day. Not the anabolic kind, but the cortizone / prednisone kind. Possible he's on cortical steroids for some kind of inflammatory condition I guess.

Ginette Reno posted:

I don't know if lazy is the right word. He back checks.

What irritates some people about Kessel is he's soft as hell in the corners. If he gets a puck and is about to get hit, that puck is being thrown away. If it's a 50/50 battle he's frequently going to bail out and let the other guy get it if there's a threat of contact. I don't think it's laziness though so much as self preservation. He doesn't like to get hit at all. It's a weird mentality since obviously 99% of NHLers are not that way, so it stands out a bit.

Thing is he's so good with the puck on his stick and his style of play also means he almost never misses games. You just need to have him with the right linemates to maximize his talents. The reason he almost never plays with Crosby is Sid expects his linemates to cycle and that's the antithesis of Kessel's game. Malkin is just as happy playing a rush game as a cycle game so Kessel works much better with him.

Getting mad at Kessel for not winning board battles though is just misplaced anger. It's not his game. Sullivan thankfully understands Kessel and is willing to let him do his thing.

I still think some of it's laziness and he could be even more effective with more effort, but I could also somewhat buy an argument that he's just one of those slippery guys that just dodges getting hit all the loving time. I saw a guy that can't have been more than 5'2" playing in a junior hockey showcase tourney I reffed last weekend and I was expecting him to get loving plastered but nobody got a solid hit on him the entire game. He just found ways to dish the puck (safely, not just panic dumping) or straight up dodge all these 6'+ guys who kept trying to murder him.

My opinion of this kid was helped by the fact that he has gold star hockey hair down to mid-back and wears a massively over-sized jersey untucked so it hangs to his loving knees.

Literally this, except the guy is in his late teens:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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Kalenn Istarion
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From the SAS hockey player thread:

Bootcha posted:

I suspect if I transition to a full day of 3 meals of 2 hotdogs I can transcend to a celestial being of pure dangles.

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