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nevvy you can pretend to be as stupid as you want but the interviewer and Obama both understood the question was not "are you going to become a floor trader"
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Nevvy Z posted:Oh word? Please demonstrate where in that interview it's suggested that they were tlaking about taking any money from wall street ever. what the gently caress do you think president's do Post-presidency if not give speeches and write memoirs
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Apr 26, 2017 17:57
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Ogmius815 posted:This is the interview I'm referring to. This statement means "I am not going into finance in my post presidency". Contra you idiots, it does not mean "I, President Barack Hussein Obama, solemnly pledge not to accept any money from any financial firm". just wondering but how do you function in the real world? is it difficult?
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Apr 26, 2017 18:27
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LeoMarr posted:So will the democrats vote yes on tax cuts? Seems like a quagmire if they were to vote no. Everyone hates taxes, so tax cuts are a great public opinion spinner. It seems likely that this tax reform may create a masive influx of consumer spending, i mean im buying a loving house the day after these cuts come. How many people would upgrade their standard of livinging with 15% more $$ lmao enjoy your tax increase when you can't write off state and local
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Apr 27, 2017 07:39
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JeffersonClay posted:It would obviously have been better for Cantor if Obama had decided not to indict at all. There's literally zero evidence to support your narrative here. But there's a democrat to poo poo on so drat the torpedoes! You know if literally no one but you can understand the brilliance of your posts maybe the problem is you instead of everyone else
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Apr 28, 2017 21:30
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oh this is going to be fun watching him try to defend that
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Apr 28, 2017 22:17
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JeffersonClay posted:some unexplored bias. well let's just start exploring yours then shall we
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Apr 28, 2017 22:41
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SSNeoman posted:He was being sarcastic. Come on dude. ah yes because sarcasm is impossible without racism
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Apr 28, 2017 22:51
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"Other people are racist so it's okay for me to be slightly less racist"
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Apr 28, 2017 23:18
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Jon is probably going to keep working on his farm and ruining summerslam for the foreseeable future
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Apr 29, 2017 23:15
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Famethrowa posted:The Syrian civil war begs to differ, and that's even with full paramilitary groups on the sides of the civilians. The Syrian government seemed to manage just fine with logistics. the syrian military was also still inside syria. imagine the clusterfuck of trying to transport troops and equipment back from overseas during a civil war
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May 2, 2017 19:56
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I don't think the ballot can be ruled out but it requires the democrats to either reform or get the gently caress out of the way
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May 2, 2017 20:02
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for 2020 at least anyway
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May 2, 2017 20:06
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guidoanselmi posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/02/hillary-clinton-adds-misogyny-and-more-to-the-list-of-reasons-she-lost/ lmao she's blaming the loving debate questions
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May 2, 2017 21:20
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Donald trump is a piss golem clown, it never should have been that close
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May 3, 2017 02:28
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Falstaff posted:Or that she was a credible deliverer of such a message. bingo. flipping through her website's page on economic proposals is p interesting as there seems to be very little that directly impacts workers but a whole lot of oblique stuff. the minimum wage and removing the tipped minimum wage are the only ones striking me as a having a direct immediate impact. everything else is we will help small business grow, which would provide jobs but probably doesn't interest voters who are not also small business owners; we will encourage the creation of low income housing though tax credits to developers, which again would provide cheap housing but probably doesn't interest voters who are not also real estate developers, and so on. then you have the fair tax proposals, reigning in wall street and the banks and tax reform which she lacked credibility on. on the whole her proposals would have actually helped the economy but theres very little for the average person to grab onto as exciting
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May 3, 2017 04:29
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ISIS CURES TROONS posted:Holy poo poo, people in this thread are unironically calling Hillary abuela. That is incredibly cringy. Don't you have some homeless people to sue
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May 3, 2017 16:46
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shrike82 posted:Man, it's something to see Sanderistas doubling down on wanting to fault Hillary for Bernie electors choosing to be faithless. elector, it was literally one guy but hey it's great we've managed to discover the ur-berniebro I guess Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 03:15 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 03:13
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shrike82 posted:4 out of 8 but what's fudging numbers between leftists well if we're going to include the invalidated ones it's 3 out of 10 so back at you
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May 4, 2017 03:18
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Probably Magic posted:You should stop invoking Chapo Trap House when you clearly know nothing about them. he's just trolling
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May 4, 2017 03:40
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other than residency requirements is there anything preventing a person being a senator for multiple states. bernie as NJ-vermont's joint senator would be lol
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May 4, 2017 04:18
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a better troll would have disappeared for a little while by now
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May 4, 2017 04:22
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shrike82 posted:To use the same argument, if leftism is so self-evidently popular, why can't it succeed by itself? "if free soil-ism is so popular why can't the republican party succeed by itself?" -shrike82, 1857
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May 5, 2017 02:29
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SSNeoman posted:That's a reasonable position. We should absolutely get Dems to push it in state level. It's a far cry from her saying "no I don't support single payer" no its not, its not viable for low population states so i guess they just have to sit and spin (and go bankrupt and die)
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May 5, 2017 21:51
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dox posted:I don't understand why there are so many Democrat centrist apologists in this thread who want the party to embrace the platform that Hillary already tried and failed at: attempting to bring in "moderate" or "centrist" Republicans... it clearly didn't work for her on top of everything else. Meanwhile the "socialist" Bernie had and continues to have immense popularity across the aisle, and yet the party needs to continue to move to the center and not to the left? centrism cannot fail it can only be failed
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May 5, 2017 21:52
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"wanting democrats to pass single payer is okay but god help you if you try to make democratic politicians take action on it"
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May 7, 2017 00:35
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so instead we'll build a majority where neither the national party nor half of the democratic congressional conference support it, thereby ensuring the passage of single payer!!!
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May 7, 2017 00:42
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JeffersonClay posted:You can believe what you like, but let's not pretend you don't have a purity test for democrats on single payer, because that's literally what you're describing here. yes how dare we demand the democrats help 99% of americans by giving them quality healthcare, how dare us. your mental image of future elections is so dire i question why you even care what the democrats do. the republicans are apparently so unbeatable on messaging that winning elections on any aspect of the democratic platform is impossible
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May 7, 2017 01:48
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JeffersonClay posted:There's no rational reason to believe that republicans will rally behind opposition to socialism? Don't be naive. I'm not quibbling with assertions that moving left would energize leftists. But the suggestion that moving left would energize leftists but have no effect whatsoever on the republicans' motivation to oppose us is frankly absurd. It's obviously going to do both, and so whether or not moving left would help or hurt us in elections depends on the magnitude of those reactions generally, and on the composition of individual districts specifically. I'm happy to concede that single payer will help us in blue districts, and even in purple ones, but in deep red districts? Please. what are some policy planks you think the national party should adopt that can appease voters in all districts? what I'm hearing here is you want 50 democratic parties, each with their own agenda and goals and only able to agree collectively on the notion that the letter R won't be after their names if elected
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May 7, 2017 05:33
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do we really have to have this argument again
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May 8, 2017 17:03
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Raskolnikov38 posted:do we really have to have this argument again apparently the answer is: yes
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May 8, 2017 17:40
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JeffersonClay posted:Parents that oppose integrating a school with an ostensibly non-racist rationale--dirty racists, should be liquidated. still curious to hear your planks the national party should adopt that wont be attacked by republicans btw
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May 8, 2017 21:13
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Majorian posted:Is your argument really so weak that you have to set up strawmen this blatant? 
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May 8, 2017 21:18
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oh my god this argument is the worst. is part of the resistance to the re-zoning based on racism? most definitely. can sam bee or jason jones be shown to be members of that faction of those in opposition? without clearer evidence, no. like i am not a fan of sam bee but give them the benefit of the doubt that their reasons for opposing it is something more benign
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May 8, 2017 21:50
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Nevvy Z posted:There is no real form of structural violence happening in Jefferson Clays posts and leftists are not a disadvantaged group. the photons containing his posts are violence upon my eyes
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May 8, 2017 23:55
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VitalSigns posted:Winning the electoral vote without a majority of popular support is a public mandate now? trump's got a mandate, you heard it here folks
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May 9, 2017 03:35
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Kilroy posted:IIRC Clinton won among poorer voters just not at the margins you usually expect a Democrat to do so. yeah according to the nyt's exit polls the under 30k income bracket swung 16% to trump from 2012
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May 9, 2017 16:29
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i have a proposal, jc and the neoliberal branch of the party can go do their own thing and we're all go do our own thing and then in december 2020 we can sit down and compare notes
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May 10, 2017 02:24
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Ze Pollack posted:Yup. Campaigning firmly on how Pragmatic Liberalism was the sensible, mature, compromise position between the outlandish people saying 15$/hr was good and the ones saying 'the Mexicans are raping your children.' lmao because these two things are equal in any way shape or form
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I believe capitalism is essential to the functioning of a society, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY
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