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Tom Perez B/K/M?
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B 77 25.50%
K 160 52.98%
M 65 21.52%
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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Condiv posted:

wj stop pretending you actually support socialism, no one's buying it.

Maybe you could defend Obama some more to really burnish those socialist credentials

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I guess to me, trying to slash social security is probably just as bad, if not worse (!), than perpetuating a lovely racist caricature. even for minorities.

Condiv posted:

as opposed to yours when you decided it was time to defend nazis marching in the streets as "fake nazis" and that they should be left alone?

Don't you have more racist Alex Jones screeds to post?

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
So how is antifa going to keep the Nazi bashing going if all their rallies are cancelled? Is that considered a victory condition?

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Why is it that people are able to make the Trump voter -> Nazi connection so easily, yet it seems to fall apart when you bring up who most white women voted for?

Face it, most white women are Nazis just like most white men are

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Just a reminder that Tulsi 'hates Muslims' because she's friends with someone that Obama is also friends with

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Peachfart posted:

This article disagrees.

Wow an article from socialistworker.org that has very little actual direct evidence she believes this, what a shocker

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Who gives a poo poo what a bunch of tankies think about Tulsi? Literally every criticism of her applies to Obama as well, someone who Tulsi-haters universally adore. Something tells me the concern isn't in good faith! :)

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
isn't it funny about how all this monday morning quarterbacking/analysis is pretty much poo poo compared to "imagine this person will act the way they're paid to"

like lol at ever believing that democratic centrism was purely a strategic position

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
And we're trusting Kamala Harris to make good on this Medicare for All commitment... why?

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Nobody offline gives a gently caress about Russia because the whole thing balances on an axis of "nobody would have known how bad Hillary was unless Putin told them"

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
The bad blood comes not only from that, but from the fact that Clinton supporters are provably more racist than Sanders supporters, so the claims of racsexism came off as particularly craven

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Chomskyan posted:

He is literally the worst president in history

This is why I don't trust liberals. Trail of Tears? Vietnam? Iraq? No, the pussy grabbing orange guy is the worst!

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
It's really sad that people might be fooled by Booker and Harris' co-sponsoring of Bernie's bill. :(

Marxalot posted:

True, but it's a step forward from "We will not even seriously discuss this as an option, commie"

This only works if you assume Democrats operate in good faith. At this point, you have to be truly delusional to belive anything Dems say when they're in the opposition. Remember all that stuff Obama was supposed to do for unions? They can go chew soap. Lip service IS NOT PROGRESS.

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
There's no credible position to take BUT MFA at this point. What are Booker or Harris going to do in the face of a Hillary loss - try to sell Obamacare, precisely when it's clear that it's not going to control premiums in any meaningful way and most people already hate it? And that assumes that Trump won't try to sabotage it!

Why would they fall on that sword? This is pure strategic triangulation taken by a party that literally cannot do anything.

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I will care about them moving the right direction once they show that was the right decision.

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
While you're over here trying to prevent tens of thousands of annual deaths due to lack of healthcare, someone almost got ran over by an rear end in a top hat!!! Get your priorities straight!

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I always knew people would try to rewrite the crash into "actually, people were super happy to be unemployed and broke and were desperately trying to find ways to shovel money at bankers and engage in the Grand Bargain to cut social security, because all Americans are idiot racist rubes'

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Avirosb posted:

Well they didn't succeed so clearly there's something to that.

Not really, it's like coming to the conclusion that money in politics doesn't matter since Clinton spent more and lost. It's pretty facile

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
the thread for arguing that trump is worse than andrew jackson is --->

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I don't give a gently caress about being treated like cattle if I can fly across the country for 200 bucks. Deregulated airlines own

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Jun 10, 2016

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Unbelievably Fat Man posted:

It owns that Ezra Klein can't even use his lanyard to grift his way into Hamilton.

Maybe he's politely saying he doesn't want to see it?

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Who gives a poo poo, gently caress anyone who's not full on for at least M4A

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Any pundit that is against M4A from the right is literally worse than a Charlottesville Nazi in terms of actual lives destroyed or impacted

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

that booker's willing to come out for single payer should be a hint that, like I've been saying, single payer isn't at all incompatible with neoliberalism writ large, which should have been obvious given how other countries have single payer while being part of the same global neoliberal order

Or he could just be lying for convenience because he know it won't pass

And I voted for Stein actually, couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump and I knew a Stein vote would be slightly more morally defensible and equally enraging to the people that post here. It's funny as gently caress that I have a Trump voting reputation though considering I've never said or done that, I guess when you piss off enough whiny libs they just assume you're hitler

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Scent of Worf posted:



Wow she lied even about the origin of her name. This kind of pathological lying is no different than Trump.

Is this actually true? Because I really, really want it to be.

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
If you're not willing to work with people who hate your enemies purely out of spite, give up now. This is America and you will have to acknowledge that group, on either side, if you want progress.

Also UBI is loving stupid and relies on this magical thinking that the people who control all the wealth will just keep us on welfare forever instead of coming to terms with the reality of class warfare like a job guarantee does.

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Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
"hmm I know, maybe if I cede all power and open my mouth like a baby bird, daddy Cuban will feed me and piss on me" lol

And that was my point. Spiteful people are useful allies on the left. We can work with people who hate Hillary more than they love Bernie.

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