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Endless Mike posted:It was not a terrible comic by any means, but yeah I don't know what Marvel was thinking with those covers. It did seem a case of one of those origin books of 'hey, wanna read about your favorite character when they're nothing like your favorite character?'
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Rochallor posted:I am really okay with this development, but I'm also sure that's exactly what's going to happen. There could be a long montage of the ways Peter's been pretty creepy since X-Men Gold started and Kitty coming to her senses, but that won't actually happen.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:16
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Rhyno posted:You know none of the people who bitched about Iceman being gay would say a word because lesbians are hot. I saw somebody get super upset over Kitty having short hair with the Gold relaunch. They were, if memory serves, now 'just waiting for her to come out as trans' as it was 'too masculine.'
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Jun 19, 2018 12:28
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Wheat Loaf posted:As I've mentioned before, I was actually very surprised when Claremont said he viewed Kitty and Rachel as a couple because I never got that vibe, even from Excalibur (and I've read all of Claremont's run on Excalibur). I always assumed he was writing Kitty and Illyana as a couple based on how he wrote them in UXM and (to a lesser extent) New Mutants. I remember during my brief time as a listener of Jay & Miles X-Plain The X-Men how they were going on about how 'obvious' it was and having re-read Excalibur thanks to MU I just... don't see it. Kitty's mostly head over heels for the W.H.O. guy in the early going while he's ga-ga for Rachel who seems mostly oblivious.
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Jun 19, 2018 22:44
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Android Blues posted:The whole thing where Kitty rescues Rachel from the Mojoverse to kick off Excalibur is pretty ship-y, yeah. I think Claremont's on record as saying he wanted Mystique to have been Kurt's father and Destiny his mother. Which would have saved us from a dreadful Chuck Austen story (but I repeat myself) so I would have been all for it.
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Jun 20, 2018 00:03
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I'd like to hope the Emma book is a start putting her back to being on the side of angels, if not Angel himself.
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Jul 23, 2018 00:33
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Wheat Loaf posted:He tried this years ago with X-Men: The Hidden Years, didn't he? Yeah. And he also rather promptly whizzes any goodwill he might have had by dicking around in the Savage Land for what feels like a lifetime.
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Jul 28, 2018 13:33
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The only problem I had with Generation X was seeing Chris Bachalo go from his hyper-detailed style to his more stylized version (which is probably way easier and faster to draw).
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Jul 30, 2018 01:45
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rantmo posted:The worst thing about Ellis' run is that he ignored all of Emma's character growth and development up until that point, just casually reverted her to strip the warmth and humanity that the entire book up to that point had established and also had her adopt British slang because gently caress it why not? She ended up with great stories after that, so it wasn't a complete character assassination but it was so loving dismissive of the book and I'm still really angry about it. Is that where 'Emma is British' comes from? I know Whedon thought that. Also I was always under the impression those Ellis b-tier X-books were mostly him just plotting the books and then handed off to other writers to script and such.
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Jul 30, 2018 03:02
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Android Blues posted:All that stuff was so that anyone could pick up a single issue and follow along. It's from a different era where writing for new readers really mattered, and "writing for the trade" wasn't a thing. I believe this was also a Shooter edict - 'every issue could be somebody's first' - and he wasn't wrong.
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Aug 1, 2018 12:30
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think I prefer Furmanisms over Claremontisms, though. This discussion is over. .. finished!
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Aug 1, 2018 17:17
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Wheat Loaf posted:If Chris Claremont can cultivate a list of cheesy but beloved catchphrases... can I do less?! And they hang over you, like a vast, predatory bird...
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Aug 1, 2018 18:21
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Remember when the Reavers crucified Wolverine to a big X? That was weird.
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Aug 2, 2018 22:43
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Land seems to be slowly moving away from the 'haha here is pornstar and Kurt Angle and I can't draw people actually looking at each other' phase.
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Aug 4, 2018 04:19
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Edmund Lava posted:It was heavily implied, especially during Taylor’s run, but this is the first confirmation. Yost has denied it in the past. Denied what, that Laura wasn't 100% female Wolverine?
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Kelly Thomspon's involved so her parts at least will be at the very least readable.
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Aug 10, 2018 23:38
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Rhyno posted:No I get it's a thing, I was saying that even 30 years ago it was a thing. A friend of mine named his newborn baby girl Logan Arana. As in spider-related B-list heroine Arana? (I'm not judging. A guy at the comic store I used to work at swore up and down he was going to name his daughter Jubilation. Whenever he said it his wife's eyes would go a little blanker.)
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Aug 12, 2018 17:11
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Skwirl posted:Aside from being a comic book reference, Jubilation isn't that that weird, I knew a girl named Hallelujah (she went by Halley). Her parents weren't super religious so I always assumed they were just huge Leonard Cohen fans. It was mostly his insistence that everybody knew it was Jubilee from the X-Men (specifically the cartoon) while his wife would sigh patiently.
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Aug 12, 2018 23:31
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Skwirl posted:Why wouldn't you just name the girl Jubilee at that point, there's a poo poo ton of girls named Khaleesi right now, most of them can barely talk now but I worry about them in high school. Nope. It was 'Jubilation Lee <last name' or nothing. Sadly she was born after I was laid off so I didn't get a proper conclusion to the tale.
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Aug 12, 2018 23:58
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X-O posted:That was the best thing the Phoenix has ever done. Kill him as many times as you like and it wouldn't be enough. One for each family member he's abandoned in some way.
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Aug 13, 2018 20:57
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Android Blues posted:I think what most fans love about the X-Men is not their darkness, but the fact that they're a family who stick together through it all. Also their melodrama, but that's not the same as terrible tragedies constantly befalling them. Like, I don't think all that many people absolutely adore, "no more mutants," or the Legacy Virus, right? They just accept that those storylines happened, but they're not out there raving about them. Yeah, it's the soap opera aspects of it. Love triangles, secrets coming back to haunt them or discovering new ones, etc.
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Aug 24, 2018 14:10
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People were upset at just the minorities of the All-New All-Different X-Men, forget their preferred romantic partners. One very early letter absolutely hated almost everybody new and he wanted Colossus and Storm explicitly to get married and go to Russia and never be seen again. Nightcrawler was to die heroically since he could have no secret identity. Banshee was okay, but he should go back to Ireland and only guest star now and then. Wolverine was fine, though. He should stick around with the O5. So no minorities, ugly people, Commie Pinkos and we're shaky on the Irish.
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Cabbit posted:Also Prodigy is bi, I believe. The only person I recall him dating is Surge.
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Aug 26, 2018 02:43
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Rochallor posted:I don't know if anybody is actually still reading New Mutants-Dead Souls, but it wrapped up this week on a major cliffhanger. After being really iffy on the first couple of issues I ended up really enjoying it. The art is great--Illyana especially--and Rosenberg has a good handle on the voice of the characters. Yeah, I liked it, too. The only downside is the cliffhanger, because I'm not sure we're getting a follow up.
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twistedmentat posted:How is Illyana in it? Did she get her bangs back? Indeed so. She's a lot... nicer than in recent incarnations? Honestly if she joked around more she'd be a lot like her, well, New Mutants incarnation.
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One can certainly imagine Claremont doing exhaustive research in that particular field.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Lol if you expect characterization to stick. Then if it ain't gonna stick, can we get (mostly) hero Emma back?
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Robot Wendigo posted:If I was thinking of picking up an X-Men monthly again, which one would you recommend? Red. And also X-23.
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davebo posted:I wasn't really reading comics when the whole O5 thing happened but why on earth would they just stick around forever? Wasn't the entire purpose to show them how lovely the world got or mistakes along the way so they could go back and do things better? If they just stay in the future isn't that kind of loving up yet another non-616 Earth that has to putt along with no X-Men team? Seems like a really lovely issue of What If? where Magneto just immediately wipes out homo sapiens. Just send them back and then in a year follow up with a series in their multiverse showing what improvements they made as a result of the things they learned in 616 land. I think they were a Bendis idea, on the whole, and with no more Bendis around everybody wants to put their own stamp on the franchise. Which is understandable! Even if it is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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Diet Poison posted:Well Wikipedia still says "Max Eisenhardt" but I dunno if that is the current end-all be-all. I also forgot he has "Magnus" as an alias as well. Magnus used to be as close to we knew as his real name, especially given it was coming from Chuck who knew him best.
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Didn't they do a thing where Doug could read body language and that essentially made him a fighter on par with Cassandra Cain?
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and what about a teenaged ch'od but at that time in his life hes still an egg and corsair is all like 'this is my friend he is an egg'
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In theory I liked young Angel/Laura, but that wasn't going to last and Tom Taylor didn't reference it very much outside of the first story. Which I do get, but it was still a shame. The head-patting scene was fun.
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Can Hot Claws Wolverine fight Bone Claws Spider-Man?
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Is Rachel's codename still 'Prestige?'
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Gynovore posted:Even more so than Stacy X and the other skeevy stuff (Austen really needs to get laid sometime) what really got under my skin was the bit about Nightcrawler being literally a devil. For the past thirty years, Nightcrawler's whole thing was "Yes, I look sinister, but I'm really a person just like you." It was a bold move to take away the whole thing of 'Nightcrawler only looks different, but is as human as anyone and indeed one of the best of us' and replace it with 'NAH HALF DEMON also we will make him pope or something.'
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Gynovore posted:Jumping out of a car doing sixty is a "bold move", just not a smart one. If it helps I meant a bold move in the same way in Dodgeball Pepper means a bold strategy. And since we're on the terrible, awful, no good very bad Austen run, do we mention She Lies With Angels or just keep trying to shovel dirt over it where it belongs? Yeah, silly question.
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Skwirl posted:It's gonna be a thing for like a few months and then be mostly forgotten until a different writer comes up with something incredibly cool or incredibly dumb that they thought was incredibly cool that requires hot claws. It's going to be Wolverine's "The Other." Spider-Man's bone claws were given so little thought I think Peter David literally had a panel where Peter goes something like "Bone claws!? Eh, go with the flow!"
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Nessus posted:Claremont and Davis had a shared sort of breathless-adventure energy which makes a lot of these things work - I'd actually say Davis was better at it since I think he was also significantly less horny, or at least channeled it better. The whole lighthouse/linchpin thing also meant that the hilarious weird random chance made more sense. It's interesting to read the Excalibur stuff that Davis wrote and drew later on. He's clearly having a ball with it. Nightcrawler trying to lead the Technet as the new Excalibur briefly is a delight.
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Nessus posted:The Technet loving own, I reckon, I was so glad to see them in that Rocket mini. I bet they're hard to draw and would slow down productions. I wanted to send Kelly Thompson flowers for putting them in Mr. & Mrs. X.
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