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Pound_Coin posted:Hackney is going full purge atm, they're knocking down a bunch of listed studios/old factory squats to run a road bridge through fish island. I hate seeing this. Bunch of old Victoriany industrial buildings were pulled down in Leicester recently to make way for a bunch of overpriced plastic-and-glass shite. Modern housing developments are often shockingly sterile. Less character even than Brutalist blocks of flats.
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reignonyourparade posted:That's not actually the right thing for the country if you don't actually have the power to not leave and telling Leave to eat poo poo just cements the Actually Leave party in power. What do labour have the power to do again? Got the sense we were mostly being ignored
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Grape posted:Are u guys worried that China is prepping huge huge shipments of opium? Who could worry when that much irony's on the cards
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Glenn Quebec posted:
The closer Brexit get, the more obvious the garbage Lexiteers get. Labour's really got to split to get away from them at this point.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:https://twitter.com/skwawkbox/status/1083878321744691205 If cancelling brexit is too unpopular to be feasible there's no point Labour winning a GE until after Brexit. Winning a GE and Lexiting would leave Labour in power while the disaster unfolds, and we'd end up too busy fighting fires to implement the positive changes we want to see all the while absorbing the blame for the Tory's bad idea.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Oh so it's not just a cunning ploy by evil Corbyn and his band of lexiteers now? It's a real thing you have to think about? gently caress me the world is moving fast but for you it must be incomprehensible. Given those polls could flip next week the way things are right now you sort of have to consider a strategy for every possibility. I don't why you wouldn't explore all the possibilities. The only consistant theme is that a brexit will be poo poo. Surprise Giraffe has issued a correction as of 20:58 on Jan 12, 2019 |
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MikeCrotch posted:It would be better to go through with Brexit and end austerity than the other way round. Brexit will cause far more damage in ten years than austerity has, even if we can shrug off the Tories to undo it without a wider socialist alliance working through the EU.
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MikeCrotch posted:Hard Brexit maybe That's got to be the most myopic take on it possible without actually saying brexit will be fine. Probably the biggest deal will be that the far right's already getting a boost from getting their own way with the vote and the split itself will be even better proof that they can just keep pushing propaganda to divide and rule, both here and in the EU. Everyone really really hopes if we actually leave the EU (whatever that means) the economic damage especially in the long term turns out that limited but the figures that have been thrown around don't suggest that. And apart from the impact on our own economies and the knock-on effect of the damage it will do to the EU as our primary market, we'll all be that much more vulnerable to geopolitical issues and that much less capable of cooperating directly on large-scale development initiatives with better economy of scale. Not to mention the shrinking pool of talent for getting basically anything done. If it is anything less than that you might imagine there's no reason for all the fuss over brexit in the first place as you could indeed fairly easily spend your way out of sub six figure 'casualities', given that austerity has literally been just not doing that. Surprise Giraffe has issued a correction as of 00:56 on Jan 13, 2019 |
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oystertoadfish posted:was there ever serious discussion of using a higher threshold than a simple majority, like 2/3rds or 60% or something? if they'd gotten their slight majority but not triggered any actual consequences i could imagine it being good for them, from the 'increasing racist turnout in the next election' perspective Compared to what? There was always going to have to be some sort of massive anti-racist propaganda campaign after x years of racist propaganda melted enough brains brexit became a popular idea. 2015 went to the tories, if they hadnt called a vote we'd all be cracking our knuckles ready to get stuck in en masse at the ge next year. Corbyn would be in but would have half the party control problems he does now and twice the time to push the economics. You could even be talking about democratic reform to make government more representational to avoid the usual groups being whipped up into calling for horrible nonsense referendums! I want that timeline back Surprise Giraffe has issued a correction as of 21:00 on Jan 13, 2019 |
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I mean the moment we start trying to break up press monopolies is probably when conservatives launch an actual coupe.
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alphabettitouretti posted:I'm not annoyed by the lying, that's a politician's default mode, but I am insulted they put so little effort into this. I feel like triggering lefties must be part of the point of at least some of these things. Its just a blatant statement of gently caress you, we don't need to care what harm we do. Have some PR. I could swear theres a strain of psychological war being waged to demoralise and divide the left atm
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StashAugustine posted:i had been extremely confused because i thought 'backstop' meant 'a border between NI and England' namesake posted:The backstop is the mechanism which ensures there won't be a border IN Ireland. Brexit is also the far right's wet dream: a highly visible success of divisive propaganda over sense become legislative reality through nominally democratic means (a victory and statement of power to swell their ranks), and a recipe for the economic disfunction that so often draws people towards facism Surprise Giraffe has issued a correction as of 21:54 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:If you don't know why people voted leave then you might just be the worst kind of fair weather leftist. They're people who've been eating far right wedge issue propaganda from the papers then social media for decades until that's all that's left of them. Maybe if a government or two had tried economic regeneration anywhere outside London it would have helped but the Daily Mail was never going away. Too late now.
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CoolCab posted:even there you frame austerity as either implicitly an appropriate reaction to downturn - an insane idea and totally ahistorical - or you give up the argument against it without firing a shot. you accept their premise and as such your compromise is innately compromised - I would take Brexit with an economically literate government over the inverse any day. Since an economically literate government would cancel brexit and there will be no election before brexit to vote one in, this is irrelevant Surprise Giraffe has issued a correction as of 14:08 on Feb 4, 2019 |
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Der Meister posted:somebody explain to me for the fifth time why corbyn doesn’t just outright say he opposes brexit...? something another a referendum and will of the people despite the referendum being a bare majority and fatally flawed. ijdfgi Have a read of all that stuff upthread about self-pity and exceptionalism.
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alphabettitouretti posted:https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/feb/13/skint-britain-friends-without-benefits-review-maddening-universal-credit Corbyn will swoop in on the back of Lexit and save us all don't worry
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Barry Foster posted:Theresa May has less behavioural flexibility than an earthworm. If an earthworm is tunnelling happily away and encounters negative stimuli, it'll try to avoid it. But there was a Vote. All she has to do is anything that meets the totally open terms the non-legally-binding-vote the public immediately regretted, set out
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https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1096384360905879552 Uk & Eu neolibs gonna have a loving ball once Brexits through. Its ingenious, really. a) corporate media talks us into jumping off a cliff while up and coming socialists in the EU get domed b) corporatists feast on the dying and dead Surprise Giraffe has issued a correction as of 11:17 on Feb 16, 2019 |
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logikv9 posted:Are you guys dead or what why do you insist on prolonging this Long gone
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Londons going to end up with such a boring skyline. Honestly would it kill them to do the newer ones with neat shapes and patterns too. Maybe we can multi colour them or covered them in plants once the bottom falls out and it all becomes worthless.
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Obliterati posted:You say this but his skills with fiction are already well-known, this is the guy that got found in contempt of Parliament for his report on the last talks His voice reminds me of the mole in John Le Carre
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Falcorum posted:London fucks off into the sky. ...But remains part in the EU
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julian assflange posted:Cross posting from the UK thread. someone buy it Makes the Houses look a bit like they have an orange Onion Dome (not that that wouldn't improve them)
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Economy so hosed literally any extra consumption is a boost. Nice.
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Jose posted:Unherd is the magazine of alt right/idw member Douglas Murray who really, really hates muslims Look like that guy is a neocon rather than a nazi fwiw
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Jose posted:he's a nazi Im not sure why you chose to illustrate that comment with that particular article. Praising salvini for trying to appease both the left and right in Italian politics does not make someone genocidal, noisome as it may be.
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Jose posted:oh you're one of those people who gets pedantic about use of the word nazi What about people who like to blur definitions until they can shift them to suit?
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Jose posted:he inherited like £300m Love these tweets showing us Remain people are bad and not good like not-remain people or specifically Corbyn fans! It's important the Truth about Remain gets out!!
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galagazombie posted:So Labour's strategy is to literally become Brexit. We finally have a definition of Brexit. Labour is Brexit and Brexit is Labour. Corbyn has achieved enlightenment and become the physical manifestation of Brexit on Earth. Look you have to stand up to the right, even if it means appeasing the far right so that the right will definitely vote for you, a definitely leftist party
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Bryter posted:They are appeasing their own voters, not reaching out to the far right. 52% of the UK is not far right. Dennis Skinner is not far right. Brexit is a right wing idea floated by the right, rocket-propelled by the far right and mindlessly iterated by bits of the left
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Toplowtech posted:Can we start egging the people who ask for a third referendum if (when) brexit win again or is the UK a milkshake-only nation now? Why, would losing again make any appreciable difference at all or something
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Norton the First posted:lol I'm no MList but you guys are so boned you may as well start a vanguard. What happened to Corbyntum? 
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PRESIDENT LADYCOP posted:Maybe I have grossly misunderstood UK politics, but isn't Corbyn a "euroskeptic" and committed to abiding by the referendum, to the chagrin of both Blairite and leftist remainers? So, like, if people want a Brexit on socialist terms rather than a hard-right Brexit, they can just vote for the Labour party? So they're voting for the Brexit Party because they are, in fact, right-wing? (Unless they have the same brain worms as Phil Greaves?) Brexit is right wing politics that will be taken as a victory by the right and demoralise the left no matter who implements it. A bad idea that will hurt people cant suddenly become an idea thats good for people just because the left took ownership of it. And were not going to beat the right wing in a general election by promising right wing policies. They will just come up with more for us to appease them with.
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Vitamin P posted:I voted Labour and that came up before, unless you are Sensible Centrist Guardian-posting that Labour are neo-fascist hellfuckers you are misinformed. You are right, there are also morons too gormless to tell when they are empowering them
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Jel Shaker posted:there’s absolutely no way that there wasn’t tactical voting to knock Gove out of the running Both bj and "hunt" are far more terrifying than gove could ever have managed. Bj is more headstrong with his stupidity than gove, unt is pure evil and you can tell just by looking at him, never mind everything hes said and done
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Vitamin P posted:wtf is a bill yankee
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