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ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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Carecat posted:

What's some entertaining critical videos apart from Hbomberguy?

If you're looking for more "Actually thinking about video games" like Hbomb does, I like Noah Cadwell-Jervais, when I can get pastless than stellar mic quality and the occasional cough while recording.

They're longer videos usually but he's got some shorter ones talking about DLC. I recommend these as good starter ones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaqqCbmhqVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kivtv6wabBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pcDAjTBfcA

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ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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OSI bean dip posted:

You have to remember that when Eripsa was wanking about the Polytopolis that he pretty much said that he wanted to tell minorities and low-income persons to butt out. He doesn't give a poo poo about social problems but instead his make-believe ones.


I'm really glad after saying he wanted to improve Eripsa decided to stick to his guns and focus entirely on the make believe "What would do if robots had anything even close to sapience." aspect of technological growth and the proliferation of automated systems throughout production instead of any of the actual real social and economic issues that spring from this that heavily affect actual real sapient and sentient beings (because they're poor and thus not as relatable to Eripsa as his fantasy robot future dreams).

No seriously, snide comments aside Eripsa, the fact that you can see all the issues rising up from the increasing amount and complexity of machines and choose to ignore any of the real actual pressing issues affecting living beings and instead focus on weird vague futuristic flights of fancy paints both you and your arguments in a really Callous light, especially given everything about your previous few brain children that had similar problems.

Your argument, in that video and in all your previous 'works of genius' can be boiled down to "The internet and robots and future tech will fix society.....somehow because all those things are good and I like them so we need to base everything on them in these vague terms I've set up." I get you like your tech, that's neat, but gently caress off with this garbage where you ignore actual active issues because you yourself haven't experienced the struggle. You just come across as every techbro libertarian stereotype.

Also you should probably make a thread for your robot rights movement cause it'll take over this thread otherwise.

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ZenMasterBullshit
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The No Fap movement is great because it inherently exposes the stupidity and sadness of the the people that preach and practice it. "God I'm pathetic and weak and can accomplish nothing. All I do is crank it. I need to change something in my life to get better." and they decide it was the masturbation that was the core problem with their ennui/loneliness.

ZenMasterBullshit
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business hammocks posted:

Someone posted this in the thread, and since I recognize Carl and Blaire White (?) I'm assuming the rest are rationals too:



It's a really fitting legion of doom parallel for the superteam because I only recognize two of them and they have their own lovely downscale lair in an IHOP.

It's really hosed up that Boxxy turned out to be super lovely.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Refried Hero posted:

Scientist who wore the shirt covered in half-naked ladies to announce some space thing, iirc. You know, the one who got totally deserved criticism and had people point out that it was poo poo like that that drives women away from the field.

And the Gulag he was thrown in was people in the public saying "That's tasteless."

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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New Contra is out and hits so close to home I wanna curl up in a ball and not exist.

ZenMasterBullshit
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BigRed0427 posted:

Edit: Speaking of which. Did anyone see Contra's new video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayuqizp4fyY&t=615s It's more of an art piece about how gender dysphoria affects them. It's super loving good and hits me in a few places.

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

New Contra is out and hits so close to home I wanna curl up in a ball and not exist.

Yeah no it's....accurate at least.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Pembroke Fuse posted:

Yo man, friends do that all the time. Just friends being friendly. Friends also eat each other out all the time as a gesture of friendship.

Just two besties going halfsies on an double ended dilz. No big deal. I do that with my roommate all the time.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Rumda posted:

About that...

Avery Brooks sacrificed his mind to be one with the Jazz Force and I applaud his willingness to go that far for his art.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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Guys remember when we ended the nazi empire in the mid 40's? Remember how non-violently we handled that? Man those fascists really gave us a go but a stern stance of "Well I disagree with you and will debate you." sure did end the active violence of their fascist regime.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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Monglo posted:

You know what methods did this Nazi "empire" use? Violence. So are you disagreeing with their goals but agreeing with their methods?

Y-yeah? Like if someone who cannot be 'logically persuaded' to not be a bigot and to cease their active campaign of violence on oppressed people (or even their active pursuit in doing so) there's not much else to do but respond in kind. They're not going to listen to 'reason' because their beliefs aren't built on it but a systematic and aggressive hatred that isn't going to change quickly if at all.

Sorry if that is somehow news to you.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

maybe starting off with the ISIS beheading videos or the softcore porn videos would be a good start

but its the alt-right shitlords who are the real menace :rolleyes:

Lmao you think a titty on the internet is comparably bad as ISIS beheading videos or Paul "Stolen Ancient Valor" Whitesman telling kids 'No blacks aren't people and women should have no rights and Transgender people are mentally ill and deserve to die'

ZenMasterBullshit
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Groovelord Neato posted:

i'll never grasp how armoured skeptic found an audience. his voice is terrible.

Same way people like Gorilla Mindset, that guy that pepper sprayed himself and Carl get them. You ability to speak and you ability to make a point eloquently don't matter at all when you're pandering to the dregs of the internet, all that matters is your willingness to say whatever hosed up poo poo they want to hear.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Midig posted:

gently caress, I gotta take it all back. This is not the only example, is it?

No idiot there's his entire catalog of videos. Dude started out by screaming about how he was gonna rape someone or get raped and throwing around poo poo like 'human being' like it was nothing.

This is news or shocking to anyone with an undamaged brainstem, gently caress off.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Some game devs deliberatly put some clause in their eula about promoting hate speech and can invoke it in a case like this so hey might just have a case on that alone.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Avenging_Mikon posted:

Joe, I'm impressed. Stuff like this is why I can't hate Rogan, even if I think he's dumb.

It doesn't matter because he's just gonna do the same thing again and again over and over. Duder doesn't make any attempt to better himself so the whole "I'm just an idiot" act is more malicious than honest.

ZenMasterBullshit
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little munchkin posted:

Joe Rogan pretends to be an idiot but he's actually playing four-dimensional chess and his endgame is making fun of various war dances

Nah I'm not saying he is pretending to be an idiot, I'm saying repeatedly saying hosed up poo poo because of your idiocy and never really educating yourself is not demonstrably better or all that different from just being an rear end in a top hat which is why I don't give dudes like Rogan a pass.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Ytlaya posted:

The thing about blaming "black culture" is that it's ultimately the exact same thing as claiming either biological inferiority or that things are a result of systemic/structural issues. Like, if they're behaving differently there's gotta be some reason for that. Since they deny the latter, that only leaves the former.

Yeah the only real difference between Sargon's 'Black Culture causes black people to suffer more and prosper less.' and the typical alt right of 'Black people are inherently inferior to whites and their position in society proves that' is that the former is a dog whistle. It means the same poo poo, it just looks and sounds slightly more acceptable if you ignore the context, and the intent, and the meaning of the words he's saying. It's being said to and for the same audience. It's why Sargon gets so many Neo-nazi and alt-right viewers. He might act like he doesn't want them (See him sending them gay porn on twitter) but all his talking points are tailor made to appease them.

And since Sargon is a massive idiot with no real self introspection he doesn't stop and wonder 'Gee, why DO so many Nazi's like my opinions and videos?'

ZenMasterBullshit
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boner confessor posted:

better yet please tell me in detail what sargon of akkad has contributed to society and how society would be worse off if he stopped making videos, thanks

I mean, I'd have less to laugh at.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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Grouchio posted:

I have a bad feeling that the reaction to Pewds' most recent racist comment is going to spark a witch-hunt that turns Youtube into a nanny-state site.

Corporations shutting down people from using their IP is literally the opposite of a nanny-state you imbecile. This is the free market at work. Companies don't want their project associated with (explicit) racists, especially ones popular enough where the second they reveal they're gross bad people everyone in the world would know.

The only hosed up part of this is that it took this long for a company to do this with PewDiePie because the guy has always been a horrible person.

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ZenMasterBullshit
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Refried Hero posted:

Please explain to me how streaming/let's plays are significantly different from things like rifftracks and mst3k in the form of entertainment they provide.

Rifftrax (Usually) don't include the actual IP/video that they're basing their commentary on in the thing that they're selling/marketing to people. It's kind of the reason that the IP owners have a legal leg to stand on at all and why LP's have always been kind of a weird legal grey area because no one wants to be the first bit of case law and lose one way or the other.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Who What Now posted:

Oh no, racists and bigots will be made to feel unwelcome on YouTube. How awful.

I said it earlier but also LOL at the idea of corporation flexing control over the IPs they own having anything to do with the State. Grouchio you're a dang dingus.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Lightning Lord posted:

Adventure games, text and graphical, were a very popular genre in the 80s and 90s mostly focused on solving puzzles, experiencing a story and talking to characters that was usually non-violent. It basically launched gaming on the personal computer

And their direct descendants, the Visual Novel genre, is kind of re-surging among indie developers, especially Queer or other minority ones. Many of them play/expand on the format in ways that develop the games beyond 'A book with pictures'. There's tons of games out there without aggressive violence as the core gameplay hook, you just have to look a little deeper into the medium than a surface level gaze.

I recommend Christine Love's work (Digital: A Love story, Analogue: A Hate Story and its sequel, and Lady Killer In A Bind) for fantastic games in that genre. Also check out We KNow The Devil and that studios upcoming game about Mecha pilots at war as a framing device for a story about 'the relationship we develop in conflict' HEAVEN WILL BE MINE.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Archer666 posted:

Dont forget the internet is populated with idiots whose opinions could be written off as jokes due to their absurdity, except then you find out they're serious.

Actually PDP's entire fortune should be ripped from his hands and given to the needy, both because he's made an absolutely absurd amoint of money yelling about wanting to rape something for children on the internet, more money than he'll ever need and the rich must be destroyed for the good of the world, but also because he's a loving awful person.

I'll admit this though, we can ignore him for a bit because Notch still has more money than god and does nothing but try to make friends with twitch streamers by donating to them over and over and spends his carefree life of absolute luxury harassing Queer people and women on twitter and trying to apologize for the actual nazi movement that sprang forth from creepy gamergate losers like himself.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Archer666 posted:

*Shrug* Dude worked (as with most streamers, I use this term extremely loosely) for his money, so I don't think its fair to take it away from him. Even if its yelling about rape to kids (Kids like stupid edgy crap). Now cutting his options to make even more money due to his actions, that's something that I'm okay with.

Notch can die in a fire, though.

No. eat the rich, he's still a hosed up dude who says and does racist poo poo a lot and is just a dumpster fire of a human being by all accounts. It's kinda dumb to defend him the agree on my points about Notch because all the same poo poo applies to PDP.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Archer666 posted:

Right. I'll break it down then: I think PDP and Notch have a right to the money they legally earned by doing the work they did. They're dicks and need to get their poo poo together, but they still have a right to what they earned.

Yeah I know you think that, and the fact that you think any single individual should have over 2 Billion dollars is pretty hosed up, IMO. Like you could tax Notch 99% of his net worth and he'd still have enough money left over to be one of the riches individuals on the planet and live more comfortably doing nothing than anyone else that has ever lived.

They deserve nothing but the riches to be torn from their hands, namaste.

ZenMasterBullshit
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fallenturtle posted:

These criticisms of PDP and Notch seem to be more criticisms of capitalism since its capitalism that allows for them to be paid what the market thinks their work is worth and not what their critics think its worth.

Yes. I directly stated such in an earlier post. Thanks for catching up to the conversation

Mr Interweb posted:

Your feel good article of the day. Apparently, wingnuts are finding it difficult to sock it to leftist, anti-free speech platforms like Youtube because nobody wants to follow these douches to specifically tailored alt-right platforms:



http://www.businessinsider.com/far-right-tech-platforms-gab-youtube-bitchute-2017-9

More at the link.

Can't wait for them to all make the move then the website to fall apart because lol libertarian/right-wing guys can't run websites for poo poo.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Guavanaut posted:

:heysexy:

Math people can be giant introverts with weird ideas about how the world works, or just ignore social decorum entirely, but you don't usually see them claiming to be self made or that purestrain take the brakes off libertarianism is a good idea.

You of course get a share of Old White Man Has Opinions, but less so than the sciences or humanities, especially for pure mathematicians, it's very abstract from any social issues at the higher levels, nobody's going to be saying "all non-cyclic finite simple groups have even order, which is why the races shouldn't mix."

I'm a Math major and 90% of the mathematicians I know are Chill ladies or older left leaning Eastern European gentlemen who just want to have as little hassle as possible and talk about hosed up stories from their childhoods and why Math modelling is bullshit.

ZenMasterBullshit
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noether posted:

ikr. contra's only been on estrogen for like 3 months and she's already the stunning trans queen of youtube. I've been on HRT for like a year and a half and I'm still a dorky loser. this sucks. :argh:


I'm not even on HRT yet and I was jealous of her when she was 'just a crossdresser'. Contra too hot!

ZenMasterBullshit
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Woah woah waoh everyone step back, I've read a wikipedia summary on this, I'm basically an expert.

ZenMasterBullshit
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fallenturtle posted:

Is there a point you feel isn't conveyed via Wikipedia's plot summary or did you just want to fire off a snarky quip?

Yes. Literally all the book that isn't in the summary on wikipedia. It turns out literature is this thing that uses its whole to talk about a moral or theme and generally speaking if there was so little of value or thought that you can get a whole understanding on the subject with a 2 paragraph summary it wouldn't have been a book in the first place. I'm hoping you're doing a gimmick because it's pretty sad that you don't understand how books work.

ZenMasterBullshit
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ft do yourself a favor and stop reading wikipedia and buy a book.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Ahahah Did he draw that ContraPoints as WH40K demonette fanart?

Holy poo poo this dude's trying to smash.

ZenMasterBullshit
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Somfin posted:

He's been making videos about Sarkeesian for actual, literal years at this point.

How did he fail to check the info in all that time?

I think by 'he' Interweb is talking about ContraPoints, not thunderfoot.

ZenMasterBullshit
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ClancyEverafter posted:

It seems pretty wild to label Singal a TERF when he's going to all that work and writes lines like "In the long run, we’ll be better at this stuff — we’ll be better at understanding how to best help gender-dysphoric kids grow up to be confident, happy adults, whether they end up trans or cis, gay or straight or bi." I don't see it.

He says this to disarm critics because he immediately follows it up with poo poo like "Actually gender conversion therapy is good and cool for trans people and transgender people are all sick in the head and it's better for them to just stop."

ZenMasterBullshit
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Josef bugman posted:

Seriously? It's some fairly minor ribbing and it makes people feel this uncomfortable? Sorry about this folks, maybe it's because I don't get a lot of pushback against talking through these ideas, socialism etc, in real life that I don't get it, I do apologise.

I don't think it is to "bring round" the centre-right, though it probably helps, but it is more there to point out the old problem of "We need to examine ourselves a lot when we do things".

She spent a few days on twitter ranting about how people weren't making good faith attempts to actually change nazi/terf/alt-right rear end in a top hat's minds because they too busy being mad and reactionary towards assholes because she gave an interview to a writer whose entire catalogue is very very focused on trans issues written like "Now I'm not saying Trans people are monsters and all crazy and need to be fixed but what's so bad about forced conversion therapy for trans kids? I'm just asking questions." While I understand she wants to make some outreach to actual alt-right shitheads since she used to have a lot in common with them and she herself made that turn, there's also a danger she flirts with a lot of legitimizing awful people and arguments that are indefensible elsewise. A lot of people brought this sort of thing up, but any critism of that was shot down by it getting lumped in with a tiny minority of legit crazy shouting internet assholes not making good faith arguments towards her decisions. This is what makes the constant 'ribbing' seem a lot less like haha jokes and more like actual disdain for people that thought "Hey maybe letting yourself be used as a prop to legitimize a TERF rear end in a top hat who spends his other articles fixated on forcing trans teenagers to just stop being who they are isn't good" while simultaneously making her more assholish characters (The Nazi, the terf) seem quaint and upstanding compared to the loud, obnoxious, childish leftists she often portrays. She mimics a lot of actual alt-right talking points about the left in these dressing down and it it makes the whole thing feel very skewed.

Her last few videos kinda sucked, is what I'm saying

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temple posted:

I understand what you are saying. You understand what I'm saying. We disagree what supporting means. In what situation would be acceptable for her to engage conservatives? Where Contra wouldn't be providing some form of support with her presence?

It's probably somewhere well before "Appearing and advertising for an event that isn't even an actual debate but just a Q&A to raise funds for reactionary groups that aren't even official clubs on campus."

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selec posted:

. And eating the soup means they get to say "we've even got trans people on our side!" or "lol traps" but they don't get to say both.

Nah you stupid gently caress they'll just do both because when it comes to the issues of non-white non-cis non-straight people the right are never ever ever EVER making any good faith arguments or talking with any real moral or political core. It's all resentment and hatred and bigotry and you chose an example where they're doing exactly the opposite of what you assume ;rational actors' would do. gently caress off.

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fallenturtle posted:

I think perhaps her issue is that when it comes to talking with the right she doesn't give that many fucks and so its easier, but with the left she has to walk on eggshells, otherwise *points at Twitter*

Lol she went out of her way to straw man leftist Twitter complaints in her last video. She's not walking on eggshells about anything.

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Goon Danton posted:

Which one is he, again?

Guy who is polite to trans people but published dozens of hand wringing articles about if we're going too far in accepting trans people because what about the CHILDREN and advocates for conversion therepy for trans kids cause it's less harmful than letting them go on as trans.

He wrote a glowing puff piece on Contra and when people pointed out "Hey that dude's hosed up!" she ignored every telling her their experiences with him and defended him saying "I know what a TERF looks like he's not a TERF cause he didn't misgender me in his article."

Which kind of the start of The Troubles Contra's been having with the trans community.

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