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BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Sorry to the dudes I dropped out on while playing as Azmodunk tonight. Somebody literally walked right into my house and I absolutely had to deal with it : /


Also I don't mind any of the maps yet (only started playing again a week or so ago). Is the hate because the more specialized maps create situations where certain teams/heroes are poo poo?

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BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
I was surprised they nerfed Maiev, since she didn't seem too bad when I played against her.

Then again, I did think she was actually a high damage bruiser rather than an assassin.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Well, I feel like if you can’t or won’t play all three basic roles (tank, healer, damage) you shouldn’t be in unranked. Similarity, if you are playing draft mode please make an effort to pick your character based on what the enemy picked and what your team needs. I feel like half of unranked players just slam the character they want to play independently of what’s been picked. That’s what QM is for 😵

I can’t overestimate how much this bothers me. If you are first or second pick, pick a tank or healer unless there’s a solid reason to pick something else.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

draft modes complete all quests regardless of what role or universe you play

Oh I know. The discussion was regarding somebody who preferred not to play certain roles. I use draft mode for mass quest completion myself, I was just saying you have to be prepared to play what your team needs. I do still think in most cases the first picks should grab a tank and healer, as I believe they’re less easily countered than other roles. Then your last two or three picks can be used to better counter the enemy. Just in general, I know for example LiLi would be a good support to counter pick against the enemy sometimes.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
I’m glad that it seems the quick match auto select bonus xp is available more, but it’s a trap because “auto select from favorites list” doesn’t actually work. I own every hero but Orphea, but I’m certainly not proficient with all of them. I keep optimistically trying to play auto select from favorites, but it never uses my actual favorites list. I even have every class represented in my favorite heroes, so as to fit into any team composition.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Elysium posted:

I got a healing quest as my first move in the new board game event thing.

So, in other words, I'm never getting anything out of this board game event thing.

Just do your quests in VS AI :p

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

bamhand posted:

This is really dumb IMO (Blizzard, not you). Giving people assassin quests and then punishing them in queue for it.

Isn't that a little silly to say? I mean you can complete those quests in VS AI, or unranked draft, or ranked draft.


I know this game has some issues but I feel like some folks are making excuses to criticize it.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Rexicon1 posted:

Video Game Suggestion: Just get rid of team chat. It has never produced anything good and it is a tool exclusively made to release rage in a video game. 50% of my losses recently have been because we are doing ok but struggling at times and then some dipshit goes all in flaming on a healer or something and it turns into a playground fight and I want to die.

Haha I hate when the game is winnable but somebody does or is perceived to do something dumb, and people trip over themselves to poo poo on each other and go on tilt. I'm sure we've all seen someone be like "ok how about if I do EVEN WORSE" and proceed to play at sub-AI levels.

My biggest problem with this game is a mixture of this issue and people just being really terrible. It's frustrating when somebody sucks, but at least you understand (I play on an ancient laptop and very much suck because of that). What is completely intolerable is when somebody has no map awareness and is never in the right spot, and then ignores you or gets salty when you try to correct them (even benignly). Nothing is more discouraging or unfun than knowing you are going to lose because select individuals on your team aren't even trying.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
This is kinda sad, I hope the game doesn't really die. I always loved their old games (Starcraft and BW, Diablo I II and LoD). SCII and DIII were pretty fun except for a lot of stupidity regarding the plot and characters (particularly Diablo III, watching Adria's obvious betrayal over and over was tough). This does all seem to add up to Blizzard not being what it once was. I don't think HoTS will ever GO AWAY though, right? It's a free to play game with some of gamings most recognizable and popular characters. A lot of people have invested time and money into developing their roster and aesthetic items, will they really just leave? Could support for the game every stop?

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
My brother just made a good point: HotS is the "casual MOBA", why would losing the Pro scene be that big a deal when it's a moba for casuals? I mean, I certainly haven't ever watched a game of Heroes or paid attention to the e-sports side of it... And from what I've seen, the player base is at large even worse than I am. So there'll still be a player base! The same bad players, sure, but I bet my MMR goes up!

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

lucifirius posted:

They're also removing developers from the game team. Meaning fewer changes, fewer hero releases, and good luck having the game be something fun.

Being a "casual" moba is what kills this game.

You say "good luck having the game be something fun", but obviously you already do not enjoy this game. I believe within the last few pages you actually said you'd given up playing. If I still enjoy the game, having less updates hardly hurts my experience. I only just started playing Mal'Ganis and Orphea yesterday, and I would have waited longer if I wasn't trying to get those sweet sweet holiday drops.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

ToastyPotato posted:

If HotS was the casual MOBA, they would be making so much money that they wouldn't be making this announcement. Fortnite is the casual BR. Overwatch kinda was the casual FPS for a bit. HotS coulda been THE casual MOBA, but weird balance, expensive microtransactions, and a glacial development pace prevented the casual scene from emptying their wallets into the game like they have elsewhere.

HGC alone matters because it means the complete collapse of online content creation for the game, which means fewer people being introduced to the game over time, which means fewer new players and even less money. There are also many players that felt in some way invested in the pro scene, mostly as fans, but some even as hopefuls for the scene. Those players will likely leave as well. Fewer players means a further drop in quality, which means even fewer players and even less money. That all adds up to a dead game. That is to say nothing about the fact that they are planning to work on the game even less going forward as is.


Another thing to add is, of course there are going to be some people who say none of this matters. The important thing to note is that your willingness to continue playing means little in the grand scheme of things. I can probably find 100 active players for some legitimately dead 10 year old game if I try hard enough. Perception is everything and right now the perception is already shifting toward the game being a sinking ship. As people leave, it will force more people to reevaluate their feelings as queues get longer and matches get worse. This isn't the first game in the world to experience this. You are welcome to keep playing and enjoying it, but understand that your personal enjoyment has no effect on the longevity of the game.

Good post, I don't disagree with your points. I do feel this thread is reading rather like "welp uninstall now", when in reality some of the people saying this were already saying it before news broke. I guess I'm just not in a hurry to actually HASTEN the inevitable demise.

I WILL get every hero to gold and I will NOT go back to Last Hitting. Not EVER I'll fight you all!

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
It must be awful having the rug pulled out from under you in regards to your livelihood or dreams, yes. Personally though, I find the concept of e-sports and professional gaming is very much harder to grasp than even physical sports, so it's difficult to feel an outpouring of emotion over this. I'm assuming there are so many variables when you attempt to make a living playing a game... you rely on other players, people wanting to actually watch you, and of course the fact that your entire livelihood is based on a product owned by a company that is not going to be placing you very high on the priority list. Skills that you can carry on to other work are probably negligible, aside from knowledge of maintaining a presence on the internet, and name recognition limited to that same line of work.

So while I sympathize with those who got this bad news right before the holidays, it doesn't feel particularly surprising or tragic.

Before I'm accused of being a fanboy, if I have any bias it's certainly less defending Blizzard (my Blizzard is dead :( ), and more that I'm out in the rain and snow digging holes and hauling soil and rocks for work, so perhaps that unfairly tweaks my perception of people who play internet games for a living.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

The REAL Goobusters posted:

Its hard for me to believe anything you say ever since you revealed you were literally 1k MMR in dota

Haha that dude said people go as far as following him into other threads to hound him over DoTA stuff, and that prophecy has been fulfilled. I'm really bad at all games and most things but that doesn't stop me... let the people shitpost! :justpost:

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
This thread and USPOL/Trumpthread are like the two threads I watch the most on this website.


I don't think I like them merging.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Maybe unchecked capitalism causes a lot of problems in our society and the world, and also it's a bad idea to stake your loving life on playing video games when you know that opportunity could dissolve at any moment?


*edit* again not that I don't have sympathy for those people but the "I quit school to play these video games who's going to help me" cause is not what I want representing my fully automated luxury gay space communism future.

BRJurgis fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Dec 15, 2018

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Midnightghoul posted:

Also a bad idea to stake your loving life on the stock market, real estate, college education, physical storefronts, manufacturing work, websites, journalism, social media, game development, streaming, living in a city with rising housing costs, having health care,

So I guess gently caress everyone then, what a bunch of morons

For one thing, yes.

For another thing, the reasons Esports is not entirely a reasonable or sustainable idea for your sole and primary source of income has kind of been covered. I'm not saying "LOL gently caress those idiots", and most people aren't saying that. I would like to know what the alternative is though, charity e-sports jobs? Guaranteed video gaming career? I know I'm being flippant but go ahead and give me your real answer maybe I'll like it.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
I think there are some extreme views here. Maybe some of you can stop laughing at somebody's misfortune just because they took a video game gig*, and then we can all pull out of USPOL's orbit.


*Until they start a gofundme. Then we can laugh.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Relin posted:

i think part of what killed the game was the talent system from the get-go. i can queue for qm right now, which has mmr, and people will still be picking bad/wrong talents. you'd argue that my mmr is low, but i could do the same in league of legends and people would still be buying the right item builds for their hero at least. it's hard to gently caress up an ad carry's item path. so the community sharing builds never really materialized (partly due to lower popularity since the game came out so late to the genre) which in turn could not bring in a larger player base.


I think on the best heroes there are multitudes of viable talent combinations based on what you are facing, which I like. That is more fulfilling and engaging when you are building your character to counter the actual enemy team you're facing, though it makes it more difficult to have a grocery list of picks that don't need to be weighed.

There are definitely a lot of heroes I always pick the same talents on though.

Ditto on the "how can people be this bad" too.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

WITCHCRAFT posted:

Played Tychus for the first time since coming back. God drat is the Minigun on-hit quest good. Not only does it let you shred enemy hero HP for the entire duration of a teamfight, it also goes DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING as you shoot them. Those dings are high octane gamer fuel injected straight into my brain. I can't stop. gotta shoot the guys and go ding ding ding.

I'm a bad, bad man.

Sometimes I absolutely clean up as tychus, and sometimes I feel like I may as well just give the AI the wheel. Unfortunately I'm not good enough to determine what factors drive those outcomes. Stands to reason since I just slam ARAM every time.

But yeah that quest noise is straight mindless exileration, and his AA and D build are hilarious against stitches Diablo or etc late game. I know I'm doing good if their tanks start loitering in the backline.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Hadn't played in quite some time, but logged on and its still fun to have a smoke or drink and just play ARAM. It can be fun even if you get crushed (unless you're a healer or tank), just pew pew and get those satisfying casino noises kith mentioned. The more heroes you are familiar with the more fun aram is, and the more you play aram the more heroes you become familiar with.

Plus it's a more interesting way to get every character gold (lvl 15), less tiresome than doing them one at a time IMO (might depend on sobriety level).

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Come play this game, there's still /SAGoons channel to group up. Independant of that, there are a bunch of chill people playing still, growing list of people active for ARAM and sometimes QM groups. ARAM is getting competitive with more veteran players hanging around (and less new I assume).

Ngl sagoons channel not often populated, but that's why I'm writing this! Just add everybody you group up with (that you like) to your friends list.

BRJurgis fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jan 6, 2023

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Pretty rad folks. I have more free time with winter (sort of) being here, finally got 1000 gems for a month boost, and a big friends list of (usually) chill folks who like ARAM and sometimes QM. Gonna play HOTS a lot I reckon.

Add me BRJohnson #1911 I don't care if you suck and most people I play with likely don't either, we frequently coach people in game on builds and techniques for a character they're not familiar with.

As long as you don't constantly make noise on an open mic!

Shockeh posted:

This genuine, wholesome post made me reinstall.

I played one game, immediately ran into the stack of Aba/Li-Ming/Brightwing/Gaz, remembered all the reasons why I stopped.

:) :(

The average skil level seems to have increased quite a bit (predictably with less new players and increasingly adept veterans). This is good for your teammates being capable, but bad for effortlessly schooling red team chumps.

Also I see people I know more and more frequently on the other team, and that can be quite funny and competitive. I nova'd into a match against a genji who is known to me, long story short he is a dog who knows no honor or decency!

BRJurgis fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jan 7, 2023

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Macaluso posted:

Yeah it's a bummer. I tried to play League with a friend who was into it but I just absolutely despised the last hit mechanic, and I hated the shop mechanic. HOTS streamlined everything so nicely.


cmdrk posted:

exactly! and it made everything teamplay based instead of hard carry

Yeah! I have some inarticulate criticism about a few of the (regular mode) maps, but the core gameplay is way more fun and accessible to me. I don't have a powerful computer, accurate last hitting timing is tedious and frustrating.

And it's all these characters from games I like (in some iteration).


NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Joined SAGoons as well, in-game name is Fitz. HotS has been my go-to for something to play while listening to podcasts for years even if it's only quickmatch and ARAM, I'm passable with most characters.

:rockon: :gg:

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
I never see "all one hero" in Aram anymore, but multiples is still great for some picks. Melhisto and gazlowe in twos or threes is so demoralizing as to be OP (after lvl 20 in gazlowes case)

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Ever since I spent my gems on that boost and resolved to play every night like a second job, suddenly I see a lot more toxicity. People being like "kick them they suck I won't play with them", or being dicks about a party member's talent choices. I feel like it's somehow my fault and I apologize.

I swear, before I had a boost people were friendly and helpful!

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
If I solo queue aram and we don't pick a tank or healer or w/e, and are getting crushed, yeah at 8 mins when we barely have a fort and a 1:3 kill ratio, I want that poo poo to be over. Don't wanna rage against who picked wrong, just a next game thats better.

It's a bad tendency I don't want to give energy to, and when I'm in a five-person group I don't need to. Im getting bonus xp on a team with (usually) chill people.. I do hate seeing that tendency to point the finger at the weakest link or whatever though. If somebody is like "kick them they suck", well...

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Goon solidarity. If you are bad, all the more reason to group up go ahead and ask questions.

Getting crushed isn't fun, but if you want to mindlessly grind out ARAM win rates... that's just crazy. Go play storm league.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Can we get a thread name change to "turned down for what?"

New bug turns down voice comm volume for party members randomly, but also frequently.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Chakan posted:

After a couple weeks of getting the occasional "1 hero for everyone" ARAM, I can tell you the worst by far was Maiev, and the Murky one was probably best. We've also done Probius (awful, as soon as one team is losing they will lose the game, just very slowly) and Cassia (fine, staggering deaths is probably the only way to actually lose) which wore out their fun about 10 minutes before they ended. The matches aren't too frequent, so it's not annoying, but that Maiev one was so painful I almost went AFK.

Ahaha yeah that checks out.

I'm so happy they brought back all 1 char, even if 40 minutes into all probius or kael'thas I'm ready for the next match.

Seriously, it's awesome and I have a hard time not baiting the people who complain when it happens.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Sometimes I feel bad for exclusively playing ARAM. I miss out on builds and playstyles, and I've forgotten what it's like to see or play leoric. I do kinda miss it.

But an organized 5 person team doing draft is a little more competetive and serious than I get about HotS these days. Can't imagine how long it takes to get that match started.

Anything less than that though? Somehow not competitive enough! QM especially is some silly poo poo with less than 5 people. I can't be bothered to worry about lanes and map objectives when our team is the whole goddamn circus and there's almost no communication or organization.

When I do try non-aram I either pick somebody who can inpendently push and do camps, or somebody like Nova. And I'll still run into that awkward situation where I'm really not sure where to go or what to do, the one that never happens in ARAM.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Issakhar posted:

I got sucked back into this again after few months, mostly ARAMs like everyone else, still my favorite MOBA since Dota but I'm gonna drop an unpopular opinion:

Same Hero ARAMs suck, like really really bad, they devolve into unfun slogs that last 35 minute or more! (All Murky uuuughh)

I am glad it happens sometimes, and don't want it removed again. That said, yeah some of them get old before they're over. Plz no more all probius for awhile, I'm getting worse not better at it.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Started the day with a solo queue qm as healer to complete quests. If you're gonna solo qm, healer seems the best idea, even if your team sucks as long as you follow them around and heal its not your fault when you inevitably get crushed.

It was of course quickly an inevitable loss, but thankfully only took 15 minutes. I was glad to get back home to ARAM, but it was an all Illidan match. I don't ever play him so I was expecting the worst, but my teammates gave helpful talent advice and I was able to get MVP as we swept red team and dove to victory!

Illidan was actually super fun, but I suspect it's because there was no CC or blinds. Sweeping strike talents made him great in the team fight dog pile, using his leaping dive to position or escape.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
I love murky... when I'm playing butcher or artanis or alarak and such.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Thread losing the match, unevenly focusing murky.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
I hate all kael'thas mirror so goddamn much. Only thing that will make me just turn my game off and do something else. Even my stupid time is worth more than that.

It doesn't help that I don't enjoy or excel at KT. Only time he's any fun is when I go living bomb and red team is completely loving stupid.

I honestly like the mirror matches, it's a fun random occurrence, but something about all KT actually almost gives me anxiety. The urge to just get up and leave is overpowering.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
Aram is so awesome that I don't have the patience for a quick match. Like if it's not a 5man with somebody calling stuff in voice, aram seems better. So it's OK how casual or high or even dunk I may be.

It forces you to learn all roles and characters, and experiment with talent builds. ARAM is where you learn to play and pick characters because it is where you come to know them best!

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
I feel I've made this same post in the past, but I'm constantly bewildered that people play quick match and even storm league without a 5 man, and without somebody calling out moves. When timing, composition, and teamwork are so critical, going into qm or SL all half cocked just feels a frustrating waste of time. Even if you win!

I consider myself casual, and not a great player (and rarely a sober one). So I hope this doesn't sound judgemental, but I wonder if people do it simply because they just want to be a specific hero, or aren't knowledgeable about enough heroes to play ARAM.

I remember before ARAM existed carefully picking (or drafting) synergistic heroes, and having a knowledgeable teamate call out moves in comms. Anything less seems like playing chess blindfolded.

Just feeling like a weirdo for nope-ing out from groups that wanna QM. I swear I'm not a tryhard!

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BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Kevin Bacon posted:

we just go your test results in. i'm afraid it's bad news: yore a tryhard. i'm prescribing you a course of electrolytes

No tryhard, no tryhard!
You're the tryhard!

I don't know, i only play ARAM because it seems like the casual mode...(typically) shorter matches, constant action, no map awareness or larger strategy necessary. What's the point in playing full map moba with objectives and poo poo if you're just gonna gently caress around and pew pew?

I guess I can understand if you're a specialist (xul or aba or naz) and just push lanes while your team does whatever. Still, communication and teamwork are basically the point of a game like this. It's just so strange to me that people queue up to just gently caress around I guess. ARAM is the ideal place to just gently caress around and blast fools.

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