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Last thread I posted about UQYLNP being batshit and wanting to reintroduce sedition. Buzzfeed picked up the story."Queensland Uni Liberal Students Want To Make It Against The Law To Criticise The Queen posted:The University of Queensland Liberal National Club has passed a motion calling for the reintroduction of sedition laws in Australia that would make it a crime to criticise the Queen.
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# ¿ May 1, 2017 02:37 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 02:38 |
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What would that even leave Fairfax? Canberra Times and a few local websites?
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# ¿ May 7, 2017 06:57 |
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Bogan King posted:Looks like the ALP are getting in trouble again for not being diverse enough. Makes you wonder who votes for these clowns. Honestly, it's super valid criticism and something we're not doing enough to address in the party. We have some spectacular people of colour elected in subnational levels, but we consistently preselect middle-of-the-road white professionals to winnable federal positions.
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# ¿ May 8, 2017 06:27 |
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starkebn posted:Qld was trying to have a very similar conversation, about the power of the party to bind elected representatives, at the State Council meeting last weekend. It wasn't pretty. Even just writing the advice on this was ugly. I'm reallllllly happy I wasn't at State Council Sunday. Just getting the frantic messages was bad enough.
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# ¿ May 9, 2017 06:55 |
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hooman posted:Budgetchat: yes, yes we understand housing is "unaffordable" but what about, bear with me here, we make it EVEN MORE expensive?
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# ¿ May 9, 2017 07:31 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Presumably a first home savers account with favourable tax treatment. its like a reverse HECS, except instead of borrowing money from the government to pay a corporate university, you give money to the government to pay a rich person. everybody wins.
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# ¿ May 9, 2017 07:39 |
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G-Spot Run posted:I'd happily live in an apartment but they don't make them in family configurations, just penthouses. Same. I'd jump on a 3/4 bedroom with a decent kitchen and some storage space. I don't need extra bathrooms, or giant bedrooms, or any of the bells and whistles developers throw in to make their shitboxes sell before people realise they'll fall to bits in 20 years.
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# ¿ May 9, 2017 10:01 |
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Aesculus posted:The solution is probably to adopt the Queensland method, since Queensland has the best Greens state MPs and no internal drama out of them yet. and by gum we will continue to be the best (worst) branch.
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# ¿ May 10, 2017 09:40 |
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Bogan King posted:14 for 25 against removing abortion from NSW crimes act. gently caress. even Queensland was going to have a tighter vote than that (if it hadn't been withdrawn).
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# ¿ May 11, 2017 04:44 |
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open24hours posted:You can still buy fancy ashtrays and lighters despite plain packaging, so I doubt that aspect of it would go away. That said, I think the proportion of weed smokers who are interested in that kind of thing is a lot lower than you might expect. Most people keep their mouth shut and try not to be an obvious stoner. Yeah. It wouldn't be that hard to open an Off Ya Tree or Happy High Herbs next to a dispensary. I'd rather the dispensaries be sterile. Hell, we could make it that you could only get tobacco at dispensaries too. I've never really gotten the attitude of some that we should ban tobacco. Greg Proops of all people had the best defense of tobacco, as the last personal freedom of the working class - the last ounce of control over their life, destiny and body. It should be legal and available, but just out of the hands of exploitative marketeers (same goes for gambling tbh)
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# ¿ May 11, 2017 07:02 |
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I just nearly got thrown out of the Senate. Building that AcTiViSt cred. (I got cautioned for politely applauding - loving hardcore, yo)Anidav posted:It's kind of amazing that Bill Shorten is boring as gently caress but his speech writers are dynamite and loving hilarious at tearing the Coalition to shreds He wasn't actively poo poo in person. It was actually a pretty energetic room. But you're right. His speechies are wasted on him. Should have got Penny to do the budget reply.
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# ¿ May 11, 2017 12:00 |
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Aesculus posted:If the Greens really wanted to be/were a middle-class centrist small L liberal party half the thread would be either sallies or labor voters. Yeah. If anything it's kinda gone the other way as more and more disgruntled lefties move to the Greens. In my experience, the older "original" Greens are vaguely centre-left but largely just care about environmentalism and a few NIMBY issues, and the newer generations are various shades from cosmopolitanist to democratic socialist. The shift to Parliamentary professionalism isn't linked to an ideological shift per se, but a shift in the backgrounds of the Parliamentarians, staff and OB from being environmental activists to largely socio-economic activists. But this is annnnnecdotal.
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# ¿ May 11, 2017 12:26 |
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Lid posted:That isn't true of the NSW branch whose origins lie not in environmentalism but in the old Communist Party. Its why they stick out like a sore thumb. Everything I say about the Party has a big ol' NSW exceptionalism caveat. Moving from QLD to the ACT really made the differences NSW has into light. Now that I have to regularly meet their OBs and be the brunt of their emails. I read a couple of really good papers on the history of the Greens - I can't remember if it was Narelle Marigliotta or Stewart Jackson who wrote it. But they highlighted the origins of each Branch had insane amounts of influence until recently. Not just NSW's communist roots. QLD and Tasmania were both hardcore on-the-ground environmentalists, while WA sprung from the nuclear disarmament movement and Victoria and SA from community legal and health advocates. Queensland also had the conversion of the left of the Australian Democrats which changed the culture a lot about a decade ago. Kafka Syrup fucked around with this message at 12:36 on May 11, 2017 |
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Cartoon posted:The NSW Greens aren't Stalinist enough IMO. Well I think they aren't enough Bookchinite. I guess we better split the party.
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# ¿ May 12, 2017 01:22 |
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Bogan King posted:Labor are attacking the Greens for dealing with the Libs to cut private school funding [SMH] Turns out the Imgur app autopublishes uploads and I just got a bunch of abusive comments. Good stuff, imgur. Kafka Syrup fucked around with this message at 10:37 on May 12, 2017 |
# ¿ May 12, 2017 10:20 |
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Box of Bunnies posted:The only moral voting with the coalition is Labor's voting with the coalition. That's because labor is pragmatic but holds real values in their heart and represents real workers but makes comprises necessary for government. Greens are secret lizardpeople.
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# ¿ May 12, 2017 10:43 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Apparently they're a good degree if you want to be hired by ASIO. Especially if you did a language. Also just good as a stepping stone into a postgrad qualification you can use to be actually hired. My Humanities degree saved my Uni career. Straight Law was giving me crippling anxiety and depression, and picking up PolSci and Gender Studies really fleshed out my knowledge of the law and its impacts (and helped guide my later elective choices). Humanities also got me involved in the "university lifestyle" and lead to me joining and running clubs, being involved in stupol, and meeting new people on campus. Ironically, it was my Humanities degree and not Law degree that lead to my graduate jobs (although I wouldn't have got them without Law as well since it turned out that both were way more technical roles than the hiring manager realised). So yeah. Humanities are super important and my dream when I'm old crotchety and rich is to set up a scholarship for kids from disadvantaged backgrounds to do a soft Humanities degree. I grew up super-working class and even Law was a stretch for my parents to let me do. bowmore posted:humanities can get you a job, the rhetoric that they can't is part of the same reason they are axing them Definitely. The soft Humanities are great generalist degrees and there's always work in Education, Academia or Policy. The hard Humanities have heaps of career paths.
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# ¿ May 13, 2017 02:18 |
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BBJoey posted:maybe i'm being naive but the schools proposals seem reasonable? i am not particularly swayed by the cries of well off catholic schools that they're losing money I'm drawing on the analogy of enterprise bargaining. The Unions, Labor and the Greens have had an agreement to pursue the funding levels under the original policy as the baseline necessary to maintain our public education system. This new proposal, while including a bunch of positive peripheral policies (like cutting private school funding), represents a position far lower than the base claim. It's just poo poo solidarity, and staying off the AEU (and their branches) poo poo list is essential to maintain our public image and future bargaining positions. Especially when Labor gets back in and we want to push more radical education reform and need the AEU to back us in. It's playing the game of politics, sure, but the alternative is what SHY put out: technocratic, "truth is in the middle", middle-class nonsense which is just gonna piss off the working class more and more. Hopefully this is a short sharp lesson to the Party Room that the Rank and File can and will pull them into line if they step over the line too far.
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# ¿ May 15, 2017 00:58 |
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VicGoons! CryptoParty is running "Privacy for Organisers of Actions, Events and Movements" seminar tomorrow. If you're interested in keeping your data safe and not exposing your comrades to raids and exposure, I'd suggest chugging along.
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# ¿ May 15, 2017 03:20 |
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Lid posted:QandA tonight will feature loud protests so thats going to be a thing. By whom and against whom? Every person on that panel is a current heckle risk. JBP posted:What is the theme for tonight's episode of Unwatchable poo poo Factory? Birmo, Bowen, Larissa Waters, some hack from an industry association, and an academic from ANU's Tax & Transfer Policy Institute. I'm assuming it's going to be "Gonski 2.0" and budget recap?
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# ¿ May 15, 2017 05:44 |
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Bogan King posted:Counterpoint Good point. Privitise the Police. Nationalise everything else.
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# ¿ May 15, 2017 06:50 |
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I'm not gonna cast aspersions on any SA Greens MPs, but I really miss Rob
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# ¿ May 16, 2017 06:44 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:What I don't understand is why the Greens hang on to her if it is that obvious. Are there any internal moves to get rid of her once her senate seat is up? Optics. It'd be a very public falling out and it would look like we're turfing her for political gain. Plus "the Greens aren't like the major parties" bullshit is still prevalent among members (see "the Greens don't have factions" or "we put policy over politics")
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# ¿ May 16, 2017 07:06 |
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Anidav posted:Actually they will get re elected. But not for any substantial reason. and nothing of value will be learnt that day.
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# ¿ May 18, 2017 02:29 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Drink more water Counterpoint: drink more piss. Refine it.
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# ¿ May 19, 2017 01:39 |
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Dylan isn't even getting trolled which I hope means NSWYLR members actually feel shame for this. Only Laborites in any of the comments are NSWYLL pissed at the Right for voting down their motion in the first place.
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# ¿ May 22, 2017 00:23 |
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JBP posted:Carlton Draught is good poo poo you bloody wankers. Carlton's the least offensive basic tap beer and my go to when I'm at country pubs. Quite a few still have Boags Draught or Kosciusko which are alright
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# ¿ May 26, 2017 00:48 |
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Jonah Galtberg posted:her horizontal stripes game has a way to go though She's not a good person or a good politician but dang that is a dope jacket.
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# ¿ May 29, 2017 23:11 |
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asio posted:Nice Sustainable Australia party propaganda. Better, not bigger, comrade. So Cam's nomination's public now?
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 06:10 |
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loving hell. I'm working on technology-facilitated abuse legislation now and little sewerdwelling dickknuckles like Bond send in their little loving letters and post their comments all the time. If you want a laugh, check out one fella who wrote a letter to the NSW inquiry. Not only should girls stop taking nudie photos, those drat brownies should stop doing crimes. What an amazing and progressive country we live in. Box of Bunnies posted:Full matriarchy now drat it lowtax why can't we like posts yet.
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