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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Interesting choice of theme, how long did those shops take?

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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

So naively one might think "ooh welfare bashing too hard, lets bash the tertiary sector to save money instead" with this budget but it looks more like as well as revenue continues to shrink and the remaining cash is spent on missile defence and shunting federal departments around the country. How long can this go on?

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Tanya Plibersek is calling the "new" Federal education funding a 22bn cut, and merely "taking out the trash" for the Budget. The head of the Fed Education Union is mad too.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

G-Spot Run posted:

Do you reckon it's cos he took a turn that wasn't as severe as initially thought, or because the meeting kerfuffle made him realise everyone is betting on him carking it?

Practice, and the fun of panic. Regime change must be planned for.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

It does look like the work of someone more used to depicting Clive Palmer than Donald Trump :v: I think you're right Parma but its more a sell to their base that they're "culture jamming" those lefty idioms. They probably think they're hilarious and don't understand the response at all.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

In the interests of review and comment, I'm going to excerpt a bit of John Safran's new book Depends What You Mean By Extremist. A little setup is required: firstly, Neil Erikson suggested to Safran that they form a mock rap group called Jews With Attitude, givng Safran the moniker of Ice Berg and how this was going to totally upset lefties and actually went ahead and made a picture of himself, Blair Cottrell and Safran and flogged it on Facebook for the lulz. Safran also reported on a Golden Dawn rally in which Unionists beat up a pub of fascists including an old Greek guy. So those references explained, here is a quote from a section called Mrs Sneer and Mr Snort:

John Safran posted:

There are more hot anarchists than I expected here. Don't get me wrong, there are also flabby radicals who wouldn't be able to throw a Molotov cocktail without breaking into a wheeze, but still. The Melbourne Anarchist Club, a converted shopfront along a busy road, has thrown open its doors, inviting the community to show solidarity with them. It's a response to the UPF recently rolling up to the cluband thugging around.

'So I hear you're starting up a rap group?'a woman snaps as I walk in. It's the day after Neil announced his plans for JWA. She's leaningagainst a bookshelf, flags from different struggles draping from the wall. 'I was going to ring up andvte for you to be part of the boy band.'

'Ha-ha'I say. She doesn't join in with my ha-ha.

'What's your role in all of this?' a young man asks. He's sitting inan armchair. 'Are you part of building an anti-racist movement or are you just about books and selling and career and profile?'

'I don't think it's good for my career and profile that I'm seen to be in a rap bandwith the UPF, you know?

'It's quirky,' the woman sneers.'It's, you know, whatever.'

I explain that to write stories, I hang out with all sorts of people from all sides.

'They are arseholes!' she says. 'They are using you and your profile to try and humanise themselves!'

'You think there's no use in a writer--'

'Making them just seem like funny Aussie blokes?'

'Maybe it's helpful for people to know that dangerous people have charisma,' I blurt. 'That dangerous people get crowds not because they're cartoon villains,but because they use their charisma to get people on board.' I'm happy to back myself on this matter.

'But what are people to do with that information?' she complains. 'We have to have a collective response to this. We need to build a movement!'

I find out that the young man in the armchair has been seething about me - or at least something I wrote - long before JWA were trying to sign up Ice Berg Safran. He was not a fan of my article about the Brisbane Golden Dawn rally. He reflects on my story with a snort. He felt it was a smart-arsed effort to equate far-right violence with left-wing violence, when the two couldn't be more different. He says far-right violence is a form of 'structural violence' (that is, part of State, corporate and systemic violence), and left-wing violence isn't. And furthermore, my 'comedic' story contributedto to this 'structural violence' by equating the two.

So the men who bashed the elderly Greek guy after the rally didn't engage in anything problematic, but the comedian on the scene who wrote about it did. In fact the comedian was the violent one.

The Sufi held a similar view in regard to the Charlie Hebdo attack. The psychopaths - the ones who should really take a good hard look at themselves and their actions - were the dead guys holding the pencils.

It occurs to me that Shermon quit the UPF in response to a piss-take. So for all three points of the triangle - the far right, the far left and radical Islam - piss-taking is a threat that needs to be kept at bay. People might start listening to the jokes.

Another thing occurs to me: What's wrong with interrogating violence, even if it's 'non-structural'?

I tell them I'm just interested in different things to them. 'I like looking at tangles,' I say.

'Like what?' the woman demands.

I remember the 'Talmudic son of a bitch' message from last night. 'Like that sometimes Muslims, who suffer Islamophobia, are anti-Semitic.'

Snort. Sneer. Like the Sufi, she argues there are power dynamics in play. There's not meaningful anti-Semitism these days, she advises, in the way there's meaningful Islamophobia. I tell her about the recent bashing of a local Jew by two men screaming in Arabic, and that the Jewish community centre in my neighbourhood is getting a $1.3 million 'blast-proofing' security wall after a terrorist plot to blow it up.

Just as Santa has his Naughty and Nice list, Mrs Sneer and Mr Snort have their Structural Violence and Non-Structural Violence list. Alas for the bashed Jew and the community centre employees, they've only made it to the Non-Structural Violence list. That's the side of the ledger where the violence isn't worth interrogating.

The woman pushes a pamphlet at me. It's advertising the counter-protest to the Reclaim rally. It calls for people to show up at the steps of Parliament House. 'Are you going to promote us?'

I, of course, know something she doesn't: that the UPF won't be at the steps. They'll be an hour's drive away in Melton.

'How do you know they're going to be there?' I dangle. (I might as well tell her.)

'Reclaim called a rally,' she hisses.

'Are you sure they're going to be there?'

She groans. 'So what part are you going to play?' and rolls her eyes.

'I'm in the UPF rap band,' I squeak. 'You'll see me up there scratching records behind Ez-Eric and Dr Fash!'

The woman huffs off.

'There are no casual observers,' the young man in the armchair tells me.

'Deep, man. Real deep,' I sulk.

I head to the little bar area. The anarchist selling the beers wears a T-shirt saying 'Hello Titties', with Hello Kitty's cat head redesigned to look like breasts.

The book is full of such uncomfortable exceptions from the broad pigeonholes we all love to indulge in.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Konomex posted:

I don't think the institutional issues within the Catholic church have been dealt with.

Reminder that these people feel threatened by the science they use everyday.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Solemn Sloth posted:

he sure uses a lot of dumb libertarian talking points as examples in that case

It's specifically refuting libertarian points. They literally don't understand how societies work, let alone governments.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Well cautious praise from some on catallaxyfiles.com

libertarian dingbat posted:

It’s not too bad, fairly steady and the first budget to show whisps of the coming age of nationalist populism.

I’m not sure why people melt down every year anymore. Canberra is a full blown communist state and is out of the people’s control, this simple truth that is discussed to death seems to surprise people anew every day. Like that movie where that girl gets bumped on the head then forever more wakes up every day and forgets what happened the day before.

A budget like this is as good as it gets until we have a major political realignment and Trump style revolution in this county.

But everyone else is very, very unhappy. Abbott won't believe his luck.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

AgentF posted:

All the papers are entreating that this is a Labor budget but I don't see that it is. Seems more to me like it is a coordinated effort to just claim it is a "Labor budget" so that Labor would look awfully obstinate if they block it in the senate. What's Labor about it?

The LNP Right benefit from this narrative as much as the media who are overwhelmingly right wing. Only a neoliberal would regard public heathcare as a 'totem'. For the political media, ideology is just as important as cash, one affects the other.

Literally raiding the piggybank for revenue demonstrates how completely cornered the government is, yet somehow this will work because wages will magically rise. They'd better, because unemployment is staying where it is, and interest rates will definitely rise at least to cover increasing inflation, and this levy. Which makes me wonder if raising interest rates wasn't​ also an indirect goal.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

racing identity posted:

Permanent financial ruin seems a tall price to pay for having bad opinions

Counterpoint: as a demographic they're the biggest drain on the economy so let's see some balance.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Lol Daisy reduced to an MRA cheerleader.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

JBP posted:

Voting for the greens is a pretty big dumb waste of time and energy. Hope this clarifies the mistakes the young people itt have made politically

Yeah it's not like ALP have made dumb decisions, let's do whatever JBP says :troll:

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009


Sing along with the common people
Sing along and it might just get you through

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Work all day, live on hay
Get your pie in the sky when you die.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

I just started on a myrepublic nbn internets (first wired in 10 years) and the modem's okayish, but unfortunately the local junction is only giving me 30/5. However, going from 300k/s to 3.4m/s is a big enough jump for now and I have to hope they'll improve.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

NTRabbit posted:

FttN "NBN" turns on in my area in 10 days, I should be able to get 60/20 based on the map, but Whirlpool rightly calls it Node Lottery. Big improvement on my 400k/s, I'm in an area Telstra did on the super cheap in the 80s, lowest grade of copper, all sorts of short cuts and half baked ideas.

Ya that's basically what the NBN guy said. I'm actually closer and should get better speeds. Also the physical topology can be bizarre, like being next to a node but going hundreds of metres away to the junction (what's the jargon for that these days?)

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

https://twitter.com/KetanJ0/status/865135721853497344

Truly viral.

The tax scandal probably hits half the Canberra political class, I expect they will all pull together and help us forget there ever was a lovely Budget. Certainly Laura Tingle's excuses on Late Night Live raised an eyebrow from me.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Schlesische posted:

And yet magically, his approval ratings aren't that crash hot.
The last poll was in March (so it's a fair bit out of date), but 2pp shows LNP winning handily.

Luckily, it's not like PHON have any sway here.

If the evidence is Murdoch rags playing up a ReachTEL poll, I'm not playing along. Is there a Newspoll/Essential/Ipsos?

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Dude McAwesome posted:

Oh cool, someone who has profited massively from mining giving away some of the money they could never hope to spend.

Why the gently caress is Twiggy Forrester so prominent outside of "has lots of money?"

What's the angle here? Looking to run next election? Gunning for a knighthood? (lol, gently caress off Tones)

All robber barons give fuckloads to charity, it's how they literally signal virtue. Better Than.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Peter Cousins, father of BeautifulDaisy, played Menzies for a speech to an LNP dinner including Howard, Abbott, and Turnbull.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

OK which one of you upset that nice Mr Chris Kenny?

https://twitter.com/Johnnismoke/status/866975373522722816

https://twitter.com/chriskkenny/status/866975624287592448

for once it wasn't me :v:

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Turnbull presser right now: "We need to be more agile than our enemies..." :ughh:

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Solemn Sloth posted:

Thank gently caress I rolled a monk not a paladin

:golfclap: It is a bit like that today, the scrambling of the MSM to provide Australian angles is so desperate they're even interviewing Julie Bishop stumbling over the same tired phrases again.

e: Turnbull's actual phrase is worse but I had the sound off on the TV and read the ticker: "We need to be as agile as our enemies, more agile than our enemies".

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Coroner has defined the Lindt siege as a terrorist act, and has plenty of criticism for police, not least that Feds effectively withheld critical information that might have prevented escalation from State police.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

When doing the dumb thing is easy and vote-winning, why would the West actually try to fix anything? Particularly if the freed funds were to be used for actually bettering living conditions and not lining their pockets.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Lid posted:

Quadrant aint retracted poo poo. Article is still up.

Nick Cater on The Drum promised to make it a priority and was definitely going to question Windschuttle how it was possible to put it online. What they have done is block it from ABC staff.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Look at this angry old white man

https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/867612668974161920

respekt mah authoritah! :v:

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Sharri Markson in the Year of Trump 1 posted:

There’s a strong argument that the ABC should not have an online site at all.

What made me laugh was the insistence that Michelle Guthrie somehow has direct control of the intertubes to make sure ARE TRAFFIC DOESN'T GET TO DESERVING MURDOCH BOOMERS. Which is really the point, it's there to stir up dumb old people and give them new talking-points which hopefully overwhelm the twitters etc.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Bogan King posted:

It's nice to know that useless raids are still going on. I remember getting turfed out of a clubs in the Cross back in the day :corsair:

It's almost as if they don't want anything happening in the CBD unless it's the casino :iiam:

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Does Daisy Cousens have political aspirations beyond "bad columnist/talking head"? Like, I've seen her name mentioned on the periphery of Young Lib bullshit for a few years in a manner that suggests she's important in some small way but I can't figure out if she actually does anything or if she's just a ~personality~

Her dad played Menzies at Old Parliament House at the Libs commemorative event the other day, which suggests she's been around that toxic mob since childhood. It would explain the attitude as well as the useless Young Libs talking points. The way politics goes, she probably imagines she could be an MP, it would be fun to see her try.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Anyone else getting mailouts from Fed ALP members asking to sign a "petition" vs the Budget to mail back? Mine is tailored to my electorate but looks like an excuse to get me on their database. It refers to http://www.lisachester.org/2017_budget but wondering if this is going on elsewhere.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

GoldStandardConure posted:

If it comes with a reply paid envelope, print out an image of scrunt and post it back.

Sadly its a two-sided reply (which is super dodgy to have one's details readable to anyone) with a tear-off top. The online petition is even more blatantly trawling for personal details. :itwaspoo:

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Yeah no one in the 70's-80's was in any doubt about what apartheid was. TBH the patchy sports responses had a stronger impact on opinion than the foot-dragging by the global community. There was also the music community's response which is fairly lolworthy by today's standards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlMdYpnVOGQ

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

aejix posted:

What does it loving take before the police/legal system is actually forced to do something?

Prediction that nothing will happen unless the majors feel safely firewalled off the implications that they do it too. There are plenty of things that go on that should be investigated but aren't because someone's getting paid to ignore it.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

So on abc24 they've been arguing about the 90m response time to a bomb scare at an airport, given the security theatre we've been exposed to for 16 years and the money we've thrown at them and all the legalese why the gently caress can't they organise themselves better?

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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Wheezle posted:

Why does Pauline Hanson always sound like she's absolutely livid about something and trying to retain composure?

Because she assumes we're going to rofl at every stupid thing that comes out of her mouth and her assumption is correct. Which is just about the only correct assumption she's ever had.

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