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starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Follow minimum rules to get Centrelink benefits: bad

Follow tax rules to avoid paying billions: nothing can be done

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starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Bogan King posted:

How about we just give those poor people $2,500 payments in cash every quarter and let them improve the quality of their lives a bunch. This way we can feel good about helping people and it isn't costing us any extra money over what we're paying now for this crock of poo poo.

wash out your dirty mouth

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

I love both of these together

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Bogan King posted:

That pic is a screenshot of what Ludlam was replying to so they do kind of go together. NSWPol deleted the tweet though because it's ok to hide evidence if you're a cop.

I'm saying I love the humour of the police post, and I love the response from Ludlam too

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

free market baby :discourse:

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
maybe we should just let them destroy Domain though, after that try and shut them down

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
christ, someone post an ad for one of those dilapidated 25m^2 townhouses in Sydney that sell for $1m plus

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

a mature response

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Periphery posted:

Doesn't that just excuse being ignorant of the law? You can't intend to commit an offence if you don't know it's an offence.

I also thought ignorance of the law was no excuse

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

thatbastardken posted:

mens rea or the guilty mind only applies to your intention to commit the offense, not knowledge that it is an offense. also it doesn't apply to strict liability offenses, where it doesn't matter what your state of mind was.

so it's the difference between something being criminal and something being a different type of offense?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

thatbastardken posted:

in old common law stuff and some of the time in criminal codes a criminal act has two distinct parts, the act and the intention. you have to both do the thing and intend to do it for it to be criminal. you don't have to know you're committing a crime, you just have to know what you're doing. ignorance of the law remains (mostly) no excuse.

some offenses - often but not always serious crimes - fall into a category of 'strict liability'. it doesn't matter what your intention was, so long as you carried out the act.

thank you for explaining, but how did Tudge not know he was releasing a persons details which is clearly not right

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Bogan King posted:

Caleb still trying to be relevant with recycled hot takes

https://twitter.com/TheCalebBond/status/861374087762919428

affirmative action now for all elected positions of government. Shall men and women take turns running for election or have to share the job 50/50?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Aesculus posted:

Greens update: Parliamentary right in NSW is now openly defying the membership's decision making and boycotting the party, instead crying to RDN and the federal right to impose top-down MP leadership control. You heard it here first. Now don't go leaking it to the arsetrayan

Qld was trying to have a very similar conversation, about the power of the party to bind elected representatives, at the State Council meeting last weekend. It wasn't pretty.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

thatbastardken posted:

were you at state council yesterday? or do you just read the minutes?

I'm a delegate

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
time for a voting block

splits bro

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

you're the person his thread didn't know it needed

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Anidav posted:

So what snag Bifauxnen and inspire me hard enough to renew my membership and we can go to the on together?

Sir, are you having a stroke?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
haha, now I want to know who they are

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

hooman posted:

Sounds like we have a gay dead forum quorum.

:golfclap:

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

why do you keep posting the same picture?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

NTRabbit posted:

Melbourne to Adelaide to Darin is standard gauge, Perth to Adelaide to Sydney is standard gauge, that should be enough to settle it; the rolling stock wouldn't need to share lines with metro systems anyway.

whose standard?

starkebn fucked around with this message at 12:08 on May 9, 2017

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

sensible

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Anidav posted:

then the welfare payment becomes managed by the JSA which has the power to dictate what you can and cannot spend it on.

What the actual?

We know by now how great the ethics and decision making practices of these places are right?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Solemn Sloth posted:

_________________________________/


at least FDotM is getting more succinct lately

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

JBP posted:

Real talk: drug testing welfare recipients is off the loving hook and must be a violation of something.

The Greens aren't going to be quiet about it

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

NTRabbit posted:

Which Green splinter groups? The Greens, the Real Greens, the Provisional Greens, the Continuity Greens, the Green Liberation Army, or the Green Liberation Front?

Watermelon Greens

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

BBJoey posted:

i agree, opposing bad things that only affect a small number of people is a bad idea, which is why hitler did nothing wr

she's not-so-slyly making GBS threads on the idea

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

BBJoey posted:

i was referring to foolish_fool's post, not jacqui; i didn't notice the post before mine

:thumbup:

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

JBP posted:

Already had four conversations this morning about how people get tested for drugs at their work, so why not test welfare. It's just Common Sense.

well, all those safety concerns for people who can't find work right?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

JBP posted:

Office workers get tested for drugs at a lot of corporations that also employ blue collar workers to make it fair, so try again.

they still may be affected in performing their duties correctly, so try harder. I guess safety wasn't the correct way of putting it initially

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
there's also the fact receiving welfare from the government to prevent further social problems is not equivalent to selling your time and skills to an employer

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

JBP posted:

Labor budget.


Lighten up buddy, I think we all get it.

:c00lbutt:

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

NSW Liberal MP Peter Phelps has compared the State Government's healthy canteen strategy to sex acts, suggesting students are being told that oral sex is "OK" three times a week but sausage rolls can only be had once a semester.

I imagine you'd have to suck a lot of cocks to get fat from it

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

at least they're showing evidence based reasons behind their policies for screwing students

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Anidav posted:

If you get four demerit points in six months you’ll enter a three strike “Intensive Compliance Phase” and will:

- lose 50% of fortnightly payments for the first strike;

- lose 100% of fortnightly payments for the second strike;

- have payments cancelled for four weeks for a third strike.

At any point, if you get offered a job and don’t accept it, your welfare payments will be cancelled for four weeks.

any word yet on how you pay rent or bills once they cut your payments?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
how the gently caress is that even a worthy NTNews front page?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Anidav posted:

It's a very Labor budget! So maybe it's safe to vote Liberal now!

Some jedi mind tricks in these opinion pieces I swear.

they sure are working together pretty hard to forge that narrative

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
http://www.betootaadvocate.com/entertainment/cocaine-dependent-liberal-staffer-says-drug-testing-welfare-recipients-well-overdue/

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
How do you make them accountable though? All I can see is threat of disendorsing them, and that's poo poo for the party.

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starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
the big problem I haven't sorted out for myself is whether people vote for the party or for the candidate

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