ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Lol

MysticalMachineGun posted:

I'm wondering if after the 2014 budget not getting anything through if Unis aren't too worried about this one.

I feel like back in 2014 I'd already received emails from the VC that things were going to be fine, we'll work through it, blah blah but nothing so far with these announced cuts.

Schlesische posted:

There are plenty of tradies who never got ATARs who would never vote One Nation largely because they're mostly really dedicated to the idea of voting Liberal.

hooman posted:

This schools funding announcement from the libs actually seems ok.

I mean, yes it's less money than Labor's plans were but still it seems to be very light on intentionally kicking the poor. What am I missing?

Anidav posted:

That it will go to the schools who need it the least?

The Arsestralian posted:

Malcolm Turnbull risks a revolt in the Coalition’s base after ditching the political tenet that no school would be worse off under ­education funding changes and embarking on a gamble to introduce “genuine’’ needs-based ­resourcing.

In a move that creates losers and alienates the Catholic schools sector, the government announced the funding for 24 independent Catholic and private schools would go backwards, a further 353 “overfunded’’ independent schools would have a lower share of funding and 9048 schools would receive more resources.

The federal government’s changes will see it almost double its federal school funding to $30 billion in the next decade, including a $2.2bn injection in next week’s budget. The money will be tied to reforms designed to reverse Australia’s 20-year academic slide and return the nation to the top of the global rankings.


The Prime Minister and Education Minister Simon Birmingham yesterday attempted to outflank their critics by appointing David Gonski — whose name has been co-opted by Labor and education unions to push the case for more school funding — to review how to spend money to improve student results, in a review dubbed Gonski 2.0.

Mr Turnbull has tempted a backlash with the Coalition’s voter base, particularly Catholic families, as he seeks to “right Labor’s wrongs’’ by implementing needs-based funding and “bring the school-funding wars to an end”.

John Howard guaranteed non-government schools that their funding would not go backwards, recognising that Catholic schools in outer suburban and regional areas, in particular, catered to average families who wanted choice with low fees. Labor’s Gonski model did not unwind the levels of funding the Catholic system historically had received because Julia Gillard promised no school would be worse off.

Former Labor leader Mark Latham, who was accused of stoking class envy when he created a “hit list” of overfunded schools during the 2004 federal election, said last night the biggest problems in education now were teacher quality and academic standards.

Mr Turnbull said the funding changes would end Labor’s patchwork of 27 inconsistent agreements and “ensure that students with the same needs will be treated exactly the same in terms of commonwealth funding — no matter which state they reside in, or the school system they are being educated in’’.

The government refused to identify the non-government schools that will lose money but the Education Department previously has identified overfunded schools including Sydney’s Loreto Kirribilli, St Ignatius College Riverview and St Aloysius’ College as well as Daramalan in the ACT and Melbourne Grammar.

The government will fund 20 per cent of the Schooling Resource Standard for government schools, up from 17 per cent, and 80 per cent for non-government schools, up from 77 per cent this year.

The changes mean that schools will transition more quickly, over 10 years, to their appropriate SRS, the funding benchmark at the heart of the Gonski needs-based funding principles. The reduction in funding for schools will be about 2 per cent or less a year until they reach the benchmark.

Mr Latham last night criticised the use of Mr Gonski, saying “the worst person to review the school funding system in Australia is a rolled-gold elite with no direct experience with the challenges of disadvantaged public education in low income neighbourhoods’’.

“His only ‘qualification’ appears to be a friendship with Turnbull,’’ Mr Latham said.

National Catholic Education Commission acting executive director Danielle Cronin hit out at the proposed changes, saying the government was unfairly targeting the sector and forcing Catholic schools to “abandon a mechanism that ensures resources are distributed fairly and according to need among schools that belong to a single Catholic schools authority’’.

Known as the System Weighted Average, the mechanism allows Catholic school authorities to spread resources across diverse school communities, she said.


Catholic Education Melbourne executive director Stephen Elder described the changes as a direct attack on Catholic parish primary schools. Under the plans, “parents at these schools will be expected to pay similar fees to those charged by elite independent institutions’’, he said. “This will hurt families of modest means most of all.’’

Senator Birmingham countered last night: “Surely nothing can be fairer than a funding model that treats all non-government schools ­consistently and on equal terms, based on the need of each individual school regardless of their sector or faith? Across Australia, Catholic school systems will receive ­estimated average per student growth of 3.7 per cent per annum, well above current measures of ­inflation or wages growth.’’

The per student base amount in 2018 will be $10,953 for primary students and $13,764 for secondary school students. The government argues more than 99 per cent of schools will see a year-on-year increase in funding, and on average per-student funding will grow 4.1 per cent a year over a decade.

Labor deputy leader Tanya Plibersek said it was “a smoke-and-mirrors, pea-and-thimble” ­effort to hide the fact the government was cutting $22bn from schools over a decade, instead of $30bn.

Independent Schools Council of Australia executive director Colette Colman welcomed the government’s “attempt to make the new model more consistent in application’’ while Business Council chief Jennifer Westacott applauded the government for “abolishing the commitment to maintain all schools’ funding levels — regardless of their level of privilege — (establishing) a fairer, simpler and more transparent approach to funding disadvantaged students and schools into the future’’.

NSW Education Minister Rob Stokes did not rule out the possibility of the state taking court action to enforce the current signed funding agreement with Canberra. “We come from a very strong moral position and we come from a position where we have acted in good faith in every dealing in relation to schools funding,’’ he said.

DancingShade posted:

You're right but I can kind of see the logic.

If the ruling government isn't really bothering with protocol why should anyone else?

poo poo I hope the slide into leather jacket anarchy isn't precipitated by a newspaper walkout of all things.

Dairy Shill posted:

"But it's about going down to the back of the supermarket, looking into the fridge, and choosing what we consider to be the correct, very nutritional product."

aejix posted:

The only soy milk I've liked is Bonsoy but that poo poo is insanely expensive. Is there soy milk that tastes like it that isn't ludicrously expensive?

Bogan King posted:

hooman posted:

Holy poo poo, is it just a universal rule everywhere that the people who want to be in politics are the worst possible people to be in politics?

What the actual gently caress. "We're a grassroots party, lol you selected me now I'm goping to do loving whatever gently caress you."

Jesus christ.

hooman posted:

WA best A

CrazyTolradi posted:

Except for the grumpy old men who pie CEO's that support same sex marriage. Truly, a representation of the average WA'er.

CrazyTolradi posted:

How many state and fed PHON members did you guys vote in again?

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Predicted wage growth in the budget: (lol)

Bogan King posted:

Here it is

JBP posted:

Wages in the late 80s plummeted after wage reform, however their jobs were very secure by today's standards of labour hire and casualisation. Most of the 1980's was a loving nice time to be a worker of any stripe.

It's worth bearing in mind as well that the wage reforms of the 80's led to a decent number of other reforms that delivered better social security/industrial awards on the whole. It then hosed everyone up with single enterprise bargaining, under which many workers traded out all of their workplace privileges for an extra 1% in their pay, which is why we see wage depression even in EBAs since people have nothing left to horse trade (and many don't know how or want to have a fight).

Bogan King posted:

For something a little more Perth flavoured I present the town that doesn't want a maccas built because it would ruin the vibe currently provided by the car park. The reason it is getting turned into a maccas is so the guy who restored the historic pub - after they fought hard to not have it rebuilt instead - can get some of the money he spent restoring it back.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Sure houses are two or three times more expensive than they were in the 90s and lots of people can't even afford a deposit, and sure the increase in house price entirely counters the lower interest rates, and sure the inevitable increase in interest rates would wipe out a a lot of people but, umm, loving milennials right?

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Australia's five largest banks are prepared to launch a mining tax-style ad campaign to fight the Turnbull government's $6.2 billion new tax, with Bankers' Association chief Anna Bligh accusing the government of playing "fast and loose" with Australia's financial system.


:popcorn:

GorgeOnMySyphilis posted:

'They’ve lost the lot': how the Australian mining boom blew up in property owners' faces

JBP posted:

I've been using MyRepublic for six months now and I really like it.

JBP posted:

You might as well be in here saying "gently caress Bud Tingwell he was a useless poo poo because I don't watch Australian film and television".