TinTower posted:

They like the idea of executing black people but think that war criminals are hard done by by political correctness.

knox_harrington posted:

Your personal attack kinda makes you the pantshitter.

Seriously campaigning as a communist is tone deaf and alienates a huge swathe of the population. There is no way Labour can make an impact on the election without appealing to the Guardian reading Islington sector. I'm a left leaning voter but listening to McDonnell I am basically his enemy - there is no-one for me to vote for in this election.

namesake posted:

Bloody difficult to watch or hear speak as well.

I really hope this EU dinner thing keeps going or gets bigger with another disaster meeting, just keep chipping away at the soundbites. Eventually it's got to drive any pro-EU Tory to either election apathy or outright madness.

Pistol_Pete posted:

The press and the hardliners in her party will turn on her like rabid dogs as soon as the inevitable Brexit compromises begin. I still can't understand why she even wants the job of Prime Minister, unless she really is too dull to understand how it's going to turn out for her.

Zephro posted:

The army doesn't use bombs. That's the air force's job. How can we rely on the Theresa May Party to give are boys the STRONG AND STABLE leadership they need if they're so ignorant of basic facts

Serotonin posted:

My wife was voter number 16 when she voted at 19:30. There's about 250 potential voters here.
Tbf it was only for the metro mayor whatever the gently caress that is

Pissflaps posted:

Not sure what all the high emotion is for - last night's result has been on the cards for months.

This is the natural consequence of having Jeremy Corbyn as leader. People do not want to vote for a party lead by him.

June will be even worse.

Pissflaps posted:

People who support Corbyn are causing people to die because they're taking away the centre left alternative to the Tory party.

This is your fault.

hakimashou posted:

The people you care about are being made much worse off by corbynista petulance and the great boon of help it gives to the tories.

jBrereton posted:

Maybe a more reflective headcase would consider that someone largely liked by people like them was not representative of the aspirations of the country as a whole.

Pissflaps posted:

These meltdowns over an utterly unsurprising turn of events are baffling.


The oval office won't resign.

Pissflaps posted:

When you demand labour is lead by somebody with a chance in hell of becoming prime minister I might believe you give a gently caress about people dying because of Tory governments.

OwlFancier posted:

Ordinarily I would agree but I'm not aware of him having any particularly militarist tendencies and an ex soldier could be preferable to non-soldiers who are very keen on making lots more ex (dead) soldiers in interventionist wars.

Pissflaps posted:

That 'administrative stuff' is people's lives.

Jedit posted:

It's right there on the page. We cannot be in the Single Market unless we agree to freedom of movement. If we are not in the Single Market, the trade deals will have to be conducted on entirely different terms. Therefore, these details must be resolved before trade negotiations can begin.

endlessmonotony posted:

Let me do that far better:

True Leftist: Anyone considered perfect by all.
Far left: People who believe physically attacking rich people for being rich is morally justified.
Leftist: People who believe everyone should have food, healthcare and housing, no matter how poor.
Centre Left: People who believe what leftists do, but are willing to compromise with assholes so they can improve things a little.
Centrist: People who believe personal popularity is a bigger priority than preventing suffering.
Technocrat: Anyone who believes having access to education makes people morally superior.
Liberal: Anyone who believes individual rights are more important than preventing starvation.
Centre Right: People who hate poor people, but don't want to make potential voters uncomfortable about it.
Right Wing: People who want to punish people for being poor or minorities.
Fascist: Someone who says a minority powerless to change the situation is responsible for social problems and the only way to solve it is to implement laws to discriminate against that minority. *
Alt-right: Fascist, but openly advocating ethnic cleansing.
* If a minority of the minority is able to change the situation but won't and the majority of the minority has no way to reliably identify or oppose those people, the minority is considered powerless.

WMain00 posted:

I get the feeling this is what happens when you don't have an efficient spin doctor in your party. You get trapped into thinking that you need to woo the tabloids as much as possible. As such the tabloids start making Government policy more than the Government itself. Of course, it's all going to collapse like a ton of bricks on their head when Brexit causes the economic depression everyone is warning about. I'll be curious how the tabloids spin how rationing is a good thing.

Zephro posted:

Yeah. You can already see this happening with that paranoid speech about how the evil Eurocrats are trying to fiddle the Great Patriotic Election*. Anything bad will be used as evidence that the EU is evil and we were right to leave.

*Presumably by putting Labour in power so that Brexit can, err, happen anyway? Even by the standards of delusional bollocks it makes no sense

Angepain posted:

it's impressive how Corbyn has managed to simultaneously lie about being in favour of Brexit and lie about being against Brexit

Jose posted:

your red text is extremely specific

MikeCrotch posted:

The Telegraph is fun to read and laugh at as they get progressively more histrionic about THE PERFIDIOUS SOCIALISTS IN OUR MIDST but please don't think they actually have any inside scoops on Labour

Pochoclo posted:

Let's leave the whole politics thing out of the way for a sec, I have a really important question: do you have normal hot dogs here in the UK? All I've seen so far is these massive "posh dogs" and sausages. I guess what I want is "american style"?

Lightning Lord posted:

Well it was more a (bad) joke about how the UK will die in June

But good to know you're into music by a dude who makes racist RPGs that use papyrus font I guess

Evil_Urna posted:

Correct. If you want to make more money, you can do so in a proper job outside the prison. They are not too difficult to get if you are not in prison. My suggestion is not committing crimes.

Evil_Urna posted:

Various socioeconomic and cultural factors. I never said that blacks did not get a raw deal in America from time to time. poo poo is not all roses and teacups here when it comes to the law. Things are getting better, just a little too slowly. Once we get of some of the more stupid drug laws it will fix a lot of our prison problems. But to be fair, if weed is illegal where you live, and you have already been in the system, maybe not break the law? Its always an option.

forkboy84 posted:

That is inspirational. You too can become a leading political journalist for a major newspaper, so long as you accept that ideology is an answered question and thus you don't have to know anything about it.

I have no idea where he went to school or university, but if his parents paid for it then they should ask for a refund.

Jose posted:

someone hosed up and let her near the general public

https://cdn.theguardian.tv/mainwebsite/2017/05/15/20170515MayAbingdon_desk.mp4

Ewan posted:

Newspapers should be coming out soon-ish with formal "who we are supporting"? The Times is particularly interesting to me, as they don't hold back from critical anti Tory posts and have in the past (most recently 2005) supported Labour. FT often seems anti Con recently too, although I would suspect they'd tend towards Lib Dem.


2015:
Express: UKIP
Mail: Con
Mirror: Lab
Sun: Con
Times: Con
Telegraph: Con
Guardian: Lab
Independent: Lib Dem
FT: Con

My predictions:
Express: Con
Mail: Con
Mirror: Lab (already declared)
Sun: Con
Times: Con or Lib Dem
Telegraph: Con
Guardian: Lab
Independent: Lab
FT: Lib Dem

Hoops posted:

Mental that professional politicians can decide on "don't feed kids" as one of their manifesto policies. No idea of the cost and savings breakdowns, but it's milksnatching for fucks sake, just pick something else.

Oh dear me posted:

Means testing seems fairer because means testing leaves sour taste in mouth. Labour really need to do some educational campaigns tackling basic concepts like means testing, tax thresholds and so on.

Darth Walrus posted:

It's signalling that the Conservatives will be willing to make the tough decisions necessary for the economy.

The Tories are actively engaged in persuading the British citizentry that cruelty against the undeserving is necessary to make the country run, and encouraging them to view manifestos containing insufficient amounts of cruelty with suspicion.

Skinty McEdger posted:

The Tories announcing the repeal of article 40 in the middle of their manifesto is the most cynical poo poo I have seen towards guaranteeing favourable press coverage from the right wing rags. I'm genuinely shocked the Telegraph broke ranks even a little.

Pochoclo posted:

Those children listening to pop songs were going to storm Jerusalem any second

buckets of buckets posted:

I'll take 'places that allow mass immigration' for 500

croc suit posted:

buckets of buckets posted:

My point was more to do with Poland, Hungary etc. not being on the map. Belgium's on there, despite not having committed any heinous colonial acts for quite some time. The common factor being immigration policy.

Tesseraction posted:

What is it with people and thinking "ah yes, round them up in camps, that has no history of negative consequences!"