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Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

knox_harrington posted:

I'm a left leaning voter but listening to McDonnell I am basically his enemy - there is no-one for me to vote for in this election.

So you're left-leaning but you also don't think there's a problem with capitalism?

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Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
No, but you see, that's Corbyn's fault because his office didn't deliver a soundbite to a paper within half an hour.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

It's OK, Theresa will be "bloody difficult" (or whatever the gently caress the quote was) to Juncker, and this will suddenly make him see the error of his ways and immediately give in to all her demands because she's so STRONG AND STABLE.

Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 23:42 on May 2, 2017

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

JFairfax posted:

who puts weight on over the summer?

Drinkers. Pub business is highest during the summer.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Spuckuk posted:

Not uniquely.

Take, for another example, your posting.

Now, that's not fair.

Pissflaps' posting is toxic to everyone, not just the electorate.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Guavanaut posted:

Has that ever been true? I guess it might be for single parents with a dozen children, but wasn't there a thing that showed that the number of those cases in the entire country was countable on both hands?

Or for people who are too disabled/terminally ill to work, but gently caress people who are against them having independence.

There is the issue of the part-time/low income trap, where you're worse off on a bad contract than on JSA, and that is poo poo, but surely the solution to that is to have a top up that you can claim in those cases, not to make the unemployed worse off.

Presumably she's thinking of tabloids screaming about "unemployed man lives in a 12-bedroom mansion paid for with YOUR TAXES" and "benefits mum has 17 children by 20 DIFFERENT MEN" and unwilling and/or too stupid to realise that cases like these make up a vanishingly small minority of benefits claimants.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

ukle posted:

https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/860244656495448065

FFS. I know these have been not greatly advertised but these are for positions that are likely to hold considerable power.

I'm in the West Midlands and no effort at all has been made here to tell us what powers and responsibilities our new mayor will have.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Steve2911 posted:

Why have all the right wing royalist papers gone for a picture in which Phillip looks like an actual lich?

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/860252588478009346

The nation may salute him but I loving don't. Twat.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Seaside Loafer posted:

Put pissflaps and hakimashou on ignore and it gets semi-readable

When people remember to stop loving quoting them.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

learnincurve posted:

I'm still going to go with if the local labour councillors don't bother campaigning or sending out leaflets because they, like Kinnock, believe the election to be in the bag, and the Tory councillors buy four pages, including the front cover, of a local newspaper with a very high circulation and send in Theresa loving May to Clay Cross of all places, then it might not be entirely Corbyn's fault that they suffered monumental losses in the Derbyshire council elections.

Edit: seriously, all they needed to do was go "poo poo they've got one over on us, Jeramy you need to come down here quick and point at a couple of closed down banks looking angry!"

The Tory who won the West Midlands mayoral election is widely assumed to have done so because he (as the former MD of John Lewis) spent about 10 times more on the election than the rest of the candidates put together. Democracy's dead, people just vote for whoever has the deepest pockets.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

forkboy84 posted:

This is a dumb post.

Exceptionally so. For one thing, literally no one in this thread thinks or has ever thought that Mélenchon is any sort of golden boy.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Zephro posted:

So Corbyn was asked half a dozen times by Laura Kuenssberg whether Brexit would still happen if Labour won and he dodged the question every time. I get the impression Labour are trying to be clever by being all things to all people on Brexit and creating what they imagine is useful ambiguity so that both Remainers and Leavers will feel they can vote for them. But it isn't working - they just look like idiots and/or crypto-Leavers who don't have the courage to say so out loud.

I wouldn't be surprised if Corbyn refuses to give Kuenssberg a straight answer to any question ever again.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

It's hilarious how we can have "strong Britain, we're taking back control" and "the mean EU are bullying us" as messages coming from the Tories simultaneously and no-one bats an eyelid.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
Enjoy the juxtaposition:

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

jabby posted:

I think it's more the juxtaposition that Corbyn is pressed repeatedly on serious issues and is never allowed any leeway to dodge the question, whereas May takes only pre-approved questions from journalists, doesn't answer them, and this is never reported as a serious issue. She is even allowed to outright lie, for example by making false claims about Ed Miliband's energy price freeze, and it is not reported. Meanwhile an evasive (and admittedly stupid) answer from Corbyn is dramatic enough to top the six o'clock news.

Exactly. One the one had you've got Laura Kuenssberg taking a hatchet to Corbyn where whatever answer he gives is going to be spun into bad news for him, and on the other you've got Alex Jones lobbing softball questions to Theresa May about who does the washing up at home in an attempt to make her seem like an actual non-terrible human.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Regarde Aduck posted:

Someone inform the Mail!

"immigrants mean NHS can't afford software updates"

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Evil_Urna posted:

Prison labor, which is paid for the most part, is not only good for the prisoner as he is paying off his debt to society through work, it is edifying to the spirit and can make a man better.

This is literally the same argument that the Victorians used to justify workhouses. Also, while you're patting yourself on the back for paying inmates for their work, remember that their "wage" is less than a dollar per hour.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Evil_Urna posted:

Correct. If you want to make more money, you can do so in a proper job outside the prison. They are not too difficult to get if you are not in prison. My suggestion is not committing crimes.

So you actually have no problem with slavery, as long as the slaves are black criminals.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Evil_Urna posted:

Wow man. Not all blacks are criminals. That is a pretty lovely thing to say.

For the record, nearly 60% of American prisoners are non black.

For a population that's 87% non-black, that's not a good thing. Why do you think black people are over-represented in the prison population?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Miftan posted:

A real pound shop pissflaps.

Dollar store, if he's American.

But yeah, there's no point arguing with this guy, on the ignore list he goes.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Evil_Urna posted:

When was the last time an American professional athlete was called the N word from the stands?

About 2 weeks ago.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

ronya posted:

Labour mayor though

One of the strikes is on Merseyrail and another is Arriva Rail North.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Spangly A posted:

Alternatively they'll do what they always do; gently caress off for six months and come crawling back when they can't get good cocaine anymore

lol if you don't think you can get good coke in Europe

e: yeah that's more like it

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Namtab posted:

The intended audience seems to be people who want a free paper

people who are commuting to zone 5 and want a couple of sudoku to pass the time

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Regarde Aduck posted:

Telling people not to vote Labour is such a loving cunty thing to do and went over the line. You're a dickhead 'flaps. Reign it in.

Because he'd much rather the Tories give Labour an absolute kicking, so he can come in here and do his "I told you Corbyn was bad" thing yet again, and who gives a gently caress about the damage they'll do to the country, just as long as he can declare that he's been proved right.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Dabir posted:

Put him on ignore and do not reply to him.

Make this next month's thread title.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

jabby posted:

As a man he shouldn't ever be saying abortion isn't 'something he would personally do' though.

Well, not unless he's medically qualified.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

OwlFancier posted:

Labour's planning to raise the base tax rate to 25%?

That's a... bold claim...

By "millions of working people" they mean "people earning over £80k".

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

serious gaylord posted:

Isn't there some electoral law that means you can't publish outright lies in the official campaigning time?

Even if there is, I expect any consequences will be the same consequences the Tories faced the last time they broke electoral law (ie zero).

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Lord of the Llamas posted:

And Labour have been gaining ground since the election was called. What the gently caress are you complaining about?

The Tory lead was a house of cards built on Brexit. Maybe the quote that will sum up this election will be "Easy come, easy go."

That sound you can hear is the goalposts shifting from "Labour are going to get destroyed" to "Labour aren't making any progress" to "Labour should be winning by more". Usually it takes longer than 24 hours, though.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

jabby posted:

The fact that Labour has risen quite significantly in the polls ever since people started seeing a lot more of Corbyn and got a manifesto written entirely by his team should tell anyone with a brain that maybe he wasn't the reason for the dire poll ratings before the election.

It's amazing what can happen when the media stops screeching "SOCIALIST MARXIST COMMUNIST" for half a second and actually focuses on what he's doing and what he wants to achieve.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

serious gaylord posted:

It sounds like something to do with the train line went bang?

Something went bang in that kind of area. Some reports are suggesting it was near the box office.

e: definitely looks like it was outside of the main arena itself, which is good considering the alternatives.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

TheRat posted:

Armed police, ballistic armour and bomb squads. It certainly seems to be pointing towards an attack at this point.

It's pointing towards "no-one knows what the gently caress happened yet so we're taking every precaution we can".

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

serious gaylord posted:

Whatever it is we're over 2 hours since it happened and no-one 'official' has said what it was. This is all very odd.

Not really. The bomb squad have got to clear the area before they can actually find out what exploded and why.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Tsietisin posted:

If this was a terrorist, it's just probably helped create a government that will go after their country and countrymen with bombs.

ISIS' best recruitment tool is collateral damage from US/UK etc bombings, it fuels their "Islam vs the West" narrative.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Gorn Myson posted:

Bit early to say its a terrorist attack. We don't even know if he was brown or not yet. For all we know it could just be a crazed, mentally troubled white man.

Just a quiet gardener.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Lord of the Llamas posted:

So someone stood on a nail?

Plausible on a building site, slightly less so in a concert hall.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Gorn Myson posted:

Theresa May must be in a real crisis right now. On the one hand, she wants to help out the children that have been injured. On the other hand, she doesn't want to feed them.

She's going to make a big thing out of "suspending the campaign", ie trying to sort out the Tories' manifesto issues behind closed doors while also preventing Corbyn and Labour from holding the big events which are winning them support.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Nonsense posted:

The UK press really dropped the ball on this one.

They're trying to work out a way to blame that notorious terrorist sympathizer Jeremy Corbyn.

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Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
Ignore button is getting a good workout today. Still waiting on Fans to follow through on his promise though.

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