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Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011


There's got to be zero chance he fully noted all his foreign contacts on his security clearance.

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Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Trump thinking he could have out-dealed the civil war from happening is funny, but him saying that and then being unable to pass legislation with a republican congress is next level hilarious. At this point he is objectively worse at political deal making than George W Bush.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

suboptimal posted:

Meanwhile, if you are upset about how godless liberals have prevented god-fearing folk from engaging in political activity, fear not! Our godly president has just signed an order lifting most of the restrictions on churches engaging in political activity.

I have hope this one actually bites them. Organized black churches in the south have been arguably the most powerful force for social progress in modern history.

Then again imagine all the megachurches phone banking for Ted Cruz. Ugh.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Sanctions are proven failures at generating internal change, but they work great at keeping countries too poor to invade anyone.

Given the entirety of Russian history, betting on democratic reformers ever getting the upper hand under any possible circumstances seems optimistic.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

The entire business model of Virgin America was "we'll charge maybe 20-50 extra per ticket for an experience where people are treated like valuable customers instead of cattle" and it didn't work out. People would literally let themselves be stacked on top of each other if it saved them $20 for a four hour flight.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Right wing authoritarian ideology is all about being simultaneously weak enough to be threatened by an all-powerful global conspiracy, enemy nations, enemy religions, and even social trends, while also celebrating the strength and power of your own nation. The more powerful you become, then your enemies must become even more powerful to maintain the threat, and the more powerful your enemies are then everyone must rally even more around the leader so that you can fight the enemy.

As put by someone much smarter than me:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/

quote:

8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

facialimpediment posted:

Good guy appears to have won in France, 65-35. Possibly one of the biggest potential polling errors ever, as polls only had Macron beating Le Pen by 20, not 30.

https://twitter.com/France24_en/status/861279279996391426

It will be delicious if anger at the email leaks actually increased his support.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

FrozenVent posted:

So, if someone from the administration had indeed colluded with a foreign power... who's gonna do anything about it now?

Unless the dems take back Congress, no one, and that's the point.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Reminder that Kansas is a hellscape of republican policies that have hosed over every aspect of life and yet people there remain as republican as ever.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

There is no Constitutional mechanism for new presidential elections. It goes Ryan, Hatch, then down the list of cabinet secretaries by order of the department. And if you run out of those it's the apocalypse anyway.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Mensch has about the same fact / complete bullshit ratio as Alex Jones, and that other guy was the guy saying that there were like dozens of raids going out a couple days ago (there weren't).

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Hot Karl Marx posted:

How can a third of your country have 0 opinion on something like that?

If liberals and the media are mad, Trump is doing something right.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Also if Hillary won Trump would be nonstop tweeting about how he'd never do what Hillary was doing and people would believe him. Trump actually got traction as anti war and anti corruption and as long as he never got office he could continue to be all things to his fans.

I still wish Hillary had won but if she had her reign would be brutal and probably short.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Reverand maynard posted:

I want someone like preet bharara to run. There is going to be a lot of animosity towards corruption and cronyism so someone with a history of prosecuting corruption would do well.

Better hope he doesn't like prostitutes.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

McMaster doing a sole briefing today? His credibility is hosed.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

The wapo article on the tape is hilarious


quote:

When initially asked to comment on the exchange, Brendan Buck, a spokesman for Ryan, said: “That never happened,” and Matt Sparks, a spokesman for McCarthy, said: “The idea that McCarthy would assert this is absurd and false.”

After being told that The Post would cite a recording of the exchange, Buck, speaking for the GOP House leadership, said: “This entire year-old exchange was clearly an attempt at humor. No one believed the majority leader was seriously asserting that Donald Trump or any of our members were being paid by the Russians. What’s more, the speaker and leadership team have repeatedly spoken out against Russia’s interference in our election, and the House continues to investigate that activity.”

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Pence is a monster but I'm not worried about him launching nuclear weapons because Rosie O'Donnell twittered a meme.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

The freedom caucus is making noise about raising the debt limit.

If the debt limit does not raise, the banks melt down, then the rest of the economy.

Trump on campaign said repeatedly that defaulting on the debt might be a good idea.

Here is what I expect to happen: the freedom caucus will demand conditions to raise the debt limit. Our idiot president will support them. Rs will need to support them near unanimously because dems won't support whatever conditions the freedom caucus demands. All that leaves almost no room for defections. And it's impossible to get all the freedom caucus to vote yes on a debt limit even if their conditions are met, because like most people who fetishize money and the economy, they know nothing about it.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Weird how he keeps gushing over autocrats and starting dumb fueds with democratically elected leaders.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Trump is completely absent and stupid so everyone in the admin is starting to figure out they can just propose all their favorite policies from the WSJ editorial page.

Edit:

http://fusion.kinja.com/donald-trump-is-getting-played-like-a-sucker-by-his-own-1795583550

quote:


There was a real fear that Trump actually would govern the way he promised he would in the campaign: As a Huey Long-style, “every man a king” populist. Now that Trump is actually in power, though, he is doing nothing to actually enact what could have been a (worryingly!) popular agenda of ruthless repression for some matched with guaranteed economic security for most.

Is this because Trump’s campaign rhetoric was a smokescreen for a much more austere conservative agenda? I don’t think so. This budget isn’t Trump pushing the policies he secretly intended to push the whole time—it looks much more like the result of a disengaged and ignorant executive getting taken advantage of by the highly ideological snakes he was dumb enough to fill his administration with.

Let’s be clear: Only a complete dumbass would hire someone like Mick Mulvaney and ask him to draft a budget. The result was always going to be politically toxic, because actual right-wing ideas, once transplanted from the realm of pure rhetoric to actual quantified numbers, are incredibly unpopular. There is a large constituency for blaming America’s problems on mooches and freeloaders. There isn’t much of one for slashing spending that helps actual humans, who, by and large, don’t consider themselves mooches and freeloaders.

Best Friends fucked around with this message at 17:34 on May 26, 2017

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Trump will agree to it then two hours later get in a Twitter fight with some ex contestant on The Bachelor because he has holes in his brain.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

This country skewed right during the Nixon-Bush era but it skewed left before that, and I think we're going back to the left. Single payer is polling well, gay marriage went from fringe pipe dream to something conservatives and centrists are busily pretending they were always for, weed getting normalized, etc.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Those who commit acts of terror tend to be both insane losers and also extremely hateful, it's not an either or. The Oregon guy apparently has a very long history of white supremacism.

Edit: here's a long thread on the guy's background

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/868477854127763457

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Dead Reckoning posted:

You might be in for a surprise. Press found his Facebook, which, uh, sure is something.


Yeah, this sounds like a guy with a coherent, conservative, Christian, pro-Trump political philosophy:





He sounds like a Pepe.

I'm not saying he's not crazy. I am saying he's crazy like a whole lot of other people in that hate movement. And if he was making the same unhinged rants about Allah and did the same thing, we wouldn't be having this conversation, he'd exactly fit the pattern of all the other western born terrorists.

Which, he still does. Terrorists are broken brained losers who are also full of hate. Like this guy.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Like do you realize how many white supremacists aren't Christian? Weird neo pagan stuff is all the rage in prison gangs.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

He was a Trump supporter though. Anyone on the internet can see the "alt right," that this guy was clearly in the middle of, is a notable subset of Trump supporters.

As far as him being filled with hate, that hate comes from society. No one just wakes up and decides to hate muslims. Just like in the middle east no one wakes up and completely on their own decides that the Shia are actually part of the vast Zionist conspiracy or whatever. The right wing in general has normalized anti-islam views and now the alt-right is growing in power. Some members of the alt right will periodically act on the rhetoric.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Duzzy Funlop posted:

Spicey is saying the press totally misquoted Angela Merkel. She totally didn't say that Germany could no longer rely on America. The outcome is totally what Trump intended to do, more shared burden and a fair relationship of friendship. :lol:

"The national security team is working on a "holistic solution" to the abject poverty which is the breeding ground for terrorism. Okay bud.

MAGA spokesman: knowledge and foreign experience is for the weak

Also MAGA spokesman: Merkel's comments have been misconstrued. If we consult the original text, and view within linguistic context...


(I've got to check out the original comments but I really doubt they got misreported)

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Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

maybe he had a stroke

How would anyone ever notice. It's not like he raises his arms ever and his favorite grimace is already hosed up.

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