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Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer
Re: car financing: secure your loan through a credit union before you start shopping. They will stop you from buying anything egregiously stupid, because they'll just refuse to finance it (the ones I've dealt with, anyway). They also usually have hard maximums on their APRs, too.

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Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

CannonFodder posted:

And she's denying anything is wrong as they turn to mush. That's hoarding behavior and she needs help.

Yeah, this is more why I didn't comment. She's pretty clearly mentally ill, and that's less funny and more sad.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer
The reason people are willing to pay 20% interest is because either 1) they don't know any better, or 2) they can't do any better, and they need a loving car, because :911:.

It's not like we go out of our way in this country to make people financially literate. We have whole industries that depend on that financial illiteracy.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer
IANAL, but I think you can put whatever the hell you want in a prenup, but generally speaking, it has nothing to do with the division of marital assets; a prenup is meant to protect your personal assets from before you get married.

I can't imagine a lawyer writing a prenup that says "if you cheat, you get nothing," because it would be largely unenforceable; this goes double if it was only written four years ago.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer
The problem with choosing your major is that you need to choose a major that's going to be profitable ten years from now, which may or may not be the same as majors that are profitable now. I don't know if we're looking at a STEM glut, but there's no real way to know right now. Just ask most of my classmates who went to law school.

When people were saying "just get any college degree, and you'll make a bunch more money," that was largely actually true; it just wasn't by the time a lot of those people got out of school (or shortly thereafter).

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

FAUXTON posted:

It didn't help that Alamo Drafthouse recently started notifying its customers of a moviepass-like plan in the works.

At least, I got a wait list invite in the Alamo app last time I checked it. Haven't gotten anything since, including prices, and I'm pretty sure it's gonna be BWM levels of expensive since it's supposed to allow something like a movie a day.
AMC is doing the same thing, three movies a week.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer
I have ReachNow and pay less to drive BMWs than most people pay for insurance on one.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Coworker may be BWM. They are going from office to office asking "Do you like Hawaii?" In response to "Yes?...", they try to sell their timeshare on Kona.

For extra sales power they say flights are cheaper than you may expect, then trail off without naming a price or showing photos. So far ineffective. Next step is to put up a handwritten ad in the breakroom, instead of adapting a strategy to reach customers beyond a fifty yard radius from their desk.

Both bad with money, and bad with coworkers. I'd loving hate someone trying to sell me their timeshare while I'm a de facto captive audience.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer
I feel like a 65-year-old that wants to adopt a one-year-old is not mentally competent to be adopting a one-year-old.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

Guinness posted:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/homeowners-to-pay-settle-seattle-lawsuit-over-cutting-public-trees/

loving with trees, especially trees that aren't yours (but even ones that are in some places), is VERY Bad With Money
I got super pissed over that one, as they really should have been charged criminally, and got away paying way less than they should have had to. Should have settled for well into the seven figures in exchange for not sending them to loving prison.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

Lead out in cuffs posted:

This is pretty infuriating, but I imagine that a federal district court judge is kinda hard to prosecute, both for his knowledge of the justice system, and for his connections.

I was actually talking about the other case, that happened just a couple of years ago, where it was just a bunch of rich, white homeowners cutting down trees on public land.

But the judge one is definitely infuriating, too.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

Ixian posted:

The specific problem with the dumb uncle is he made the classic mistake of retiring at 62, because you can start to receive (reduced) SS benefits then, even though the system is clearly designed for those 65 and older. Full SS starts kicking in at 65 (and gets better if you wait to 67) and Medicare flat out starts at 65 period. If you "retire" before that and have pre-existing conditions, yeah, you are gonna get hosed until 65.

I'm not saying it is a great system. I am saying that bad as the system is this guy made it even worse on himself. If you and/or your spouse won't have employer access to healthcare before 65, don't retire, or be prepared to shell out.

My mom looked at retiring a year or so early, and decided not to because of the Medicare, even though they could've afforded it (would've been ~$2500 a month).

If you think healthcare in this country for old people is bad, you should see it for young people. And all of the old people want to make sure young people don't get access to it. The loving Chargemaster--the document that dictates what a given hospital charges for a given service--is a trade loving secret. Keeping all of your (ridiculously complicated) inflated pricing secret from your customers who will literally die without your services: definitely GWM.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Guinness posted:

And you just know the average American corporation wouldn't pass on those savings to its employees when the switch gets flipped. I'm actually amazed that American businesses tend to be so anti-UHC, considering they are the ones that really stand to benefit the most by no longer getting hosed by rising insurance premiums, plus they could get rid of such a huge administrative overhead in managing something that isn't their line of business. The health insurance handcuffs may be even more valuable to them, but it seems like even that will have to give at some point on the current trajectory.

Those handcuffs are worth a loving ton.

KingSlime posted:

Who is doing these polls? What type of person is being polled? I am very highly skeptical of that claim

I loving hate my insurance with a passion but it sure beats being uninsured. It covers jack poo poo and I pay $260/mo. My employer offer a $400/mo options that somehow covers less, it's a disgusting joke and I can't help but cackle with emotionally unbalanced glee whenever I see yet another GoFundMe set up by people who have insurance and still can't pay their bills

God help me if I had kids
My guess would be most people who say that have been told that their health insurance is good, and just haven't had to use it for anything other than regular checkups or kids who need shots or antibiotics or whatever. As soon as they actually need it, it probably plummets.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
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SiGmA_X posted:

My company now only offers HSA's, but they offered a $300/1,500 deductible/OPM PPO until this year. The math said that for all people, the HDHP was cheaper. Most people still stuck with the PPO... People are bad at math.

In 2014, without taking into account the tax effect, the HSA was cheaper until you had $8,490 of medical expenses in a year - over that, you could look at spending $1,100/yr more with the HDHP. When taking into account the tax savings via the HSA, the HDHP plan is $250 cheaper than the PPO once you max it out, and cheaper all the way up. Utilizing 100% of the HDHP would empty your HSA, but not a penny over.

In 2017, without taking into account the tax effect, the HSA was cheaper all the way up. Once both plans had been maxxed out in spend, the HDHP was still $1,210 less expensive. AND after tapping the OPM, you still had room to leave money invested in your HSA! Most people still used the PPO plan...

Yeah, I don't understand why people complain about American health care. That all just makes perfect, intuitive sense.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

Crimpanzee posted:

Fair point s but this is definitely not a cash flow/inability to pay just a automatic transfer issue. Anyone who needed the money that day received a paper check.
So... they have to pay out maybe half their payroll that day, tops? As everyone who doesn't need the money just waits for a direct deposit because they don't want to have to deal with the check?

Are you interested in a great investment opportunity? It's a piece of infrastructure that allows people and vehicles to cross water. It's a great deal!

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

canyoneer posted:



Be your own boss! Get a new husband!

I mean... This seems like I've of those situations where the only thing more expensive than divorce is staying married.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

George H.W. oval office posted:

I just lost my longest running card that had been opened when I was 18 because I didn’t use it for a year. It hurts a bit yea.

Yeah, I started using mine for laundry to insure this doesn't happen.

Do not want to lose an eighteen-year-old credit line from my report.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Not a Children posted:

Yeah, there's no excuse. Either he went to an unaccredited school (shouldn't matter, honestly) or he's put close to no effort into finding those jobs. Everyone I know in the industry is being harassed by headhunters to fill entry-level positions, no matter their actual experience.

If I'm a betting man, they're in Eastern Washington, and refuse to move, so there aren't any loving jobs, because nobody loving lives there.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer
Don't the family members owe gift taxes for the difference between market value and the price they paid, too?

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

CmdrRiker posted:

My criticism was more about the psychological implications of being in major debt but still feeling entitled to move beyond a "starter home." I might be reading too much into what "starter home" means to them, but it definitely feels as though he thinks he will be able to afford a "better home" in the near future.
Not to mention the expensive college degree, then tying himself down to what sounds like a rural area with few job options for him by buying a house there.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Barry posted:

Maybe we can just take what will be an undoubtedly very reasoned and calm discussion about what is or isn't sexual harassment to D&D or whatever and go back to laughing about hilarious BWM. I present:

Parents are set on buying a vacation rental property by draining their 401k...how do I convince them otherwise?


Pops wants to cash out $760k of his 401k to buy a vacation rental house.

Honestly, they're pulling in so much money in Social Security and his mom's 401k that it's not like they're in any real danger of financial insolvency. Even if the housing market collapses, all the houses will be paid off, and they'll still have that income.

Certainly not great with money, but meh. If they want the vacation home anyway, whatever.

Ham Equity fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Sep 12, 2018

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer
I feel like the people for whom split finances work, it doesn't really matter how they handle they're finances, because they're largely on the same page as far as how much should be spent on what, and have very good, open lines of communications about financial matters.

I also feel like lawyer married to teacher just really wants her to be the one to dump him.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer
So wait... was it her life savings, or was it: "She said she used her freezer as a temporary, would-be bank for her small business deposits and savings to limit the number of trips she needed to take to her real bank?"

It sounds a lot like she's trying to bilk $35,000 out of Costco.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Vox Nihili posted:

This is maybe 30% BWM and 70% BWL but it's crazy enough that I'm posting it anyway:

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/9hakgy/the_house_i_live_in_is_a_biohazard_if_i_tell_my/?sort=top

I live in Delaware, USA. So, 2 years ago my family moved into a grand old Victorian house. We were specifically told it was bat free. As soon as we moved in, I started hearing a tremendous commotion in the walls and ceiling of the room I was sleeping in. My parents refused to believe me because they were told by the previous owners it was ‘supposed to be bat free’...
Can someone explain this to me? I'm just picturing them looking at buying the house, talking to the agent: "oh, yeah, nice, friendly neighborhood, and good schools. Also, totally and completely bat-free, zero bats to be had. And the water pressure is good, too."

Like... I feel like if someone selling me a house told me there definitely weren't any bats, I'd be 95% sure the place was infested with bats.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Hyrax Attack! posted:

There’s something insane like that regarding highest average years pay in Washington State, so sometimes employees nearing retirement start getting big raises to boost their pensions. They went too far with three fire managers and the state stepped in.


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/state-to-reduce-pensions-of-3-ex-firefighters/

In fairness, this is the same city that decided to indemnify their three cops who shot an unarmed black father in the gut while he was begging them not hurt his child. So, you know, sort of BWM all around.

It's a shitholes' shithole.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer
The way people are talking about getting into trades now reminds me of how people were talking about being a lawyer back when I was in high school. There's also the looming specter of automation.

I feel like the thing to do is not to get the skills that are in-demand now, but to get the skills that are going to be in-demand 5-10 years from now.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Midjack posted:

Mortician my dudes. People might stop buying cars or refrigerators but they won't stop dying.
I'm not sure what is the more ethically fraught: Mortician, MLM recruiting specialist, or snake oil salesman.

Tough call.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Something Offal posted:

Also Chris' ACH transfers were loving ginormous. A $45k ACH works with no questions asked, no forms filled out?

I work at a relatively small FI, and yeah, we process those frequently.

Someone put in an account number for an amount once, and that thankfully rejected (it was in the billions of dollars). Couldn't tell you where the limit falls, other than between seven and ten figures.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Not to mention that unlike union blue-collar work, food service comes without medical, holidays, sick/vacation time, etc.

The guy who I studied for my A+ and Network+ with makes probably 60% more than me as a bartender, but hella wants out for just that reason (he's in his mid-30s, like I am, and it's starting to wear on him).

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Someone I know took an unpaid internship at a medical transportation company and under the "Compensation" section of the listing it had "PAID: Exposure and networking experience with the #1 provider of medical transportation and travel training in [state]."

"Exposure" to people who can use spreadsheets and answer phones. Amazing compensation!

She knew it was unpaid, so she wasn't swindled, but the balls on a company to list that.

Also, 99.98% of unpaid internships are BWM.
99.98% of them are also probably illegal, but that's pretty much always unenforced. loving things should just be straight-up banned.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Fhqwhgads posted:

Wouldn't the college credits technically then have a dollar value so it's not exactly "unpaid"? Is that how they get around that?
You usually still have to pay for the credits.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

StrangersInTheNight posted:

Ponder to yourself. Somewhere else.

But yes you had money geez. Don't even be That Guy about it and act like ya di'int

BWM - my sister in law owns a mini-horse. You can't even ride it. They do shows. She's gotten hurt a few times doing it, costing more money in medical expenses.

How the gently caress do you hurt yourself multiple times doing horse shows with a horse you can't ride?

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

"I let him have complete control over our finances because I feel I am an “overbearing wife” and thought allowing him to have the responsibility would compensate for that. "

Weird.

It sounds like gaslighting. Like, really, really sounds like gaslighting.

Dude tells his wife she's so overbearing, gets her to give him control of the finances, then uses that control to make it so she can't leave him. I mean, we're only getting one side of this, but it sounds pretty textbook.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

CannonFodder posted:

Mini horses can still get bitey or kicky or "knock someone over"y.

I know this is old, but someone got hurt directly by an animal badly enough that they had medical bills, and rather than sell the animal which presumably has some monetary value to it, decided to keep doing shows with it? And it happened again and they again decided to keep doing shows with it?

At least when you get hurt by a boat, it's not because the boat just decided it was having an "I want to hurt people" day.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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MisterOblivious posted:

If you read the thread he left her twice for other women in the past and probably convinced her it was her fault because she was being "overbearing." And the bank statements are sent to his mother's house.
https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/8i0i4u/husband_27m_spent_my_25f_entire_savings_without/


Oh, and he's been siphoning money from her savings into his account, then siphoning off cash from his account with cash-back transactions at Walmart. Probably for his new girlfriend and whatever that "event" the OP mentions he had cash laying around for:



UPDATE: I've gone through the bank statements and it seems he had been slowly taking out of the savings account every since February (As far back as the statements will let me go). For no rhyme or reason, we would still have 600 in the bank and he would transfer $200 dollars over. The best I can tell the money really did go to nonsense, nothing but Walmart and food places on the statements. I was unaware he was eating out daily at work. Almost all transactions came from his card.

Update 2: I just realized he got a lot of cash back from stores. I have no idea how much money he got in cash back. A lot of Walmart purchases are 40 and 50 dollars for what should've been things like 20 dollars tops. He never went grocery shopping but I would have him pick up things for the house on his way home because he passed a store. But I know he had cash for a specific event I could not trace an ATM transaction for it. I also know he likes to take cash back from Walmart and such
Yeah... this is really just a woman stuck in an abusive relationship. She needs a divorce lawyer, stat, since it sounds like her husband makes decent money, if he's not lying about that, too.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

The bad with money here isn't shredding the money, or not putting it into the bank; the bad with money here is going into debt for loving football tickets.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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RoastBeef posted:

How the gently caress did he spend 46e3 on a Subaru Forrester?

46e3 AUD.

About $33,000 American.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Vox Nihili posted:

Oh god the comments:

Unfortunately were in no financial situation to pay out to a lawyer. Were expecting our daughter in a couple of weeks. Talked to my mother and she suggested to just let it go. Can't and don't really want to take over the house and can't spend thousand of dollars on lawyer fees.

E: beaten, but holy poo poo

As a lawyer coworker of mine was fond of saying: "frequently, the only thing more expensive than getting an attorney is not getting an attorney."

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Fitzy Fitz posted:

Predatory payday loan places are evil but goddamn dude why didn't you just pick up a second job for a while?

I work in IT, and I don't even know how I would go about getting a second job. Most places won't hire you if you say "I can't work from 8:30am-7:00pm, M-F. I have on-call hours one week in every six where I have to be available for my other job at all times." Where should he have looked, exactly?

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Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

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Fitzy Fitz posted:

Uber
Work-at-home tech support
Graveyard shift at Walmart

Disclaimer: no one should have to do that. Your job already sounds awful though if you're working 60 hours a week.
Spoken like someone who's never worked retail or service industry.

I'm not working 60-hour weeks; I get a lunch, and I'm just assuming that I'll need an hour to get from my current job to my second job or from my second job to my current job; the physical laws of the universe are a thing.

I don't have a car. Retail and fast food basically require your schedule to be close to infinitely flexible in order to hire you even for part-time work; they will absolutely not give you a regular schedule, let alone schedule around your requests. What work-at-home tech support can you do when you can't work daylight hours during the week? Like, name the company that's hiring for that.

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