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bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
It takes serious dedication to being hideous to rock that beard and those glasses for 40 years.

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bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Phi230 posted:

Shows also better than got: the expanse, black sails

Hell even if you're really particular and want a show with people getting hit with swords while wearing old-timey clothes, Vikings is better.

I guess it doesn't have tits and dragons though.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
You mean I could've been seeing all these ridiculously hot people naked all this time?!?

brb looking up uncensored versions of King Ecbert's bathhouse adventures.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Being anywhere near Danny ruins even the best characters, so I assume when she gets to Westeros every remaining character is going to suck.

re: talky bits. The big problem I have with these, even more so than the writing, is that they've killed off so many good characters(or at least characters played by good actors) that the few remaining ones don't get to interact very often. Like Arya dealing with Tywin and the Hound were some of the best parts of the show, but her palling around with some schmuck assassin is just boring. Bronn and Tyrion were great together, Bronn and Bad Pussy not so much.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Fire is Coming and It Won't Stop

Oh God I Shouldn't Have Eaten Those Qarthian Chilis

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Nail Rat posted:

In the show it doesn't seem to be the case. Jon clearly still eats, breathes, has visible breath in cold etc.

Berric also still bleeds when he's killed again iirc

There's no way in hell the showrunners are gonna care about different types of undead or whatever bullshit gurm has come up while not writing.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
They really dropped the ball wrt the giant. Like they've already established the giants are smart enough to use weapons like huge bows and can wreck things with something as simple as a burning log. So let's just have the giant unarmed and awkwardly swatting at speartips. :downs:

Like with everything else, their main priority while writing the battle scenes is plot convenience. Stuff that needs to happen will happen no matter how little sense it makes. The scenes are still visually impressive, but it sure would be nice if they would spend a little of their massive budget on competent writers.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Probably had more to do with the fact that they took a 100-year old dude on a long trip in some lovely wooden boat.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Groovelord Neato posted:

tho i agree not actually recognizing him is fine, it's actually way more embarrassing that several posters are so goony as to not have heard "shape of you" despite it being goddamn everywhere for months. nobody listens to the radio guys. we still all heard it.

I never heard that song and don't know who this guy is. It's not some attempt at being cool and underground, it's just not my(or my friends') kinda music.

What does it say about the state of GoT that the most talked about thing with the season premiere is a cameo by some popstar?

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Groovelord Neato posted:

you uh go out. you go to bars. you go to people's houses when they have parties and are playing music. pop culture osmosis is a thing dude. i don't watch your favorite show bbt but i know barenaked ladies does the theme song from catching like ten seconds of it while flipping through channels.

What if you go to parties and bars where they play good music instead?

I got curious and looked up Shape of You. It sounds vaguely familiar so I've probably heard bits of it in a shop or something, but no way could I have named either the song or the artist if it hadn't turned out to be the most interesting thing in the hit tv show Tits of Dragons. Speaking of which where was the pointless nudity in this episode?

Lycus posted:

This isn't actually what normal people are talking endlessly about.

Well yes but I post about a dragon tv show on dead gay comedy forums so what would I know about normal people?

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Codependent Poster posted:

Hey, Jon was right in what he did. Lyanna Mormont liked that decision, so it means it was the right one.

Yeah Sansa was being kind of a dick on that one. I guess male Starks can occasionally make smart decisions by accident.

IRQ posted:

I wouldn't have known it was even a cameo if it weren't for the internet losing its poo poo over it. Although the scene was kind of pointless.

I thought it was a nice scene. It's good to have a bit of humanizing for the bad guys instead making all of them into cartoonish monsters, and making Arya question her "murder everyone" policy was a nice character moment.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

lezard_valeth posted:

Nah, leaked images confirm it's Yara and the Bad Pussies

I hope Cersei reacts with "who the gently caress are they?" and has them all, Euron included, killed. Jaime of course knows, but he's so embarrassed by the Dorne plotline he doesn't speak up.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Dave Angel posted:

The Aubrey-Maturin series is set in the 19th century, which is a couple of eras away in terms of ship-building technology and the crew numbers required. Smaller viking warships would have crews of about 40 while the larger ones would have crews of 70-80, for comparison.

Those ships were pretty big for longships. I have no idea what kind of a population the iron islands are supposed to have, but even 50k people of fighting age seems like a lot for a couple of lovely islands with no agriculture. That's after Yara took off with a significant chunk of them too. Of course it goes in the same category as "where did the wood come from?" and "how fast did they build all of those?" as things you shouldn't think about too much. Nothing really makes sense in the show if you start thinking about numbers.

They were cool looking ships, I gotta admit that. The kraken sails especially. Shame about Euron being nowhere near cool enough to captain them.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
The ironborn should just drop the whole viking gimmick and make a killing in the shipbuilding business. Must be plenty of kings and nobles in game of thronos or whatever the world is called who'd pay top dollar for one of those.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Nail Rat posted:

I imagine a lot of that is cast salary. edit: I found some articles that claim that each of the 5 top billed actors (Tyrion, Jaime, Jon, Dany, Cersei) are getting paid $2 million per episode for the last two seasons so yeah. After they pay everyone else, I'd imagine the actual budget for each episode is a couple million.

That's a solid paycheck considering even the main characters usually have only a few scenes per episode.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Has Bran ever done anything interesting on the show? I can't even remember what he's done other than act as a vessel for flashbacks and that goofy skeleton fireball fight where Meera's brother got comedy stabbed to death. I guess he did some ruling in Winterfell before Ramsay took over? Warging has been basically pointless on the show and all we have are vague theories of him taking over the zombie army or an ice dragon or something.

Maybe he'll prove me wrong by taking control of a zombie giant or something, but I pretty much just tune out when his scenes come on.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

WampaLord posted:

Him getting pushed out the window at the end of the first episode basically jumpstarts the entire plot.

He should've just died in the fall. Same effect on the overall plot, no garbage scenes for the rest of the show.

e: no garbage scenes with Bran I mean, gotta be more specific than that on second thought

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

IRQ posted:

Does he mindrape Hodor in the show? I can't remember.

He does it in the past, leading to the dumb as poo poo Hold the door-scene.

The only redeeming part of that scene is that you know grrm was probably really proud of that "twist" with the name and is pissed that the show revealed it first.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

TeaJay posted:

At this point I will be happy when we (eventually) get Winds of Winter, but it's beginning to look like GURM is gonna croak before he has any chance to finish Dream of Spring. So if he will be adamant about no one being able to continue his work, the TV show might be the only source of an ending for the series we'll get?

"when" "beginning to look" "might be"

You want some good books, but what you need is a bad tv show.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Could've just gone south with 20 good zombies and resurrected the first army they encountered and slaughtered.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Andrigaar posted:

I'm absolutely loving tired of Theon's character. Just can't take it anymore.

His character is now multiple hours of being an impotent wretch, and so what? It's unlikely they can write a sequence of events badass enough where he acknowledges how broken of a person he is and the audience cares. He's a punching bag for the writing staff, a running joke at most. And that horse is beaten to a bloody smear on the ice.

Agreed. They dragged it out way too long with Ramsay and now that's over with he's just standing around being miserable and useless. Guess he'll eventually get redemption by stabbing Euron or something, but it'll be way too late to care about.

Apart from nice tits & butts this episode was boring as hell. Sand Snakes getting killed was good, but the scene was such a dark mess it was hard to tell what was happening for half of it.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

terrorist ambulance posted:

Euron got stabbed a bunch by the people who poison their weapons all the time and is happy and healthy makes sense by the universe's logic

tbf poisoning your weapons seems like the sort of thing you'd only do if you plan on using them. Not like they'd just keep some quick dipping poison just sitting around for a long(or short, who knows at this point) boat trip.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Atoramos posted:

I like how Sam let Jorah grab the rum, then grabs the rum back from Jorah. Pus squirting all over as he pulls off the skin. Sam's now got a ton of tools with Stoneskin on them and by all rights should be infected but no way they'll actually do that.

Not to mention going SHH with his gross gloved finger almost touching his lips. I know they don't know about germs, but that should still trigger an eww gross reaction.

Also how much do you wanna bet Jorah spends one episode with some bandages and is totally fine afterwards.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Next week's food jumpcut is gonna be from someone eating a sausage to Missy pegging GW.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Jack Gleeson was so good as Joffrey.

One of the problems I have with the show is that they've killed off too many good actors. The few good ones left don't get to interact with each other enough and are wasted on badly written scenes with poo poo actors.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Groovelord Neato posted:

the trash all goes into the writers' room.

uhh I think we have several seasons of proof that the trash comes out of the writers' room.

fromsinkingsands posted:

Is there anyone in this thread that actually enjoys the show? I agree with the fact that they've killed off a lot of great characters/actors but I'm still thoroughly enjoying this season.

I still like it, just in a different way from the early seasons. Poking holes in details is a part of enjoying schlock(which this show has def become) and I'd guess that most of the people posting about travel times and army logistics here like the show just fine.

Punkin Spunkin posted:

it may just be a part of the book narrative, I haven't read them, but I hear they're released in decreasing quality

Books 1-3: Pretty good as far as fantasy goes. 4-5: Garbage. 6-?: lol never coming out. The show's in the last part now and no one knows for sure how much of an outline grrm has given them, but chances are they're coming up with the details themselves.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Danny and Johnny had no chemistry and I already dread watching a romance between them for the rest of the season.

e:

Le Saboteur posted:

I love that they resolved the Jorah Greyscale issue in one episode.

bloom posted:

Also how much do you wanna bet Jorah spends one episode with some bandages and is totally fine afterwards.

I was being too optimistic with the bandages.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

TeaJay posted:

Cersei's torture porn was awful. And apparently the show is not going for Jaime's restoration project. I guess he will be Team Cersei until the end, killing Tommen and blowing up the Sept is just something he briefly mentions?

I hope they're setting Jaime up to stab Cersei and trying to make it more dramatic by playing up their relationship. If it is that it's clumsy, but at least it's something. Could also just be that they forgot about that whole character growth thing he had going for a while and decided he's cool with anything so long as he gets to bang his sister.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Nobnob posted:

I can see that Danaerys is not particularly good at this war thing, but at least her advisors and officers should have some idea that the enemy usually does not wait for you to arrive and do your plan.

tbf her advisors are a randomly picked former slave soldier, a spy and a drunk. Too bad she has no one with more military, maybe even command experience.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Solice Kirsk posted:

So since Mel said she is going to die Westeros, think she's gonna be the one that Jon quenches Lightbringer in?

That wouldn't really make sense since the original dude poked the sword into his wife in order to sacrifice something precious to him, so probably yeah that makes sense writer this year show etc.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Yeah I thought CR and pretty much all of the castles have been around since forever. Like isn't King's Landing(or whatever the royal castle itself is called) the newest one and even that''s hundreds of years old.

I guess Tywin got tired of pooping in a bucket and ordered some sewers built. Which of course no one had thought of before.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Parkingtigers posted:

Also, would it have killed Grey Worm to do the sneak attack to open the gate at night, before wasting hundreds of lives storming the walls. You know, like he LITERALLY DID BEFORE THAT ONE TIME WITH JORAH AND DAARIO.

That's one part that makes sense. Sneaking into a castle is all good and fine, but once inside a bunch of obvious foreigners will stand out unless the defenders are distracted. Even if they got to a gate, opening one won't do much unless you have a bunch of dudes right outside it waiting to get in.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
I can't wait to see how useless the dragons will be in an actual battle. By all reason they should be the fantasy equivalent of nukes, but I'm guessing one of them gets sniped with the first shot of that ballista(there will only be that one because props are expensive ok), after which the mortally wounded dragon flies a thousand miles north to die right next to the Night King.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Being burned alive and giant predatory animals are two things that are gonna be scary to people no matter the time and place, fictional or otherwise. The rookie soldiers Lannister are down to by now(as evidenced by cameo by some popstar everyone was freaking out about two weeks ago) would have to have gone through some serious training to stand their ground and take shots at a dragon.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Cornflakes posted:

Theon just went straight back to Pyke again and fell right in with Yara, especially after she tried to rescue him and said he was dead to her etc.

I always thought he should've just gone "gently caress these gay islands" and headed back north the first time he got back. I mean would you rather live with a loving, if kinda dumb, family or with a bunch of surly assholes on a lovely island.

First thing when he gets back is his sister playing a gross sexual prank on him, followed by his dad calling him a loser for wearing a shirt he didn't take off a murdered fisherman. I think at that point you just :sever:

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
It's pretty dang blurry. I'll have to rewatch the battle scene when it's out properly.

Shockingly though this episode was pretty good. Bran gets a wheelchair and doubles down on autism, and Jon finds some really convenient children of the forest graffiti, but apart from that it works. Danny does the only smart thing she's done by taking a dragon and the dothraki and mulching Jaime's army. Food is mentioned as a thing that actually matters for armies(then Danny burns all the food but hey at least they tried).

Bronn laughs at Dickon's name, further cementing his position as Best Character.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Didn't arrows pretty much bounce off the dragon's scales? It was too blurry to know for sure, but it seemed like anything short of a siege weapon would need to nail one in the eye to do any damage. The rider could get hosed up easily though.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Oliver Reed posted:

I'm sure I missed it but when and how did the characters (Jon, at least) learn the name 'Night King' and determine his role as leader of the dead?

They read the script. Duh. :rolleyes:

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

some guy on the bus posted:

For the people saying it's good, what did you think about the other episodes this season?

This is hard to believe.

Other episodes this season have been dumb and boring. This one was dumb and fun. It felt like the show embraced its schlocky nature for once.

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bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

RCarr posted:

People who have watched the next episode(s), tell me which little known characters to pick up on my game of thrones fantasy team (fantasora.com) so I can get some points!

If the fantasy league counts kills you should pick Danny(or her dragon if that's an option) because she roasts a whole bunch of dudes.

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