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I rewatched the series recently, for me the whole thing is entertaining. It's definitely a different thing for those middle episodes of season 2, less Lynchian, but I still enjoy the wackiness and overall it's very watchable for me. Agreed the green stuff on the chart there is way better though, and the show ends really really strong with a Lynch directed ep. Can't wait for the new stuff this Sunday, it looks so drat good. Been waiting years for some new Lynch, and it being Twin Peaks is pretty sweet too.
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Your mileage will vary, but if you find it doable I'd give three or four of those red episodes a try to see. For me it did have a lull right after the green area there ends, but it bounced back I found. Overall a dip in quality for one of the top TV shows ever is still some worthwhile TV. And I wouldn't want to miss any Michael Parks, David Warner, hell, some quality Billy Zane...
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Jerusalem posted:Any excuse to watch Blue Velvet again is fine by me v Plus it's an excuse to see Dean Stockwell in his prime! Stato-Masochist posted:Lost Highway is obviously the penultimate viewing, and then you watch Island Empire. Are you trying to get people confused or....what? Very true, and I love that Balthazar Getty is on the new Twin Peaks cast list too. Plus Naomi Watts and whatnot of course, it's gonna be a David Lynch party.
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Deakul posted:I'll probably check out Mulholland Drive since it's on Netflix, I always did mean to see more Lynch movies... it's just that everyone says they're all so surreal and hard to watch that it sort of put me off. Definitely give Blue Velvet a watch! It's been mentioned already, but it has a lot of the magic that Twin Peaks has. Very dark and very Lynch, but I think accessible, the least "out there" of the other movies mentioned. Plus that Kyle MacLachlan charm and curiosity etc. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 06:11 on May 19, 2017 |
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Two Worlds posted:First of all, you're wrong because FWWM is one of Lynch's best films, and the pivotal moment in his filmography, with incredible performances. I like it, but for me it's his 5th best movie. I have a poster for it too, just saying. Very very pumped for this by the way!
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I rewatched both Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive for the first time in years today to get ready for new Twin Peaks. Man, those make little to no sense while watching them, but they're fascinating when you fit all the pieces together in your mind afterwards. They go from seemingly making no sense to making complete sense, it just takes some thought to get there. Yeah, great great movies. Nobody pulls off that kind of surreal dreamlike heightened reality like Lynch, he makes it all feel really natural and you go with the flow. Wherever he takes us. I just rewatched Fire Walk With Me for preperation, man that's a relentless tense movie. David is a lot of things, a master of horror is one of them. I'm sure we'll see some fun stuff, and some crazy scary stuff over the coming weeks. Can't wait to see what they've cooked up for us.
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Confounding Factor posted:It's like Mulholland Drive meets Eraserhead and Lost Highway and Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks rolled up in one. Caseman posted:Hilarious, campy, mysterious, intriguing, and loving terrifying. Agreed with both of those at the same time! Just watched the first double shot of episodes, this is so drat good! It's Lynch doing what he does best, can't wait to see all the wild scenes and what the bigger picture is overall by the end of it.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I think a lot of viewers just want to feel comfortable, when the whole point of Twin Peaks has always been that comfort is a thin layer on top of a gruesome darkness. Empress Brosephine posted:If you were a fan of the tv shows charm and chemistry and hated FWWM you are going to really hate this. This show for me feels like a good time. FWWM I always find tough (while good), with it's relentless tension and horrificness. While this show has some really in your face horror scenes, for me it's done in a fun way overall, and feels very cinematic and dreamlike. While FWWM is too, somehow it was more uncomfortable and just really scary, very real look at horrific stuff. This gives me something like the feelings I get from Twin Peaks (Lynch episodes), Lost Highway, Mulholland Dr, and Blue Velvet, where it's out there but it's oddly comforting to watch. It's kind of fun, underneath the weirdness. I think an underlying humor and sense of fun is somehow in most of Lynch's dark noir kind of stuff. (Dark noir would be a funny band name) I'd even say for me, this new show is less dark than the pilot of Twin Peaks, which was at times a fairly heavy look at loss. This show I feel like I'm in a David Lynch playground, which is where I wanna be. Granted those couple full on horror scenes are some of the most intense out there, but overall the show just feels really fun to me. Very entertaining, can't wait to see what's next. Just felt like chiming in on how I don't feel much discomfort with this show, where I do with FWWM and Inland Empire. While I could see it making sense to approach it like there's "normal" TV Lynch and very intense dark Lynch for example, there are more flavors than just those two along the way. And this feels very different and to me more fun than FWWM, and it has more humor as well. Could not be happier with this show, it's reminiscent of some of my favorite Lynch movies, while also being Twin Peaks. And it was not a known thing that Lynch would even be directing another movie, and here we get 18 hour long episodes from him. Wowsers. egon_beeblebrox posted:Holy gently caress, Michael Cera. Instant classic performance, I've got to show this scene to friends who aren't Lynch fans, who wouldn't be sold on that? Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 06:19 on May 24, 2017 |
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Lord Krangdar posted:Do you guys think the Cooper doppelganger in this season is meant to be BOB? So far it doesn't seem like it. Only the "How's Annie?" scene in the previous finale seems to suggest that (because of the mirror image), but everything else makes it seem like the doppelganger, not BOB, replaced Coop. The only other explanation I can think of is that BOB is simply sick of his endless hedonistic quest for garmanbozia, and its worn down his maniacal personality. Whether DoppelCoop is Bob is a good question. Being sort of a vigilante or something at times (not sure of the full big picture) makes him seem different from Bob, and there is some Coopishness to him at times. While the story he told Gordon and Albert about being deep undercover feels off, it doesn't feel outright untrue either. With Leland and Bob, it felt like Bob literally possessed Leland, and was another personality. Granted also being a metaphor or whathaveyou. This feels different. Maybe over twenty five years things have evolved, maybe Bob unleashed DoppelCoop and went off to another planet somewhere, who knows. Maybe the focus is off of the old Bob thing and onto new places. Though it being Bob would be cool with me as well. boner confessor posted:both prostitutes and casino workers often deal with drunk, high, and hosed up people To be fair, his wife also rolled with it in humorous fashion.
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Lord Krangdar posted:I always assumed he was a manifestation of Leland's memories of the neighbor Robert who, it was implied, abused him as a child. Like the cycle of abuse given form in the real world. I look at it sort of with the behind-the-scenes info in mind, of how Dave did it. We know he just saw the guy in the crew, that thing with him being in the mirror etc, and put him into the story, and rolled with that. So I don't know that there'd be such a normal logical answer to Bob and his appearance. Do we think of Mike as having stolen somebody's body/appearance? Been a bit, I forget if that was spelled out. We know Bob can possess people, and wanted to posses Laura, so I agree that kind of explanation does make sense. Just I don't know that Bob's origins would make sense.
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Lord Krangdar posted:I don't really see how that changes anything. What I mean is, logically I see why somebody would say Bob probably got his look from the guy from Leland's childhood. But there's also no reason in particular to think that is true. Not that you shouldn't, since we're supposed to interpret it as we will. Also the guy looks like an 80s drifter or something, I picture somebody different for Leland's neighbor in the 50s or whenever it would be. Thanks for the Mike reminder also. Lord Krangdar posted:In the show, yeah, but in the film it seemed more like he was in control and knew exactly what he was doing. He just gave into temptation. Even in the film they feel like different personalities. Like that scene when he was crying and talking to Laura, and she was almost surprised to see her dad. Because they're two different people. Or it's one way of looking at it anyway, how I saw it. Granted that's symbolism and metaphor for messed up people etc, here we're talking about how we think Bob works to figure how it ties into the plot of the new Twin Peaks. Though how it worked then and now might be different as well. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 07:22 on May 24, 2017 |
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On if somebody new could enjoy this show, from a couple pages ago. I think so, at least somebody who would enjoy Mulholland Drive or Lost Highway, etc. It'd be a pretty niche thing possibly, but I could see fans of this sort of thing rolling with it. Even though we know who Coop is and we get an extra kick out of seeing the classic characters, I think if I wasn't already a Twin Peaks fan I could still enjoy this as sort of a Mulholland Drive-esque mysterious TV show. (Also fun that Mulholland Drive was almost a TV show)
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Inadequate Areolas posted:HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH This is already the best show ever, imagine what they'll give us over these coming months! My goodness!
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ruddiger posted:Seeing Cole with Booper (Bob Cooper) made me a little fearful for him, even with Coop locked up in the box. There's a couple characters who are pretty removed from the blackness of the show (Lucy and Andy), and it fills me with dread whenever they're close to be exposed to it. I've wondered if we'll see Lucy and Andy in some nightmarish situation, would definitely be crossing some streams. So many places they can go with this show. Since we've been so engrossed in the Coop story and overall weird stuff going on, I wonder what characters like Shelly, James, and Ben Horne who we've only seen briefly will be up to. And what that Balthazar Getty guy will be up to. There's still 14 episodes to play with.
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eSporks posted:I think I am alone in that I actually liked Windom Earle. He reminds me of Sheogorath from Elder Scrolls. Just pure chaotic neutral insanity. Now I know this is an evergreen point of debate, but doesn't killing Ted Raimi make you chaotic evil as opposed to neutral?
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EmmyOk posted:I'm taking the day off work tomorrow for my birthday and I'm finally gonna sit down and watch. Is it good pals? Oh it's drat good! Like the poster above said, if you're into Lynch's surreal movies I think you'll be having a good time here.
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moist turtleneck posted:Maybe David Lunch should take some pointers from a real director like Michael Bay and have way more awesome splosions!! Both David and Michael knew Nic Cage was the best thing going in the 90s, so they've got one thing in common at least.
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Empress Brosephine posted:You guys were mentioning Legion in this thread is it good Also check out the movie The Guest starring that guy, 80s/90s-ish fun genre movie (thriller/slasher/quirkiness etc) good times.
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spudsbuckley posted:/the next 14 episodes turn out to be an extreme close-up of David Lynchs face whilst he laughs into the camera for 14 hours solid in between wheezing "you loving rubes". Just for some clarity here, do you at least like Blue Velvet? On the attempt to roast the experimental surreal stuff, I'll just say it's not true to say his fans will like anything. I can't say I'll see Inland Empire a second time (his fully experimental unscripted movie). But overall he's my favorite filmmaker. Do you like Cronenberg? How about Repo Man or River's Edge? What's the most off-kilter movie or TV that you do enjoy?
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Escobarbarian posted:Why are you trying to engage with someone who is only here to shitpost and derail the discussion I think with a bit of can do attitude, we can get this guy into Lynch. Finer arts posters having a rock talk. He ain't heavy. He's my brother. But yeah, I don't get the idea that a Lynch fan would like anything he makes. But it's a common idea for detractors, the main page IMDb review for Inland Empire says something about 3 hours of traffic cam footage saying A David Lynch Film would get good reviews. I just don't think that's true, don't get that approach. But, I don't like some Kurosawa movies, thought Ran was boring, everybody has different takes on things. I don't get the vehement anti-Lynch thing though, I'm just curious how much Lynch they've tried. And this kind of genre in general. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 20:24 on May 24, 2017 |
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spudsbuckley posted:"Wally Brando is the best thing i have ever seen on TV because i'm an absolute loving retard!!!!!!!!" said TVIV. Do you at least appreciate Scott Pilgrim vs the World? How about Michael Cera's small role in Children's Hospital, that was great. I love Wally Brando for the record.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Scott Pilgrim was a lovely movie and I didn't care for Wally Brando either. I do love this show though. Is Billy Zane coming back? I am offended on Michael's behalf, highly offended, but we can agree Billy Zane is often quite entertaining. It would be a hoot if that character returned, I don't remember him being on the cast list. Oddly enough both Matthew Lilard and Billy Zane gave very funny performances in Uwe Boll movies.
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What are we gonna do for two weeks! I recommend Naked Lunch to anybody who hasn't seen that. Plus both that and Twin Peaks got roasted/honored early on in The Simpsons.
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My personal belief system, Harry Dean Stanton hasn't been in a bad movie. Granted I have not seen Cockfighter (1974)
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Under the vegetable posted:David Lynch is an extremely symbol-minded director who, despite his coy joking about how there's no one right way to interpret his movies, has a very specific idea he's getting across most of the time. David Lynch is synonymous with there being hidden or obscured information that must be teased out, not putting nonsense on screen for no reason. Little bit of column A, little bit of column B. Just because somebody doesn't look at it in the same way or as literally doesn't mean they think it's nonsense for example. You look at it that he has a very specific thing he's getting across, but I wouldn't be surprised if he often can't explain why something works, he just feels it works. And different people may get something different out of it. I do think analyzing details like the number stuff is interesting, but I also don't think his stuff overall has one specific way of looking at it. He's the king of dreamlike surreal movies, might as well have some room for interpretation. It's interesting that you consider him to be coyly joking though, I think he's being sincere. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 15:02 on May 25, 2017 |
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He's funny in how he won't answer what he doesn't want to etc, true. Saying he's joking when he contradicts your view on his movies is another thing.
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kaworu posted:Cooper did say something to her about following human nature - is she another black lodge entity somehow, perhaps possessed. Is her husband? Agreed for sure that it's like 18 Birthday presents, pretty wonderful that this ended up happening (again)!
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To see if David Lynch's more surreal stuff would be up your alley in general, could watch Mulholland Drive for a primer. And of course Blue Velvet (less surreal but must see), Lost Highway, and more.
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kaworu posted:Also - on a random note I am sure people noticed Cooper noticing the "Sycamore St" sign while getting a ride from Jade (lol). I thought this was a very positive sign vis-a-vis Cooper's mental state, because he must on some level remember all the details of him time in the Black Lodge/Red Room/etc, given that the first thing he saw upon entering the Red Room in the finale was the Late Great Jimmy Scott doing his thing with "Under the Sycamore Tree," as I'm sure we all recall. I didn't recall what song that was, didn't quite stick in the memory like Candy Colored Clown (In Dreams) from Blue Velvet. Thanks for pointing out these findings, cool stuff. Catsplosion posted:drat good coffee! And hot! Arguably too hot though he may have wanted to let it cool down a little!
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My favorite one line teaser for a thing is what Pizzolatto said about True Detective season 2. It’s about “hard women, bad men and the secret occult history of the United States transportation system", if only the season lived up to that glorious sentence.
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Franchescanado posted:Totally didn't catch that. For sure, that was just magic how that played out. The coffee stuff in general is drat funny. basic hitler posted:I fuckin' love David Lynch Well said! pyrotek posted:This show is as far ahead of its time as the original Twin Peaks was. I can barely believe that is possible. Very true, I don't know how many can do what David Lynch is doing, but even top tier TV today can be a bit formulaic in presentation. Episode 5 here is amazing, watching some other TV shows it's like a breath of fresh air too. It's interesting to hear some say this feels slow paced, but for me it doesn't at all. When it's over I want more, like it ended all too soon. I think it's because each scene is done so uniquely well by Lynch, I'm intrigued and want to see where each scene goes. American Gods (a show I do like also) feels a lot slower to me for example, probably just because the way it's done feels less interesting/captivating to me in comparison. This show is too good! It's making TV look bad. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Basticle posted:I think this is my favorite 2 minutes of television of all time I notice the upload says interrupted by the wife, I got the impression she was his sister in the scene. Maybe from her saying "dad needs a ride", though it doesn't necessarily mean it's both of their dad (and Harry's). Could go either way from the dialogue unless I missed a bit. Great scene! That drug guy getting chewed out in his interview was also great. And Tom Sizemore. Every scene.
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He also directed a few of the best TV episodes ever in that season, and I've enjoyed albums that bands ended up not being proud of etc. I enjoyed it enough to watch all of it twice. I agree there's a dip in the middle of S2 though. wint/dril is the best tweeter, gotta love self-deprecating absurd humor.
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Confounding Factor posted:Guys Dougie works at Lucky 7 insurance...and the next episode is #7...hmmm I like the sound of this. G-III posted:Cocaine karate. This episode is amazing That was the coolest anyone has ever acted, I've gotta bring hand gestures like Revolver Ocelot and whatnot into my life. This episode is terrific by the way! David Lynch and Mark Frost and friends, thank you.
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Best thing on TV in years I'd say, like a new David Lynch movie every week, it's the best. Nothing in art/entertainment works for everybody, it's all good.
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:Good. The reveal was perfect and it led to Lynch making an amazingly good movie. It is interesting that at times some guidelines can help. For example on Blue Velvet he was given final cut and could do anything he wanted, but knew Dino didn't want it to be over two hours. Not that he necessarily had a three hour movie in mind, but that worked out. SeANMcBAY posted:I wouldn't change anything about this magical TV show. But on the other hand, it could be a nice nostalgia fest for us Mulholland Drive fans. It is pretty much more David Lynch movie greatness in the direction they had been going, only with a script co-written by Mark Frost and a bit more of a noticeable through line than Inland Empire. Agreed on not changing a thing, it's great that this happened. For me it feels like a warm David Lynch blanket, there could be some nostalgia to that, since it was a good 10-15 years ago I was getting into his movies.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I mean yeah, he's maladjusted, but he also doesn't know how to do or say almost anything for himself. He's imitating what people do and say and he's fascinated by little trivial things. Hell yeah, motorin'! Take Dougie's broken wings and learn to fly again! Hot drat this season is good TV, Lynch is still on! Crazy to think we're getting 18 episodes. Anything could happen!
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That giant laughing investigator guy with Champ from Anchorman is great though. I love all the really funny awkward pauses people have, like that one on the stairs with Lynch and the other agents.
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Jerusalem posted:I think I've rewatched,"I AM the FBI" at least a dozen times now Hell yeah! This season has been incredible all around, and this episode was a major slam dunk. Everything about how they handled this was terrific. The two part finale on Sunday will be one of the best movies of the century. And this season is the best 18 hour movie ever.
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