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Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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How was that even up for discussion?

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Flesh Forge
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Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Crabtree posted:

I want that DNC's guy family to sue hannity and win.

They probably have a reasonable defamation case, even though the story is about the dead guy Fox made a lot of noise about how the family members were trying to cover it up.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Crabtree posted:

Didn't that fat sack of poo poo try to email them to try and create false evidence? I'm pretty sure that's at least Stalking if not harassment of the whole family to try and turn them into the next Vilerat's Mom.

Kim Dot Com is just some fat guy hiding in New Zealand, he's a little harder to sue successfully, but I doubt Rich's family would have a hard time finding a lawyer to go against Fox.

e: Fox treating him as a credible source is probably good evidence for them actually lol

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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glowing-fish posted:

I've heard about this "big shakeup" for a while, but actually, Trump seems to be very reticient about changing staff. The only person who has really been fired is Michael Flynn. Other than that, some minor reshuffling.

I am not saying it can't happen, I am just saying that I don't really think it will happen until it does, because there have been so many mess-ups that have gone totally unchallenged.

He hasn't really been that reluctant to fire Obama era staff, but there's only so many of those you can get rid of before you have nobody left who knows how to work the slide projector or whatever

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Rinkles posted:

Spicer's fumblings became the spectacle. Not the stories of Trump's supernal dogoodery.

I was never sure if Trump made the ratings comment sarcastically.

He has talked about how important ratings are to him dozens of times, both before and after the election.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Kushner really has no qualifications whatsoever does he. When was the last time nepotism was so baldly overt? Bobby Kennedy at least passed the bar before becoming AG.

Neither does most of the rest of his staff, #withfewexceptions

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Claiming Viking lineage is probably just old school Nazi/Aryan white power stuff.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Wang_Tang posted:

The newest hot take regarding the Portland attacker goes even deeper...

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/868674921882308609

Hahaha, if there's one thing this guy Jeremy Christian is very consistent about, it's that he hates Antifa.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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RandomBlue posted:

Someone have the altrightdictionary link handy?

The ADL list is very thorough

https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols#.WHVArbYrL6Y

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Autism Sneaks posted:

I can imagine a stupid, violent shithead who just got a hard-on watching O'Keefe "bust" Planned Parenthood on Fox News deciding to make pretend that they're some brilliant provocateur and joining Antifa just to clandestinely get people beat up by cops

Uh, pretty much all recorded video of him and most of his Facebook poo poo is "I hate Antifa and I want to beat them up and unmask them" :shrug:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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business hammocks posted:

Why would an antisemite vote for jewish grandpa Bernie Sanders?

Lemme lay this one on you: motherfucker's crazy. :shrug:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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703 posted:

Real question is was he crazy enough to not be given access to guns. Imagine if this fucker had a gun instead of a knife that day.

Let's check in with our good friend Wayne LaPierre and get his opinion:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/how-nra-has-responded-mass-shootings-over-years-n592551

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Office Pig posted:

Jeez even Tillerson knows how much of an ugly loving American Trump is.

Tillerson is almost as ignorant about international diplomacy as Trump is, no way that came from him.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Archonex posted:

What the gently caress is with this pose? This is hands down the nerdiest professionally done photo I can remember seeing.

"Oh yeah! Back off females. You aren't rich enough to handle this insurance hating sociopath."

More like "whoa, soul brother too beaucoup"

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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I have a hard time believing some high tech bug detection equipment used at the highest level of information security looks that dumb.

e: or maybe it actually does look that dumb!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nfn2mBa4AE

Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 16:00 on May 29, 2017

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Brave China, you try so hard!

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Jesus that's about the most disrespectful and embarrassing thing I think he's done so far. Thanks all you dead guys who would have voted for me, time to jam! :rock:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Vegetable posted:

this isn't that egregious, some folks are gonna love it as a sign of passion or whatever

Yeah it is. Some dumbasses will cheer him on but he's at a fuckin cemetery to Press X to Pay Respects. :911:

Mide posted:

I watched most of the memorial ceremony on the Fox News stream and people were going nuts about how amazing Trump was for just putting his hand over his heart...

I like how he pats himself "Man that's a catchy beat!"

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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PT6A posted:

Do Americans typically not sing the lyrics to their national anthem when it's playing? I mean, it's odd that he's the only one doing it, but other than that it doesn't seem strange.

At a cemetery, at a memorial event attended by relatives and wives/husbands of dead soldiers buried there in service of their nation? No, we typically do not sing along and dance at these occasions.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Boon posted:

The President was singing the National Anthem at a memorial service for fallen soldiers.

You guys need to chill the gently caress out, it's a slow news day but there's nothing wrong with it even if he did look like a child doing it.

It's not exactly a super scandalous thing that would wreck a presidency but no really, it's horribly inappropriate and embarrassing, it would bother me if I saw somebody doing that REGARDLESS of who they were :shrug:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I'm just waiting for him to drop trou or wet himself publicly.

I'm just kinda curious what will happen.

Depends :shrug:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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PT6A posted:

So the problem is with Trump grinning and bobbing and swaying, and tapping along with the beat on his chest, right? Not singing the words?

This may surprise some people, but anthem etiquette differs between countries so this stuff isn't obvious to non-Americans.

I gave you some slack in my answer, I figured. Yes his behavior there is wildly inappropriate.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Rigel posted:

oh, poo poo. Luke Skywalker's not a fan of Trump

https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/869290423369453569

:owned:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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FourLeaf posted:

It's good to learn as much as possible about the thing that's going to kill you.

Why ruin the surprise :shrug:

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Jan 31, 2011

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RandomBlue posted:

coloidal silver

I have a theory that this is why Trump is so generous with the orange spraypaint, it's to cover his argyria

the other reason he wouldn't release details of his medical history :tinfoil:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Pollyanna posted:

Did Hannity ever come back from "vacation"?

He did but he's going whole hog with Kim Doc Tom so I expect he'll be run out of Fox pretty soon.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Apoplexy posted:

Which one's the white supremacist, the retard in a bowtie or the 4'6 fatty

Going to go out on a limb and guess all 4 :shrug:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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highme posted:

Is it too much to ask to have a basic understanding of US civics to post in this thread?

Dude, Civics are Japanese not US :shrug:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Skippy Granola posted:

But, I don't use central heating too much during the winter, don't use A.C. in the summer. I recycle, take short showers and walk to the shops. I bought a low flow toilet and LED bulbs, and I buy local produce as much as possible. Surely I can save the planet!

Can you do me a favor and stop taking showers, I want to water my almond orchard
ps: stop flushing the toilet too plz

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Jan 31, 2011

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my bony fealty posted:

Trump is the crawling chaos at the center of the universe and we are all blind idiot pipers playing eternally around him

Probably the best analogy possible :thumbsup:

e: covfefe-fe! covfefe-fe!

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Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Skippy Granola posted:

But I will get fired from my job at the fracking factory if I'm smelly!

I did a little napkin math and you're going to have to convince your co-workers to all stop showering and flushing their toilets too, but on the plus side if you're all stinky then, well, I'll have almonds :shrug:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Roger Stone shits on Lewandowski on the regular

https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/866893495289737217

https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/868272735075618817

https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/868669602733096960

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Jan 31, 2011

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hanales posted:

I'm confused about the Roger Stone stuff. I thought he was working for Trump during the campaign. Did they have a falling out?

He is extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeemely cynical and self aware but he plays himself off as a flamboyant loose cannon. I think he just enjoys stirring up poo poo since he didn't take a White House position, and that's surely only because he didn't want one, he and Trump have been really tight for decades.

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Jan 31, 2011

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Radish posted:

Too bad one of the big guys at Marvel comics is a huge Trump supporter and has donated a ton of money.

The show on ABC, Agents of SHIELD, did this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udkjeVPWPZ0

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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oohhboy posted:

That dumb gently caress. Everyone knows if you want the president's ear for the next few seconds you advertise on Fox News.

Actually he calls Fox anchors directly now, no joke:

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/870458693006929920

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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axeil posted:

Rural poverty is a really big deal and it's pretty drat depressing. We should be doing more to help people, but I have no idea what the solution is. Coal mining isn't coming back and you can't turn all of Appalachia into tourist locations.

I am a dumb hick from Texas and I suggest this: basic minimum income, free education, and also pay people extra to go to school for particularly valued fields. I.e if you want to be an anthropology major, fine, whatever, but you get extra beer money if you go for industrial engineering or medical skills etc. Every education package, preferred or not, includes How To Be Good At Life classes. Bing bong chronic poverty eradicated in a generation

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

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Hellblazer187 posted:

NIT instead of UBI, and only free college education for particularly valued fields (as determined by BLS*). Universal pre-K. Medicaid for all. That's my version.

Does that version of Democratic Socialism make me a third way centrist shill? It's hard to keep up with how close to FULL COMMUNISM NOW I need to be to be woke these days.

*Bureau of Labor Statistics. I know my av suggests a different BLS.

That leaves arts and humanities unattainable for bottom tier income, do you have any reason for that besides "it's cheaper"?

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Jan 31, 2011

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Captain Monkey posted:

Not to disagree, I actually like your plan better, but NIT would allow for a liberal arts education, it just wouldn't be free. I'd prefer it be free, but it's not unattainable with NIT.

That's a bit of a nitpick though, as your plan is more progressive (no pun intended).

Well the reason I suggest free anything-goes education plus extra pay for preferred fields is imo it's more appealing to the average person than "pay discretionary money for STEM or get STEM for free", I think it would attract more students in both categories if people aren't required to spend their basic minimum/don't make bonus money. If you're going to budget for your minimum income to allow enough for people to pay for their own educations with it, it isn't even really cheaper anyway :shrug:

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Hellblazer187 posted:

Reason 1) It's directly cheaper, since we wouldn't pay for those degrees
Reason 2) I kind of feel like paying for false hopes is not awesome. I have a quarter million in law school debt and I never really got to be a real lawyer (I mean technically I am, I passed the bar and I'm "licensed to practice" but I never got a job in it). So, I'm informed by the experience of wasting several years of my life on something that wasn't going to lead to a career, and law is certainly more viable than most artistic careers. I'd also seek to improve K-12 education so arts and humanities are covered considerably better.
Reason 3) It's also probably indirectly cheaper. The costs of those programs would come down because they wouldn't have free government money flowing into them. The student loan programs are part of the reason education prices have climbed so high, since it's free money for them and feels like free money for an 18 year old (they learn later it isn't!). Leaning those programs could have spillover effects into the job related programs we would pay for directly. I worked in university payroll about 12 years ago and administratively things were quite bloated, with enormous management salaries. This is tenuous, though, so it's a distant 3rd.

It's weird to think this, I know, but maybe a guy drawing funny pictures or singing a rad song or digging up old poo poo in a desert have some value to our society that is in the same ballpark as the guy who makes gasoline pump handles or watches dials in a refinery or writes automation software for self driving cars. If there was a basic social safety net and free education of choice maybe it'd be OK for people to try a career in something ~impractical~ and fail and not be loving ruined for 30 years with a giant pile of student loans they can never pay off.

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Are the best artists the university educated ones? Is that even really necessary for art? Legitimate question.

As a professional artist (lol) I can say pretty comfortably yes, there is no substitute for art education. I wouldn't say the best artists come from educated backgrounds, but it's a huge benefit to study the work and technique of people who have gone before like Michelangelo and DaVinci and Mozart and whatever, and when you're a dumb redneck you probably have never been exposed to any of that, you don't even know what to go teach yourself. It won't necessarily make you good at your field of art but it certainly helps you find out a lot quicker whether you're any good, and it shortcuts many years of wasted time re-inventing basic techniques.

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