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Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

It has to be a fake name, right? Like, who would actually name their child Reality with the last name Winner? I bet her middle name is Show.

I dunno, how many people named their kid "Sephiroth"?

also, does anyone know where i can get hard numbers on how many people named that at birth have now legally changed their names, tia

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Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

skylined! posted:

guys what if petr is right and the president with the lowest approval rating this early in his administration who can't do anything aligned with his cabinet and can't control himself on social media and by all accounts is a complete loving moron and is likely being manipulated by foreign governments and who can't help himself from committing obvious crimes directly in front of senior government officials actually really becomes god king emperor and rules america for 1000 years of golden piss darkness

:ohdear:

"Well at least the loving democrats didn't win."

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Radish posted:

Unlike in America where only certain people can be terrorists it sounds like the police already consider the van attack a terrorist act and it's widely being reported as such so it will be somewhat harder for the right wing to just frame it as a totally weird thing that has no significance whatsoever (not that they won't anyway).

"Oh, so they're willing to call white people terrorists, huh?"

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

If this wins it for them they would have won anyway due to Russian hacking.

Like, there's still a chance.dems.can win, but we're basically reliant on God's grace at this point

God is dead. God is dead, and we have killed him.

Hail Satan.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Love you guys.

I think this song sums up the thread for the past couple of days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE9Uz_YMHnc

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Dick Trauma posted:

Please don't let one idiot troll push the idea that everyone from his generation shares his stupidity. I don't know anyone from Gen X (mid to late '60s births) who talks poo poo about millennials. If anything we identify with many of the problems they've faced.

You haven't been reading right-wing Gen X forums then, like the old Dan Carlin/now Martin Hash one, then.

They loving despise "entitled spoiled millennials" just as much as their "Boomer parents", and are salivating at the idea that Post-Millennials may end up becoming Radical Traditionalists.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

RasperFat posted:

I'm too young to have actually experienced the Reagan presidency, but from what I understand it was much closer to Trump's presidency than any other administration. Reagan was a buffoon who was plagued with scandal, made terrible foreign and domestic policy, and marked a significant change in acceptable rhetoric in politics.

This poo poo was 30 years ago now and that same rear end in a top hat that heralded a turn towards meanness, pettiness, and retardation is too nice, virtuous, and eloquent by Republican standards to even make a blip on the radar.

I really hope the Trump Presidency marks the breaking point for this trend and we start moving back towards sanity.

And he still won reelection, survived an assassination attempt, and was lionized by the right in the decades afterward for it.

Hope is a lie.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

JuniperCake posted:

I think a big difference in the gulf of opinion, is probably where people live. I definitely feel a chord with the "nothing matters" bit because I live in a Purple State and I know a lot of people who do defend everything he does. Oh it's locker room talk, oh he's changed, oh he's an outsider not corrupted by lobbyists, oh his tweets are actually a calculated ploy. Just give it time, he'll go down as one of the best presidents in history!

Like, a whole fuckton of people 100% believe this. If you are surrounded by that poo poo it wears on you. There's probably at least 35% of the population that's like this and they'll probably never change (going by polls but I think it's hard to pin down the exact number). It's enough of a sway that it takes "just enough" apathy or voter suppression to make our entire nation go to poo poo. I suspect for people who live in areas where people are relatively more sane, it's easier to be optimistic.

In short, there's lots to be depressed about but I think how often your attention is brought to this depends on where you live and the kind of people in that area.

Yeah, I live across the river from St Louis, in one of many downstate counties that went Trump despite otherwise usually being Democrat, and the fervent ones will defend Trump up and down, while the "reasonable" folk will say "well, I may not like him that much, but he still won, so these obnoxious kids to to get over it and let him govern already, and we can discuss it all in 2020." Then, if I make the mistake of trying to point out any of the absurd and probably illegal things he's already done in office, they look at me like I'm the one who needs to be committed.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Gun to my head, would I vote for Zuck (which is basically what a Trump v Zuck election would be)? Yes.

Would I vote for him in the primary? If the rest of the Dem candidates were the usual neoliberal spineless trash... yes.

Would I canvas for Zuck? ...I'd have to do a few weeks of soul searching on that one, but I'd at least be willing to try and talk my family and friends into going out to the polls for him.

I didn't like having to vote for Hillary in the 2016 General either, but I still loving turned out and voted for her. Yeah, I would absolutely elect Mark Zuckerberg President of the United States of America, if that's what it took to get Donald John Trump out of the Oval Office. I really would be that loving desperate, and I'd probably melt down when he lost to Trump's reelection with you guys then, too.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Sinteres posted:

What in the world makes you think Zuckerberg is more of a socialist than a typical neolib Democrat?

Nothing at all, but I'd still find him more palatable than the other likely Dem candidates.

...which suddenly makes me understand the 2016 Republican primaries a bit better, gently caress.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Sinteres posted:

I love this idea that robber baron billionaires are looking out for the common man more than Democratic politicians.

Seems like a good reason to reconsider.

On the other hand, if people proved they would turn out for him rather than regular Dem politicians... well, the Republicans proved that's somehow a winning strategy now, and absolutely speaking, I can't imagine he'd be worse at the job than Trump has proved to be.

Lesser of two evils... is still better than the greater evil. Eh. What would we do... stay home and just let Trump win again?

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Zuckerberg also has not actually mentioned any sort of entrance into politics at all in any way. And the only proof is that he's touring around meeting people from a bunch of walks of life. Which seems like it could result in "he's made some new commercials" as much as "he's running for president"

I'm given to understand Zuck chooses to alleviate his Rich White Guy Ennui by spending a year each devoted to some random challenge. Last year, it was AI. This year, apparently, it's behaving like a soulless baby-kissing politician. So, he could be making inroads for a nomination, or he could just be indulging his weird-rear end whims and will promptly be distracted by something else shiny come year's end.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I'd like to reach through the screen and throttle the player for deciding he wanted to try Nightmare Difficulty in Liberal Crime Squad.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Oxxidation posted:

You don't have a choice.

"And in those days, the living will envy the dead..."

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Stairmaster posted:

we genuinely need to hold another constitutional convention

When the Republicans finally win enough state legislatures in 2018, yeah that will certainly happen.

stop making wishes on the monkey's paw, you're only making things worse

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Zero_Grade posted:

I assume he's smart enough to know that if he willingly retires and Trump appoints "Gorsuch 2.0: Even Dumber & More Regressive", history is really, really not going to look favorably on him.

Only if there isn't a purge of the intelligentsia.

Which reminds me, are there any outstanding issues with textbooks conservatives have been dying to bring before a sympathetic Supreme Court?

Paradoxish posted:

Losing Kennedy and having him replaced by someone closer to Gorsuch or Thomas is worth being nervous about. That basically guarantees that if Ginsberg retires or dies the court is going to be overwhelmingly conservative.

On the bright side, we'll hear Republicans complain about "activist judges" a whole lot less often! :v:

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Mustached Demon posted:

If it makes you doom and gloomies feel better the Earths gearing up to retake the planet anyway.

I've actually come to take comfort within the last year in the knowledge that effective human extinction through either nuclear holocaust or climate change is almost certainly inevitable.

The only thing that gives me pause is the worrying possibility some of us might actually escape into space before that happens.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Wark Say posted:

Because following this clown car of an administration gets tiresome? Gotta learn to just... shut down this whole poo poo-sandwich for a while.

And then some rear end in a top hat at work or family member suddenly bursts in and reminds you of how terrible everything is anyway.

When everyone won't shut up about it, it becomes kind of inescapable, short of becoming a hermit.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

enraged_camel posted:

To each his own I guess. I personally look forward to every day even more now. Seeing what kinds of stupid, horrible poo poo will happen next is pretty exciting. Watching the optimists cling on to hope is icing on the cake.

Hey, if the world's gonna burn anyway, might as well unfold the lawnchair, pop open a cold one, kick back and enjoy the show while it lasts.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I have in my hand breaking news that there was, in fact, a Ninth Man at that fateful meeting!



Unfortunately, he exploded shortly into the proceedings, so we'll have to wait for the FBI's Super Psychic Squad to get done before we can find out what his deal was.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Gorelab posted:

I'm honestly surprised how partisan net neutrality is. Usually when it's something that has big corporations on either side you get a lot more people who are basically deciding based on which ever side is the bigger donor or more important to their state's economy rather than hard core partisanship.

It wasn't until the Great Insanification of 2016-17 turned every single policy matter in politics into a life-and-death struggle for ideological supremacy.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Mendrian posted:

The example RWM keeps throwing around is Google; that Google has been making money off of data selling and prioritization for years so why can't Comcast, the industrial giant who controls our infrastructure, make some extra dough on what you browse and pass the savings onto you, the consumer?

The fact that Comcast/Xfinity, Literally the Worst Company Ever(TM) will instantly use this to charge even more money for their already insane packages never seems to come up for some reason.

When you tell libertarians that their ideal for getting the government out of, say, roads and transportation will probably result in literally every highway, street, and avenue becoming an separate, individually owned toll road, their reaction tends to boil down to "yeah, so?"

Not a surprise they consider that actually happening to the internet to be A Good Thing.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Jaxyon posted:

All of the dudes who are like "I need my gun to defend my property" are now both more likely to get their poo poo stolen by the police, and more likely to get shot by the police.

Paradoxically, this makes their argument slightly more reasonable.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Fangz posted:

They think they will control whatever history is written.

This is one of the things the Republican voting base has been clamoring for for years now, yes.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Covok posted:

Serious question: has anyone heard any regret in real life from person they know was an adamant supporter? It make it interesting barometer for how his base is holding up. Not very scientific though.

"But her emails."

Not a single Trump supporter I know has openly regretted their vote. They just get increasingly angry whenever the subject of the Presidency is even mentioned. Even seemingly light-hearted jokes at the President's expense are seen as direct, personal attacks on them.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Avirosb posted:

I'm okay with this.

You're not related to them, or have to listen to them obliquely threaten you with reporting your rear end to "the authorities" for your "subversive, unpatriotic" behavior.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

WeAreTheRomans posted:

This is where you start screaming "bish call the cops i don't give a gently caress" and pull your top off

It's generally where I attempt to change the subject, then leave later that night and try to avoid them for months afterward, like usual.

My extended family and I have always hated each other, it's just now the political climate has shifted to the point where it's become a useful cudgel for them to wield against me. In this case, at least, they're not terrible people because they're Trump voters, they're Trump voters because they're terrible people.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

WeAreTheRomans posted:

Never underestimate how much a good :sever: can improve your life

They know where I live, and also where my immediate family members live. Harder to disengage when everyone you care about are also considered valid targets.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

I, too, vote we make being "Very Concerned" official national policy.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Can't wait for them to primary each other into oblivion and do the Republicans jobs for them.

Never underestimate the Democrat knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

business hammocks posted:

The republicans are certainly demonstrating this is by no means particular to a specific party any longer.

Thankfully, the nature of a Two-Party System and FPTP voting means you don't necessarily have to win, you just have to lose less than the other guy.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I honestly can't imagine being a kid growing up in these Trump years. How can any kid take their parents' and teachers' moral and life lessons seriously when the Leader of the Free World proves every single day everything they're saying they need to learn about life is complete bullshit?

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Robot Hobo posted:

How does one even gently caress up something this simple? It's a generic "look at these good kids" speech, and somehow he's wandered into sex, hot people at his party, shouting about the media, electoral maps...

Trump truly is omnifallible.

I think such a speech would require Trump to understand why the Scouts, on paper at least, are a good idea.

Or that kids in general are a good thing beyond enriching your own interests.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

lol congrats on killing the boy scouts

I'm suddenly quite glad my (private Catholic) school killed the program before I got past Webelows.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Lote posted:

The die hards are about 20-30%. When W ratings were taking, they were in the 20s. For the most part, Trump is President at a time of prosperity. He has had relatively few crises during his Presidency to screw up. If the health care bill passes, I imagine his approval will plummet when people realize that their premiums just went up 40-50%+

It's the Suicide Bomber mentality: they'll accept their own demise as long as they believe they'll take at least as many city slickers/liberals/coasters/whatever to the grave with them.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

theres a will theres moe posted:

Gore is popping up because he's promoting a sequel to an inconvenient truth.

Jokes on him, the masses will always prefer a reassuring lie to an inconvenient truth, every time.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
A large chunk of that 38% only truly have three "deal-breaker" expectations of Trump and the GOP:

- Keep Democrats out of the White House
- Keep Democrats out of majorities in the House and Senate
- Maintain the conservative majority in the Supreme Court

As long as they literally just keep seats warm with their wrinkly old white asses, they'll mark down any polls as "satisfied" at the least. It's only once their party starts actually losing seats in election results to the extent they cede power back to Democrats that the knives truly come out from them.

See: The Tea Party.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Can't wait for the thread meltdown when the grand jury ultimately concludes "nothing to see here, let's all move along".

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

PT6A posted:

How is it that a bunch of poor countries have very high levels of literacy and education, then?

If Cuba can hit 99.7% literacy, then quite frankly, literally every part of America really should be able to do it too. They are poor as gently caress yet educate their citizens well.

Intellectuals are greatly distrusted in America, especially in red states, and particularly teachers and professors.

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Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Avalanche posted:

I'm assuming some smart person somewhere had the loving foresight to pull some Korean college students out of MIT/Stanford, get them up to speed on N Korean dialect, give them some military training, and insert them in country to spy/observe/sabotage all of N Korean's poo poo.

Wait no, this is the 21st century. I'm sure some smart person somewhere had the loving foresight to convince some US/South Korean computer company that contracts out manufactoring to Foxcom design a ton of backdoors/vulnerabilities into some random computer components so we could eventually cripple N. Korea's entire command and control structure if we need to. Right? RIGHT?


Somewhere, some place in the world (probably Utah), there is probably a band of goons in the CIA or the NSA watching Kim Jung Un take a poo poo around the clock because the clock itself has a loving wireless chip and camera embedded into the minute hand.

Wait no, that takes up too much manpower, maintenance of the top secret security clearances of the people required for that kind of poo poo probably costs millions, the republicans are in office, and we don't have the budget for that kind of poo poo anymore. Somewhere, some place in the world (for sure Utah), there is probably some massive server farm with some machine learning program closely monitoring when Kim Jung Un is about to take a poo poo which then forwards an alert to some DoD IT Security company that contracts out techs to some random Indian IT company unbeknownst to anyone that employees some Indian dude eating curry at his desk getting ready to take a poo poo watching Kim Jun Un take a poo poo.


Yea, we're hosed

Source your quotes.

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