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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Macarius Wrench posted:

Serious question: why are such a high proportion of SA users Labour voters?

Have you seen GBS? This thread is the last refuge of those very few SA users that are left-leaning.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Mr. Flunchy posted:

Currently smiling as I remember all those smug Tories chortling about spending £3 to vote Corbyn.

Hahaha I'd forgotten about this. Can someone dig up the telegraph article encouraging all their readers to do this?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Lord of the Llamas posted:

I hope you get interviewed on TV after Corbyn wins.

"How do you feel about Corbyn beating May?"

"I'm glad she's dead"

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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ShredsYouSay posted:

He's Ukips education spokesman. Words fail me.

I can think of one: what an utter cockwomble

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Private Speech posted:

What happened to Bozza the train man who used to post here? I've seen a bunch of more longtime posters here recently which made me wonder.

His level crossing post was pretty great.

He was privatised.

He'll still make posts but it'll cost £5.48 for each post (and any follow up posts relating to the original post)

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Thanks Ants posted:

Would the Tories really intentionally manoeuvre themselves away from a position of power just because they know Brexit is going to be a disaster? They seem like the 'power above all else' types.

Depends if they're the "delayed gratification" type. A brexit disaster (aka brexit) could guarantee them a lot of power in the future. A weak Corbyn government likely will not get a lot done and will be sabotaged at every turn.

On the other hand, May will be discredited even if Tories come out well in the long run - so it surely can't be her plan. Why would she sacrifice herself for the good of others? Tories don't do that sort of thing.

I rather like the idea (proposed by someone earlier in the thread) that they want to be the largest party, but want to do badly enough that they have to take the LibDems into coalition, forcing them to make the concession of abandoning brexit (oh nooooo not brexit, we really really wanted to do the brexit, oh well never mind eh, you win some you lose some :geno:) yet still retaining power. But as much as I like it, it's conspiratorial garbage

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

I haven't had a single person knock on my door and beg for my vote so far. Disappointed.

Post your address, we'll send namtab round. You can seduce each other

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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WeAreTheRomans posted:

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Something makes me think it's not really all about squirrels

I bet any given grey squirrel has more UK-resident generations behind it than one of these fuckers.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Bloody greys, comin' over here, taking our nuts and dropping anchor pups

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Kurtofan posted:

why did may call the election lol

She was walking in a field in Wales one weekend and saw a sheep poo poo all over itself and said to her aide "hold my beer"

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Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

I'm comfortable agreeing with that.

Yeah I bet you are, especially as "wins big" could be literally anything (and will likely be N+1 seats where N is the seats actually won)

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Jul 6, 2007

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The DPRK posted:

You won't necessarily find anything on the Conservatives website with reference to "nine facts". It's possible to write a headline for an Adwords ad that bears no relation to the words written on the page it links to (although this is more costly).

I like that it's nine facts. Ten would not be credible, too convenient a number. But nine? Sounds accurate.

Maybe they're banking on people just seeing the headline and taking it at face value without clicking.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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This is Bad4Corbyn

did i do it right

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Jose posted:

i liked the bloke who was of the belief that if corbyn launched nukes it would stop the ones already on their way to us

Wasn't there a fanciful plan during the cold war to have nuclear missiles capable of doing this? ICBM interception wasn't really possible with conventional missiles but with a nuke you just need to detonate it near enough the incoming warhead to knock it off course, render it incapable of detonating or just destroy outright.

I might have imagined that though. "Fanciful cold war nuke ideas" were ten a penny back then, and all equally laughable.

What's everyone's favorite pie-in-the-sky nuke idea? I quite like the "let's put nuclear land mines in east Europe" one

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Strom Cuzewon posted:

"Strong and stable" does sound like the slogan on a packet of viagra.

If your Tory government lasts for more than 5 years please consult a doctor (if you can find one lol)

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Question: why hasn't Germany or Brazil or Iceland been nuked yet? They don't have nukes, so I don't understand why nobody has nuked them safe in the knowledge that they wouldn't retaliate.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

Germany and Iceland are in NATO.

Oh right. Are we in NATO? Maybe we don't a leader willing to launch nukes if we're in NATO.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

You're asking me if the UK is in NATO?

It was a rhetorical question. Of course we're in NATO, and by your admission nobody would nuke us because we're in NATO, so our deterrent works even if we don't have nukes or we have a leader not willing to use them.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

If every NATO member adopted that attitude then there would be a NATO.

But Corbyn isn't running for prime minister of every NATO member.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

I don't follow your point.

Also I meant to say wouldn't, not would.

The discussion at hand, unless I'm mistaken, is "does it compromise the UK deterrent if Corbyn is unwilling to use nukes"

We've established that a) being a member of NATO is sufficient to maintain the deterrent and b) but only if other NATO members are willing to use nukes c) Corbyn is not running for leader of any other NATO members so b is not a concern

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

If the UK is unwilling to use its nuclear deterrent then it has no nuclear deterrent and is not fulfilling its role to help protect other NATO member states.

Iceland has no nuclear deterrent - is it "not fulfilling its role to help protect other NATO member states"?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

If it was to refuse to use what resources it has as it's disposal to fulfil its NATO obligations then it would be.

Article 5 says

"if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area."

The UK could fulfill its obligation while deeming a nuclear retaliation unnecessary.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

Well, obviously. The point of NATO isn't to respond to any threat with a nuclear strike.

Perhaps Corbyn has considered all possible scenarios and has deemed nuclear retaliation to be unnecessary in all of them.

NATO obligations: fulfilled.

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Jul 6, 2007

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hakimashou posted:

Why is "I would not retaliate, I would hope America does on our behalf" an admirable position?

Nuclear socialism? Share the nukes?

I'm merely pointing out that the nuclear deterrent is not compromised by Corbyn being PM (personally I'm in favour of NATO having a nuclear deterrent)

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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hakimashou posted:

If Britain can maintain its own atomic weapons then doesn't "from each according to his ability" confer some obligation?

lol i don't remember that part of the communist manifesto

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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hakimashou posted:

Does that make his position admirable?

I'll let others decide that, I don't give a rat's arse about that particular aspect of the discussion.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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crispix posted:

My policy would be for all vehicles in the UK to be equipped with giant pillows on every panel. Initiative would be supported by on the spot fines for people who start a sentence with "at the end of the day".

What would you do with all the left-over money?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Got my vote in for David Lammy. He's a good egg.

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Jul 6, 2007

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namesake posted:

Then they will learn to like him. Quickly.

Especially when the Tories deliver a good, hard brexit directly into everyone's assholes.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Jul 6, 2007

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Lobstertainment posted:

Local labour candidate helped my nan with a broken leg to the polling office. Bless.

How did she vote?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Steve2911 posted:

Politician drags wounded elderly to the polls to secure votes.

Politician breaks elderly woman's leg, promises to break remaining leg if vote "in wrong box"

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Al-Saqr posted:

Can you hear it? That thing over the horizon? It's true despair come to eat all your dreams.

(Unless Jeremy wins in that case that sun can gently caress off)

Bring on the eternal socialist darkness

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

I'll be drinking tap water tonight.

I hope you're not in a pub

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Wafflecop posted:

Does anyone care to guess what constituency I voted in today?

Islington

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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The exit poll in 2015 was spot-on despite disagreeing with every other poll. We'll know at 10:00.

Imagine: there are people out there who already know whether or not we have Grime Minister Jeremy "Eat the Rich" Corbyn

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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jabby posted:

Didn't the exit poll still predict a hung parliament?

No - at 22:00 the BBC announced conservative majority to the shock of everyone

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Raeg posted:

Not quite, it announce Conservatives as the largest party with 316 and then moved to majority after a few results.

Oh yeah my mistake. They did. I keep confusing the two.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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What is your RXT avatar about. I have tried googling to no avail.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Baron Corbyn posted:

it's about rovert, he posts insider news about wrestling on the wrestling forums here. He's basically the Pissflaps there in terms of reputation and his ability to cause arguments.

Does every thread have a pissflaps? Is he a loving franchise or something

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