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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Not again

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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Hope it was just some drunk wanker driving into a stoplight and no one was badly hurt

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
First reports are all over the place. So far, BBC reports a van hit about 5 pedestrians who are being treated for injuries (doesn't seem like any fatalities at least), and the driver got arrested.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

CoolCab posted:

is london bridge typically packed at this time

Not really. You'd find a lot more crowding in nearby Soho

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
That guy has some loving amazing eyesight

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Flayer posted:

I live in London and so do my family. My sister was locked down during the Westminster attack and earlier this evening my girlfriend and I passed through London Bridge. We often shop in Borough Market, we've eaten in Brindisa, we've been to Katzenjammer. There is a very real possibility that people I know and love could be the victims of Islamic terror. You're a disgusting individual telling us that we are we are more of a danger to ourselves than these monsters are.

I also live in London and could be the victim of a terrorist attack, but honestly, it's just statistics. This kind of emotional outburst is exactly what the terrorists want, and I'm not going to give it to them.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

BoneMonkey posted:

So a friend of mine has been talking to me about his political beliefs, and I have questioned him down from a Tory to a libdem.

But while he's starting to see all the problems with capitalism, he's asked the dreaded question, what does a socialist society look like?

The problem being is that I don't know.
Anyone got any good YouTube videos or links to what a good socialist or Communist society looks like?

I basically went something something worker coops something mondragon, I'll get back to you....

My answer would be "before we worry about full-blown socialism, we really gotta get to a social democracy first - something like Norway"

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

quote:

She (Theresa May) said internet companies must not allow extremism a place to exist, but that there was also a need to tackle “safe spaces in the real world”, which would require “difficult” conversations.

So uh, what exactly does this mean? Police raiding mosques?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

drat, I should stop drinking

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
If Paradox games have taught me anything, the player just got annoyed by these random events and is going to change government civics to Authoritarian / Xenophobe / Militarist. Pop happiness goes down 20% as the army blobbing starts.

Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Jun 4, 2017

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

I'm sure if guns were easy to procure in the UK, everyone would have had a gun and the van and the terrorists would have been shot dead before they did any damage and everyone would have clapped.

Instead of, you know, the terrorists having guns and the casualty list being 10 times worse

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Fight terrism with fish & chips and tea, throw scones and jam at the bastards, see how they like that

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

All you need to know about Nadine Dorries is that even the Mail shits on her for nepotism

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Apraxin posted:

I guess they're too afraid of backlash to start spouting off about it to UK news yet, but Farage and Katie Hopkins were both on Fox this morning arguing for Muslim internment and/or 'real action':
https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/871361880408956928

Hey guys I think I've seen this movie before, can't quite remember the name

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
"Heh, religion of peace, put all islams in concentration camps" *1.6 billion people concentrate into a singularity, swallowing the planet*

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

learnincurve posted:

I know I'm late to this discussion but I was waiting for the ghouls to sod off before reading the thread.

About this shoot to kill thing. If your attackers have knives then you don't need to shoot to kill unless they have the knife aimed directly at somone's throat, which is unlikely because people will be running around screaming. You aim at their legs if at all possible. You get shot in the leg you are hitting the deck and you can't stab people if you are on the ground. Mr plod is less likely to hit members of the public in the head, and they can get the bad guys into custody afterwards.

The :tinfoil: in this is that modern terrorists use texts and the internet so much that they no longer need to actually talk to them to get the information they need, and a nice clean execution avoids giving them the publicity of a trial or the possibility that they will continue to operate within prison.

"shoot-to-kill" is actually redundant - the first thing they teach you in gun safety is that you never ever ever point a gun at something that you don't want dead, and to always shoot center-mass. There are many reasons for this, but really, shooting someone's knee off only happens in the movies. Guns are for killing, there's no way around it. The only decision to be made in using a gun is whether to use it or not, once you decide to point it at a human, it's to kill that human.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

"If you want me to leave, you'll have to call the police"

"Right Bob, would you like to try and go do that, please?"

The Tories, ladies and gentlemen

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Angepain posted:

this is an incumbent candidate who has actually spent time in the house of commons, and yet apparently this treatment is too much for her

She's not gonna take it from the proles, the underclass should be grateful they're allowed to even exist

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

When you do die, you will be placed before God Almighty and judged for your action and inaction upon these events. Your soul will be found wanting and you will be cast into the firey pits of hell for all you have done and for which you deserve..

Actually we leftists are demons and you used mixed fibers so guess what chum, you're getting tortured in the afterlife by marxists

EDIT: Hail Satan

Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jun 4, 2017

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

thehappyprince posted:

has something changed since polly toynbee admitted she gets £100k a year

Huh, I would have expected a journalist with that experience and fame and political clout to make a lot more than that. I mean, the chief editors certainly make a whole load more, some are in the millions

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Ah, now he's the "arsenal-supporting terrist" in the media

I swear the media is so loving stupid. I'm half-expecting an article with the headline "His REAL act of terror was wearing the Arsenal shirt with those camo FATIGUES"

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Trickjaw posted:

I'm a little concerned the Met chief is Vulcan. Not as much as a Brazilian, but still. It is illogical.

Star Trek Vulcan, Flash Gordon Vulcan, or Roman mythology Vulcan?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Just read this somewhat doom-laden article about the next five years in general and was wondering what people here thought of it:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...e-a7773166.html


It seems to make a pretty good argument that Brexit is SUCH a poisoned chalice that whatever party has to implement it is doomed.

Relax, I seriously doubt it's going to be that bad. The economy might get hit, unemployment might rise a bit, but in the end this is still one of the strongest economies in the world, it's going to survive somehow.

Still, it's always good to save some money just in case, especially in times like these, so if you haven't, maybe start now.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

I really shouldn't have read the responses to that, I mean I knew what I was gonna find, but still, it's depressing to see so little humanity in people. "gently caress DUE PROCESS, THEY MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO GET ARRESTED, THROW THE KEY AWAY"

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

El ingenioso político don Corbyn de la Hoz y el Martillo

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Al-Saqr posted:

https://twitter.com/theresa_may/status/872181737933217794

Holy cow if half of Britain votes for this lady they really are vicious pricks.

I thought that had to be a prank image but no, it's real.

What the actual gently caress

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Hello friends, good morning. Wow! I am surprised by the results.

So, we're looking at Tory minority having to haggle with the other parties,Tory/DUP Coalition of Chaos (TM), or (most likely) elections in a couple months, right?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
"COALITION OF CHAOS" -> does coalition with literal Irish Taliban

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
So, any estimates on when the country's gonna get its poo poo together? Will we have fusion power by then?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Reminder that half a million racist fucks voted for UKIP even if they didn't gain any seats. They could have their own little racist corner of the country.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

CottonWolf posted:

They know that would be true electoral suicide.

They haven't really shown an aversion to that, though. In fact, they've been pretty enthusiastic about it.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Night10194 posted:

What's a 3 line whip?

Basically, "vote with the party line or *unclear serious consequences*"

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
What happens if we get a bunch of by-elections and they go Con -> Lab causing the Tories to lose their DUP-aided majority? Minority government and coalition disbanded because there's no reason to do it?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
EXCLUSIVE SCENES of the Conservative/DUP government

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pEF5cAkFXg

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Fans posted:



That's quite a front page.

That's quite the pre-emptive strike there.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Zeerust posted:

I have a friend who is a civil servant who gets really weird about this as well. He earns more than minimum wage, but under £10/hr, and feels like his work would be devalued if his pay doesn't increase proportionally to the new minimum wage. I can't really wrap my head around it, I'd be loving delighted to be earning that much.

I remember reading about this study once, where they basically asked people to choose between two options:
(With spending power remaining the same, etc - also I don't remember the phrasing exactly)

1) You make £100k, everyone else makes £200k
2) You make £50k, but everyone else makes £25k

Most people chose option 2

Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jun 11, 2017

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
From the study:

quote:

A: Your current yearly income is $50,000; others earn $25,000.
B: Your current yearly income is $100,000; others earn $200,000. (Prices are what they
are currently and prices (therefore the purchasing power of money) are the same in
states A and B.)

And from the conclusion:

quote:

In our survey, half of the respondents said they would prefer a world in which they have 50 percent less real
income, so long as they have high relative income.

So yeah it's all about being better off than others.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

How is "gently caress" so high up the list? I've said it in public way too often and haven't heard any angry tuts yet. Admittedly I grew up on American movies, but still.

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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

namesake posted:

Obviously you live past the watershed.

I had a hearty laugh when I first learned what "watershed" meant in broadcasting, it just made so little goddamn sense in my head to use nautical tide terms for the minor protection band.

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