UKMT General Elextravaganza 2017: Lord Buckethead would have won

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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed.
Labour	907	49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative)	48	2.64%
Liberal Democrats	31	1.71%
UKIP	13	0.72%
Plaid Cymru	25	1.38%
Green	22	1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party	12	0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party	1	0.06%
Scottish National Party	59	3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist	4	0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian	3	0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist	36	1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots	35	1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash	8	0.44%
Monster Raving Loony	49	2.70%
Space Navies Party	39	2.15%
Independent / Single Issue	2	0.11%
Can't Vote	188	10.35%
Won't Vote	8	0.44%
Spoiled Ballot	15	0.83%
Pissflaps	312	17.17%
Total:	1817 votes

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Flatscan posted:

She should send Boris instead.

She is still thinking really hard about Brexit and should not be disturbed.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 17:21

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 10:46

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Sapozhnik posted:

...What?

Alright, real talk is Theresa May actually still alive and in stable health? Because this is just bizarre.

What an absurd question, she is thinking about Brexit really hard and maybe so should you.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 22:01

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Gonzo McFee posted:

lol 11 lib dem seats

Lib Dem.... fightback???

# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 22:25

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OwlFancier posted:

On the other hand, how can you report this other than CRAZY CORBYN HATES NUKING PEOPLE which, well, we already know?

I don't even know how poorly that will go.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:04

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I'm going to guess people are way overestimate the nuke questions in this thread but we'll see. I am terrible at predicting politics.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:05

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Regarde Aduck posted:

How long have the public been so obsessed with nuclear weapons?

They haven't

# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:16

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Snipee posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/jun/02/general-election-2017-immigration-target-david-davis-question-time-politics-live

Anyone else read this? Thoughts?

This is what I was looking at when I thought people were overestimating the nuke impact. It's a wash overall like Pissflaps were saying but whether that's a good thing or a bad thing I suppose depends on where you feel Corbyn stands right now.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:50

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ALL POLLS SHOCK POLLS: TORIES WITH A 40 POINT LEAD DUE TO NUKES.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 13:22

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jabby posted:

Personally I think last nights debate will have slowed a lot of the momentum Labour had built up on Wednesday, and a shock poll putting them ahead being splashed everywhere would actually help to build it back up again. On the other hand it would help mobilise the Tory vote (although they almost all vote anyway) and potentially put off anyone who was voting Labour but didn't want Corbyn to be PM. Swings and roundabouts.

Leading polls is bad for Corbyn.

I mean you could also say a Labour lead might enthuse voters who thought it was a lost election, there's a lot of possibles but all you can really do is looking at the numbers at the time and see if they hold or not.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 13:36

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All I think of when I read the debate is the Jim Murphy-atar.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 13:42

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ThomasPaine posted:

poo poo if those numbers were accurate corbs would be pm

I think what we shouldn't lose sight of this week is that hope is a lie.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 13:53

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Baron Corbyn posted:

SNP on 47, making it a dead heat, so it would all rest on the shoulders of Tim loving Farron. I wonder what Corbyn's policy on turning frogs gay is.

I still think, weirdly, the SNP is being underestimated at 47.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 13:54

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Cerebral Bore posted:

lol, loving focus groups. You really are bad at this, aren't you?

Focus groups really helped Ed Miliband and Hillary Clinton so I can see his point.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 14:02

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jabby posted:

People really don't get focus groups. Probably because focus group results are often used in the media to misrepresent stuff.

Polls find out what people think.
Focus groups help tell you why people think that way.

Currently the polls have Corbyn's popularity within spitting distance of May. He's not wildly unpopular any more.

Focus groups tell you why, sure, they also in the vast majority of political cases end up in overcorrection to try and fix the perception given to them.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 14:08

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jabby posted:

Have you actually seen the recent polls? Being four points behind May in popularity is not 'dismal'. If I remember correctly he's doing better than Miliband or Brown did at this point.

Maybe I'm still in shock from Trump but at this point, I don't even know if favourability as thing matters that much any more.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 14:11

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Gyro Zeppeli posted:

See also: Literally every Scottish party except the SNP.

Literally all the literature I get from Labour and Tories here is "ONLY WE ARE IN POSITION TO KILL THE SNP FOREVER".

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 14:36

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Mr. Flunchy posted:

If there was a hypothetical Labour/SNP coalition, is it to be taken for granted that the SNP would demand a guaranteed Indyref 2?

The problem for Big Nicky Fish is a Labour government, particularly one under Corbyn, makes Independence a lot less likely and I think she's tactical enough to know that.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 14:46

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Angepain posted:

you see politics is not about who is best at representing the will of the people bit rather a contest for which party has the biggest electoral penis, and the loser can win and furthermore

a football team of twenty-two players probably would do pretty well in the Premier League though

In an AV voting system. the loser can win - The Deceased Rik Mayall.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 15:06

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http://alexanderlozada.com/iasip/?IkJhbmtzeSBBdHRlbXB0cyB0byBGdWNrIFVwIEFuIEVsZWN0aW9uIg==

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 17:42

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Pissflaps posted:

What a boring poll.

Really disappointing for poll fans UK wide.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 18:11

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jabby posted:

At least we'll all have the satisfaction of one pollster being utterly humiliated on June 9th.

EDIT: Kinda weird that ComRes also has quite different satisfaction ratings than Ipsos Mori. Are they just reaching very different sections of the population?

It's the modelling choices they've elected to go for.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 18:16

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Spangly A posted:

Mandelson still owes us him eating a hat, it was pretty jaw-dropping

Thought that was Paddy.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 18:23

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Good news poll fans

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871090909114490881

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 20:49

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Death is anywhere from almost to kinda certain.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 21:12

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Pissflaps posted:

Wow

https://twitter.com/_tom_burke_/status/871093434228125698

82%. That's high.

People are replying saying they can't see that figure.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 21:23

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ultrabindu posted:

This poll has 18-24 year olds on an 82% turnout. In 2015 in was 44%. It would seem young people really do hold the key to this election.

That turned out not to be true.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 00:00

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Cerv posted:

Or making the point that she has actually resigned as PM. Yes she's sill in post but only because she's serving a notice period until the new PM is appointed.

It'a a dumb twitter semantics thing, could also be a call to step down as party leader.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 13:08

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jBrereton posted:

Like the hung parliament narrative was a lie and we would get a tory government, and I was right!

The Ed Stone really did me in, it was like watching Thick of It in real life.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 13:09

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The DPRK posted:

https://fullfact.org/economy/why-are-more-people-using-food-banks/

It's really just an issue with cashflow.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 16:09

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Tigey posted:

I've stopped getting anti-Corbyn attack ads on Youtube: the only ones I'm getting now are all about Abbott:

"Imagine her as Home Secretary! She can't do maths, loves Al-Qaeda and hates white people, etc!"

Wonder if this is because the anti-Corbyn attacks weren't having the impact they wanted

I kept getting a "Ruth Davidson: Queen of Scots" ad on Facebook that I assumed was an attack ad until I noticed it was from the Conservatives. That's... a bold stance.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 16:19

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VileLL posted:

gosh

Clearly the lady to appoint the team that will see us through the Brexit negotiations. See how strong she is!

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 16:49

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blunt posted:

By splitting the SNP vote and letting Tories in.

(This is, ironically, bad for Jeremy Corbyn)

If anything, it's splitting the Tory vote, they're the tandem campaigning on being anti-Sturgeon here.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 20:10

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Gyro Zeppeli posted:

ScotLab are (understandably) banking on people not realizing ScotLab don't support Corbyn. Anecdotal evidence, but I've spoke to a few people who have swung from SNP to Labour because they like Corbyn, not realizing that Kezia's Krew would stick the knife in as soon as they possibly could.

Both Tory and Labour's entire campaign are the unionist vote, surely a split of the unionist vote ends up helping the SNP.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 20:14

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Extreme0 posted:

Not if the votes are coming from SNP to Labour. This is why as much I was like to vote Labour. I can't really take the risk of spliting the vote where the Tories can come in. Plus it dosen't help that the Scottish Labour candidate is nowhere near our consistency.

Tories went backwards in that poll too though.

I agree though, I'd like to vote Labour here but my candidate is garbage.

Edit: If you look at those numbers alone, Labour is gaining from Lib Dems, SNP and some Tories. To me this really hurts the Tory positioning of the new second party of Scotland but we'll see if it bears out I suppose.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 20:21