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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

When you do die, you will be placed before God Almighty and judged for your action and inaction upon these events. Your soul will be found wanting and you will be cast into the firey pits of hell for all you have done and for which you deserve..

Good day.

Hail Satan

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Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871090909114490881


:stare:

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

https://twitter.com/mattzarb/status/872083683494293504

So this just popped up on my Twitter feed....

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

TheRat posted:

It's not real, sadly

Awwwwwww...

:(

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

If May still wins even after this ridiculous shitshow of a campaign I'm honestly going to dedicate the next five years of my life entirely to getting the hell out of this country.

No shame in fleeing from a sinking ship.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Unsurprisingly kuenssberg is going all in on Abbott getting sacked which tbf is the right decision and should have been done months ago not the day before the election

Abbott got dropped from the Shadow Cabinet?

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

You guys really think a Tory/DUP coalition will collapse within a year? I like the idea of them falling apart completely but I'm having a hard time convincing myself it's not just wishful thinking.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Mulva posted:

Both parties are in a precarious position and want diametrically opposed things. It's that simple. They can not work together long term, because eventually both parties will have to serve their central interests or collapse. When that point comes, one side or the other is destroyed. The end.

What's so diametrically opposed about them? I'm in a DUP constituency. They're ultra-conservative theocratic fucks. Seems like exactly the people the Tories would love to jump on board with.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Junior G-man posted:

:psyduck:

Where do you find these people? and who the gently caress (re-)elects them?

We did.

Unfortunately.

I'm in his constituency.

:(

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

It's a way of saying that her "allies" are getting ready to stab her in the back.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Flip Yr Wig posted:

So are the DUP to the UDA as Sinn Fein are to the IRA? Or is the connection not as close?

No. You've pretty much got it.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

SpaceDrake posted:



Jezza has given them drat near the biggest vote gain in 70 years. He's out-performed Blair. People are falling in line, right now.

After starting twenty points behind in the polls. Corbyn is basically the Labour messiah at this point.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Murderion posted:

More than that, the Scottish cons all got their seats due largely to strong campaigning from Ruth "actually engaged to a catholic woman" Davidson. The Orange Order and looney prods in general are a wing that the Scottish party has been very much downplaying to bring up their moderate (and modern, because lol anti-Irish racism in 2017) image. A strong association with the DUP could see the Scottish Tory vote vanish.

Not just the Scottish Tory vote. Remember that this is the same Conservative party who sacked the MP for the Isle of Wight just before the election because of how homophobic he was.

..it's still loving weird to me that I live in a world where I can say that.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Apparently we're already getting protests at Downing Street against May cutting a deal with them.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Wait waaaat explain for an American please

Landmark peace treaty that marked the end of The Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Tsaedje posted:

Only needs 7 disaffected Tories to switch or 14 to abstain

ie: Ruth Davidson's entire contingent...

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Angepain posted:

Thanks for this. Maybe someone put this in the OP as it might come up a lot?

Also highly important follow up question, out of curiosity is there a name I can use for Derry and/or Londonderry that will not piss one side off if I use it or should I just resort to faking a coughing fit so nobody can tell which one I used. This is important.

Anyone who gets upset about you just calling it Derry is someone who doesn't deserve to have their opinions respected anyway.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Mugsbaloney posted:

Please forgive my ignorance but could the pattern of violence in NI be broadly summarised as "Nats target soldiers" followed by " Loyalists target civilians"?

It's best summarised as " Could have all been avoided by just being decent human beings but the British Empire decided they wanted to be in the running for History's Greatest Shitbags".

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011


Yes of course. Of all the people who are going to be absolutely delighted to work with Trump Emmanuel Macron is top of of the list.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

forkboy84 posted:

For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has?

Protestant Theocracy is an extremely right wing position.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

So what do you folks think actually will sink the agreement between the DUP and the Tories?

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Honestly what I'm picking up from this whole discussion is that the FTPA means we might actually be stuck with this crap for five years.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

ThomasPaine posted:

There's a non-zero chance that she fails to pass a queen's speech tbh. I can see some Tories walking over the DUP arrangement.

I have a very hard time believing enough Tories will defect to get a 2/3rds majority.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

ThomasPaine posted:

Queen's speech only needs 51% iirc. It's a formal recognition that a PM holds the confidence of the house (which is why a 51% majority is considered a 'win' in the election and why the DUP are needed in the first place).

So we need ten Tory defectors? You think it's likely that we'll get that many?

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

ThomasPaine posted:

There are more than ten Catholic/lgbt Tories

Yes but are the angry enough at the DUP to be willing to give up being in power? That's the question.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Just hurry up and collapse the government already. I need my fix.

TIA,

Fargle.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Darth Windu posted:

IDk what that means. I also have a southern Irish roommate who might think I'm cool for posting it? Idk

How about, even jokingly, you don't go around endorsing terrorists?

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Maybe he's trying to join May's coalition.

But he's not endorsing the UDA?

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

The longer this poo poo stretches on the weaker it makes May look and also makes the idea of the deal more and more unpopular.

Here's hoping they drag it out till next month. :D

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

OwlFancier posted:

loving hell that's reason enough to become an MP.

Depends on the quality of the hollandaise.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Whitey Snipes posted:


The Telegraph seems to have gone off the deep end in their coverage of Grenfell, convinced it's actually a vehicle for leftist sedition.

Hooray for leftist sedition!

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...y-a7802286.html

"Real misery for no good purpose"

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

forkboy84 posted:

Yup. According to this Guardian article which quotes Doreen Lawrence's book

Though I did get one thing wrong, Neville Lawrence was a builder, not a painter.

The problem is that Paul Dacre leads a massively sheltered life, gets a chauffeur driven car from his front door to the Mail office where he apparently puts in extremely long days, then heads straight home. The only plebs he has contact with are presumably the cleaners of his building and the sort of tradesman who might be doing up his home. He's completely tucked away from the real world, free to spout his xenophobic fear mongering, homophobic bile without the risk of many real people who could challenge his world view. I mean this is a oval office who fell out with Tony Blair because of Blair's progressive views on gay rights & Cherie's public breastfeeding. No one person has done so much harm to this country since Thatcher was punted out of office by her own party.

I dunno. David Cameron kicking off Brexit is a pretty drat strong contender.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Raeg posted:

Hot political take: I liked the new Crystal Maze

I agree with the caveat that Louie Spence needs to gently caress off forever.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Party Boat posted:

As I've said before, anyone who doesn't back it gets kicked out of the party. There might be some uncomfortable debate on some amendments but a rebel on a confidence bill is shooting themselves in the head.

They can't afford to be kicking anyone out at the moment though. That's what makes this whole thing so unstable. May can't pull a three line whip on literally anything.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Steve2911 posted:



Shock loving horror the DUP deal doesn't seem to be important.

It's almost like The Daily Mail are loving nazis who endorse and encourage right wing governments and are going out of their way to avoid literally any negative coverage of Theresa May.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Kokoro Wish posted:

Do try not to live under a constant blanket of fear, folks. It's almost as if the fact that it makes you real easy to influence and control is why establishments types, like alot of old fuckers in the intelligence agencies loved it and why they're actively engaging in promoting circumstances that will have that happen again.

Also we have far more pressing issues to worry about right now, like the fact that Theresa May just paid a large enough bribe to the loving DUP large enough that it could cover the entire NHS pay and staffing crisis.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

baka kaba posted:

Gotta say, while this deal is bad and all, I'm not feeling this whole "why are we giving Northern Ireland money for investment and to properly fund the NHS, we could give everyone several Freddos instead" us-vs-them vibe that's doing the rounds

Because it's NI getting a massive amount of special cash out of nowhere while everyone else gets hosed over.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

big scary monsters posted:

The upside is there'll probably be huge demand for skilled Britons to fill those jobs. The downside is you'd have to live in post Brexit Britain when you clearly have the skills to move elsewhere.

Still better than Trump's America.

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Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40423052

Labour is going to force a vote today on an end to the public sector pay cap.

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