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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
So maybe it's too early to ask this, but is there any general consensus on why Labour flipped the table and gained like 30 seats? From my understanding the general consensus was that May was probably going to wring a majority out of the elections, and I figured back to back deadly terrorist attacks would be a Tory wet dream given the universal conservative love of fearmongering voters. But somehow she apparently hosed it all up in glorious fashion.

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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

NewMars posted:

Youth vote, actually good and likeable policies and corbyn being The Boy.

Cool.

OwlFancier posted:

Why did trump win, other than racism?

Populism, general voter ignorance, and Putin.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Mister Adequate posted:

The terror attacks didn't do their expected right-wing-aiding shite because the loving police cuts became a MASSIVE issue as a result.

Labour has some other very popular proposals that got traction too.

Aside from that, May was intensely unlikable and remote (e.g. sending Amber Rudd, whose dad died two days earlier, to do the TV debate while May stayed in a dark room meditating on Brexit) whilst Corbyn was extremely good on the stump and evidently convinced a lot of people that he was sincere.

Thanks :)

Zoran posted:

So I would say Hillary face planted mainly because she refused to offer anyone a better life and in fact swore up and down that it could never happen.

Yeah I also forgot to mention that Trump won because the Dems put forward an eminently unlikable and distant candidate with tons of political baggage

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

jabby posted:

No real word yet on how the majority of pollsters got it so catastrophically wrong yet again. Obviously it was the youth vote wot done it, but I don't envy the people who now have to try and reweight their polls to make them accurate. I do wonder if we could start seeing Labour leads in the polls though.

Interestingly the line of most Tory MPs and right-wing Labour MPs is that the dementia tax was the defining issue because it turned off the old vote. The subtext being the praise shouldn't go to Corbyn. But that seems at odds with the polls which showed the old vote holding up very well, just being matched by massive youth turnout.

The youth vote is notoriously hard to poll. Both because a lot of it is made up of University students who don't necessarily live where they're being polled, and because they're fickle as gently caress when it comes to actually turning up to vote.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Zero Gravitas posted:

Watch.

https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/873188501990371330

Now bear in mind that the IRA (Sinn Fein side) set off 1.5 tonnes of semtex in the middle of a city just because the UK government were stalling negotiations.

IRA aint nothing to gently caress with.... and yet...

So basically May is willing to spark a potential bloodbath to hold on to even the most tenuous scraps of power.

Peak Tory.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

BobTheJanitor posted:

We're so desperate for any glimmer of hope that we're trying to live vicariously through yours.

Yeah just when you think you've finally been desensitized to Trump the former FBI director comes out and pretty much stops a hair short of saying he obstructed justice, and the best defense the Republicans can give is that Trump is an idiot and didn't know any better so it's all okay. Watching the UK not gently caress it up was a nice turn around.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

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It almost seems like the best option for May would be to accept the hung parliament and try again with another vote? Granted her last campaign was a loving disaster, but forming a coalition with the DUP sounds like a complete dead end. Or is there actually a legitimate threat that Labour could scrape together a minority coalition?

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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Would it even be possible to stop Brexit at this point if people wanted to? I thought the triggering of article 50 was a point of no return legally.

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