UKMT General Elextravaganza 2017: Lord Buckethead would have won

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Labour	907	49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative)	48	2.64%
Liberal Democrats	31	1.71%
UKIP	13	0.72%
Plaid Cymru	25	1.38%
Green	22	1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party	12	0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party	1	0.06%
Scottish National Party	59	3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist	4	0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian	3	0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist	36	1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots	35	1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash	8	0.44%
Monster Raving Loony	49	2.70%
Space Navies Party	39	2.15%
Independent / Single Issue	2	0.11%
Can't Vote	188	10.35%
Won't Vote	8	0.44%
Spoiled Ballot	15	0.83%
Pissflaps	312	17.17%
Total:	1817 votes

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Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

"Don't you think she looks tired?"

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:23

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 10:31

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

lmao that sounded dead like it was going to go into a resignation speech

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:25

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Codex Occultus posted:

No no you are supposed to say "Don't you think she looks tired". Those are the magic words.

Top of this very page m8

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:25

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Crosspeice posted:

It's a difference of night and day seeing Corbyn and May back to back.

You can see why she stayed out of any debates

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:26

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Rubbing meself raw here lads

Anyone fancy helping?

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:28

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Nick Robinson's voice is proper going

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:30

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

FUCKEN MURDERED, NUTTALL'S DONE

Skinty McEdger posted:

To be fair to him, throat cancer is a son of a bitch

Ah poo poo, didn't know he had that. Now I feel like a twat.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:33

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Gonzo McFee posted:

THE GIRL

https://twitter.com/bbcelection/status/873002321864732673

Christ alive, that's enough to beat everyone else combined, doubled. Whatever you say about her on the national stage she must be a hell of an MP for her constituents to get results like that.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:34

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

That used to be the common wisdom, but 2010 changed that as they entered a coalition with the Tories and were considered to have sold out almost every single principle they had.

Also holy poo poo that Canterbury result

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:39

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Gonzo McFee posted:

Read a story on Twitter about some activists that contacted her last minute for an event and she said she would come but only for a shot while as she had other appointments

Stayed the whole day and had to run for a taxi at the end.

The activists only found out through the papers that the appointment she had to keep was her own wedding.

For all the poo poo she gets she's a hell of a woman.

Bloody hell, yeah that's above and beyond

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:45

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Josh Lyman posted:

Jacob Rees is like every stereotype about snooty Brits

Rees-Mogg is the actual embodiment of Tory toffs. In all fairness to him, he at least believes in the noblesse oblige part of the equation as well, and there are worse out there.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:16

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Alex Salmond is out :eyepop:

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:20

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Do Sinn F�in generally get those border electorates? Has anyone suggested rather than full reunification, just a border adjustment?

Yes, and no, for various reasons but largely boiling down to the fact that shaving those off would leave the remainder of NI pretty hard locked to the UK, and would also strongly dilute the remaining Catholic and/or Nat power.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:27

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Benny Harvey posted:

What odds on sinn fein taking their seats to get corbyn into number 10?

Unfathomably small, unless the DUP get the reanimated corpse of Ian Paisley as Deputy PM.

But their party constitution forbids them taking seats in Westminster. I once asked what would get them to and the conclusion was essentially "nothing, except perhaps a genuine existential crisis that somehow could be averted with their seats taken." I guess post-nuclear-annihilation when they're needed to form a quorum at all, and Ireland's in an even worse state so reunification isn't possible?

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:32

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Anna Souby first Tory I've seen pointing a knife at May's back. :lol:

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:38

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

jabby posted:

Absolutely gently caress all. He's bulletproof.

There's nothing they've got which the Labour right hadn't already tried.

Wait, poo poo, that's what the Blairites were doing! They were trying him by fire to make sure he was ready for primetime!

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:40

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Cerv posted:

i think that was in the front. did not hold back at all.

Aye that's fair, she circled around the back later but that was right in the sternum.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:42

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Bloody hell Brighton Kemptown went massively!

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:44

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Has Hastings still not called?

Still nothing, presumably Amber Rudd is now calling for recount seventeen on the basis of a technicality last invoked in 1614.

Also Labour person is straight up saying "Yep I cop, got it wrong, Corbs did good." Hopefully this will finally put to bed attempts to unseat him and let us really get a unified party together for the next go round.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:49

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

HASTINGS GETTING CALLED

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:54

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Ah gently caress, Rudd held on by 300 votes.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:55

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

jBrereton posted:

after half a dozen recounts she gets a sympathy job

Wish I could get sympathy 'jobs

Going down from a majority of almost 5000 to about 300 is a hell of a shellacking though, and as the Beeb are saying, that narrow margin combined with her great closeness to May and high-profile role in the campaign makes it a hell of a lot harder for her to step into the PM ring.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 04:59

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

SpaceDrake posted:

That'd sure be a thing. How quickly would another election happen, anyway?

If genuinely nobody can actually form a government then, given the Sword of Brexitcles dangling above us, it's going to have to be more-or-less immediate, I'd guess.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:02

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Surely Corbz would rock another election with this wind behind him?

Yeah, now that he's a proven force, and Labour figures are increasingly sounding they're behind him as a result, he's likely to be storming it.

SpaceDrake posted:

The media, especially the Conservative-friendly parts owned by Murdoch, would be ever more vicious, though.

They've got nowt left though, they've already spunked everything they've got and if any of it stuck, it hasn't done nearly enough.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:05

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Peven Stan posted:

Iirc whipping is taken far more seriously in parliamentary systems. If a ton of people buck your majority then you're more or less forced into a vote of no confidence and new elections

It is, but a majority in the low single-digits gives everyone the ability to gently caress with things and makes everyone feel like they can take the big chair. Staving off that exact problem was the primary goal in May's mind.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:15

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Ein Sexmonster posted:

Seems like the opposite is happening. The PLP are all lining up now that their relevance is tied to Corbyn.

I'm sure someone's going to come out with it but yep, they're bending the knee because otherwise ~~Stannis~~ Corbs will destroy them.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:23

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Hahaha Dimbleby is calling out the Tory senior leadership cause they're all bottling it and refusing to come on the show.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:26

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

NewMars posted:

They thought they were dealing with crazy TV stannis, but it turns out it's amazing book stannis instead.

Scuse me but Telly Stannis was the best part of that show after King Raspberry Jam died.

Also yeah, all those questions about what the hell to do with Norn Iron is one of the huge worries about Brexit, because nowhere else in the UK stands to be as fundamentally and problematically disruptive.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:29

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Trin Tragula posted:

If there is a Conservative government after all this, this is not a win and you're going to look like a right nana if you start trying to say it is.

The actually sane position would be that Labour lost in a photo finish, did absolutely as well as possible given all their self-inflicted handicaps, and we're now in an ideal position to fight the next election, whenever it may be, as long as the PLP shuts the gently caress up and pulls on the same rope as everyone else, in the same way that Jeremy and the rest of the awkward squad pulled in 1997. What this does do is give a huge boost to the movement towards democratic policy-making and tweaking the leadership election rules to ensure we can get a continuity candidate on the ballot when we need them.

But considering where we were two months ago there's no reasonable way to characterise this except as 'a' win, though not the win.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:30

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Thank you Brendan!

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:36

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Ein Sexmonster posted:

Is there even a reasonable way to do a hard brexit that doesn't gently caress the NI/I border? Because that's going to make any kind of Unionist+Tory coalition impossible.

There's no apparently way to do a soft Brexit without loving the border with the Free State. If it's soft enough to not gently caress the border it implies we're still utterly beholden to every single EU regulation etc., so Brexit would just mean we don't get any more say in making those regulations.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:38

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Sydin posted:

So maybe it's too early to ask this, but is there any general consensus on why Labour flipped the table and gained like 30 seats? From my understanding the general consensus was that May was probably going to wring a majority out of the elections, and I figured back to back deadly terrorist attacks would be a Tory wet dream given the universal conservative love of fearmongering voters. But somehow she apparently hosed it all up in glorious fashion.

The terror attacks didn't do their expected right-wing-aiding shite because the loving police cuts became a MASSIVE issue as a result.

Labour has some other very popular proposals that got traction too.

Aside from that, May was intensely unlikable and remote (e.g. sending Amber Rudd, whose dad died two days earlier, to do the TV debate while May stayed in a dark room meditating on Brexit) whilst Corbyn was extremely good on the stump and evidently convinced a lot of people that he was sincere.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:46

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

OwlFancier posted:

The best thing is that if the new parliament makes the country unrunnable then who called the loving election

Tories not winning is bad for tories.

Right? The shitstorm that is only growing on the horizon thanks to this election is going to hang completely around the Tory's necks. And the inevitable next election is going to be likewise, and make us look like a bunch of assholes to Brussels.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:51

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Hung Parliament officially confirmed.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Hahaha, Ian Paisley's rigor mortis grasp will strangle Tories. Outstanding.

Big Ian's lookin' down from Ulster Heaven wi' a big oul' smile on that lovely angelic face of his :allears:

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:54

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:57

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Cerebral Bore posted:

Not only that, they're loving wiped out.

They got hosed in the council elections and it's complete now.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 05:59

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Mr. Flunchy posted:

I hope these sub 50 majorities get people out canvassing in the next election.

I imagine there's going to be some vitalized CLPs between now and the next election.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 06:01

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Antti posted:

Of course those voters just got assimilated by the Tories so we're not out of the woods yet.

But that's the thing, they didn't - it looks like only about half of the UKIP voters went Tory. That's looking like a huge part of why things have ended up the way they have, and not the thumping 100-MP majority Theresa May dreamed of.

Right I'm off to bed everyone, enjoy the day!

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 06:04

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Malcolm XML posted:

Do people realize that sf don't take their seats?

Yes that's his point; SF getting 7 seats changes the number needed for an effective majority in the Commons.

Trin Tragula posted:

Labour Leaders Who Jeremy Corbyn Is Officially Better Than

George Lansbury
Hugh Gaitskell
George Brown
Michael Foot
Neil Kinnock
Gordon Brown
Ed Miliband

And at least one third of Tony Blair!

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 06:05

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Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Is jezza a corbyn nickname or someone else

Aye, Jez/Jezza is a nickname we use for Jeremy here in bongland. I think the ozzies do too.

Caroline Lucas got a pretty nice big majority, good for her! :unsmith:

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 06:10

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