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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Dec 10, 2011

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Tokamak posted:

The contest notice is the artwork and he isn't actually going to send anything to anyone.

Also there's nowhere on the page telling you where to send it to. Still loving stupid, though.

Regarding the ballot numbers: these are printed on the reverse of the ballot, so you'd have to work at it to have them appear in the photo.

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Dec 10, 2011

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CoolCab posted:

Also, if I recall correctly YouGov provided the single poll that predicted a Yes win in the Scottish referendum,

No, you don't recall correctly. The only polling company to ever predict a Yes win was Panelbase, in a poll paid for by the SNP. ICM and YouGov did put out two later polls that showed more Yes voters than No voters, but they used the undecideds as a third category while Panelbase excluded them completely to give a 51-49 result. ICM also showed Yes further ahead, 7% against YouGov's 2%.

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Dec 10, 2011

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I already had zero confidence in the Highlander remake, don't make it worse.

Also it's illegal to carry a bladed weapon of that size in public, so hopefully someone has notified the Peelers.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

If the pigs shoot him in public does that mean they get the £50k?

I don't think they are allowed to accept a reward for doing their job.

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Dec 10, 2011

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I apologise for nothing. :effort:

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Dec 10, 2011

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baka kaba posted:

Get on Duolingo, it's v good. Plus they have a flirting section where all the comments are 'what the hell' so at least you can make her laugh


Someone tweet them and tell them to put some +s on those crime numbers because at a glance they look like reductions

In fact tell them to make it 'change for X crimes' so it's not so wordy and you can actually fit the stats on screen on mobile

A full set of the statistics.

Harassment up 185% on average, as much as 700% in some areas, and already more cases in Q1-3 2016/17 than in 2015/16. Rape and sexual offences have more than doubled. Strong and loving stable.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Coohoolin posted:

Just in case people forgot, Aberdeen Labour "made it happen" if "it" was going into coalition with the Tories and independents to lock out the majority SNP councillors, getting themselves kicked out of the party in the process, leaving Aberdeen City Council being run by a coalition of 9 Tories and 13 independents.

Necessary fact correction:

1) The SNP are not a majority on Aberdeen City Council, they are the largest plurality with 19 of the 45 councillors.

2) You got the number of Labour and Tory councillors backwards. It's 11 Tory, 9 Labour.

3) The Labour/Tory/LD coalition is not new, it is a continuation of the previous administration.

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Dec 10, 2011

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TACD posted:

This can be solved with a Back to the Future marathon :cool:

Doc Brown invented a time machine and didn't go back to kill Hitler? Clearly he's fash.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Uncle Kitchener posted:

How long will the polling stations stay open?

Polling closes at 10pm, but that's closing the doors. Anyone queuing to vote at that time gets to vote.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Tesseraction posted:

Might be worth contacting the electoral commission to see if this is an example of misconduct in deliberately misleading people into not being able to vote.

Absolutely awesome should, but unless he/she said "Hi, I want to vote Labour, how do I register?" it would be hard to make a case.

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Dec 10, 2011

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WMain00 posted:

Voting SNP in Edinburgh South. Hoping to knock Ian Murray out of his seat since he has effectively done gently caress all for the last 2 years, but I doubt that'll happen as I think his seat is fairly safe.

gently caress off, Nazi.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Killed By Death posted:

Apt metaphor

1188: The Cutting of the Elm occurs in Normady

1488: The Cutting of the NHS occurs in Maidenhead.

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Dec 10, 2011

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learnincurve posted:

I just ranted about how evil may is and explained what swing seats are to the youth who delivers my pizza after he told me "it won't make a difference". He's not going to vote but he is now going to "keep an eye out on the result"

Get this, he was under the impression because he "read it somewhere" that Corbyn was bad because he wanted to abolish tuition fees and it wouldn't be fair on all the people paying back student loans.

:argh:

And now you know why he's delivering pizza.

Hearing reports that postal votes have gone missing in Labour constituencies. Anyone got any more on that story?

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Dec 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

They'd be wiped out if they sided with Tories. They'd also suffer if they went into a formal coalition with Labour. Most likely is a confidence and supply on the condition of passing IndyRef 2 for Scotland.

Which Labour literally cannot do. It'd give the only people keeping them in government a chance to abandon them, and then ruin them in England because they threw away the Union. Regarde Aduck is not exaggerating when he says the SNP have hosed the left completely in Britain.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Tallying done in Banff and Buchan. Straight fight between Tory and SNP, TCTC.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Extreme0 posted:

Tory wins because voters voted for Labour which split the vote.

Calling it.

Calling it wrong. Labour are maybe 5% of the vote, LDs set to lose deposit.

Aberdeen South 68.25% turnout, crikey.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Extreme0 posted:

So Tories win. Calling it.

Probably. The SNP love to talk about how every SLA voted to Remain, but that's hiding an inconvenient truth that not every constituency did. Banff and Buchan is one of the ones that voted Leave, mainly because of the fishermen in Banff and Fraserburgh. In this election it's not between parties, it's a straight Brexit battle with Leavers voting Tory and Remainers voting SNP. And as Leave won the first time, I would expect it to win again.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Aberdeen South about to declare.

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Dec 10, 2011

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c0burn posted:

Labour gains Bury North

My home town. Now if Aberdeen South can go Labour as well, I'll be a happy kitten.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Aberdeen North declaring. SNP hold.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Needless to say, I'm happy about Salmond being sent back to his mill. Just not to Tories. Banff and Buchan is going Tory as well, absolute majority.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Anime_Otaku posted:

It's going to be a battle, if Scottish Labour broke away and set themselves as a pro independence party that might win some of us over, but as it is I'm SNP until independence is achieved, and I'm far from alone in that. This result is really a product of realpolitik, the Tories are not really so popular in my view, but I'm in West Dunbartonshire, which returned Martin Docherty to WM again after being strongly Labour (the MSP is Labour's Jackie Bailie still) prior to the referendum. Quite honestly as long as Labour keeps voting with the Tories in Westminster, they don't have much chance.

You're an idiot. Reposting my assessment from the ScotPol thread, because you should at least know why:

Someone in the UKMT accused Scottish Labour of treating Scotland like its fiefdom, an appendage to be ignored in policy because it could be counted on for votes anyway. This is essentially true, and it worked for a long time because the SNP were splitting the Scottish Tory vote. But when Sturgeon got her "glorious 56" result on the back of promising to work for Scotland after the Indyref and hoovered up the Labour voters, she made the mistake of doing the same thing. She thought that the overwhelming support her party had in Westminster and Holyrood was her strong mandate to campaign for a second Indyref, even though a failure would bury the issue and the party forever. The Tories in the party didn't want that - they want to rule a kingdom, not a fiefdom - and so they reverted to type. Scottish Labour were still stabbing Corbyn, so the Labour voters didn't want to return home in the same way.

So: if you want someone to blame for last night's result, Kezia Dugdale is a good start. But if you want to discuss why the Tories gained seats, it was not the result of Scottish Labour taking votes from the SNP; it was the SNP taking votes from Labour. If Dugdale wasn't poo poo and had managed to recover half the SNP votes in the constituencies taken by the Conservatives, the Tories would not now be able to form a government even with DUP support. But if Sturgeon wasn't poo poo and hadn't unified the right, they wouldn't be able to form a government at all.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Firos posted:

Personally I would sack anyone whose surname is also a proper forename.

So you'd sack Jeremy Corbyn?

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Dec 10, 2011

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Firos posted:

This is correct.

No, it isn't.

Also can people please stop banging on about how hosed May is because she went to the Queen without a formal deal with the DUP? She isn't. She leads the largest party; Labour couldn't get more seats even in coalition with the SNP and Lib Dems. It is therefore her right to form a minority government, and make the deal with the DUP to ensure passage of bills. That's how confidence and supply works.

Remember also that the DUP have to actively oppose May to shut down Tory activity. If they only abstain then the Tories have 318 seats and only need 317 for a majority of the 633 participating.

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Dec 10, 2011

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oath2order posted:

It's kind of crazy to me that the House of Lords is an unelected check on conservatism. I would think it would end up being mostly composed of rich autocrats that mostly just want more money.

The Lords, being appointed rather than elected, are not beholden to special interest groups funding their election campaigns. And as they sit for life (or until they retire from all work) they're not angling for a nice job or six once they stand down.

Re: Lord Buckethead - in case anyone doesn't know, he took the character and party name from a 1980s Star Wars parody called Gremloids. I saw it years ago, it is very cheap and very silly so I recommend it.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Lord of the Llamas posted:

Do we need a 2/3 majority in parliament to call another election because of fixed term act?

No, because the FTPA is secondary to a motion of no confidence and that only requires a simple majority.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Looking at the seat changes makes a man smile. The casualties would include IDS, Theresa Villiers, Justine Greening, Amber Rudd, Anna Soubry, Stephen Crabb and Zac Goldsmith.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Angepain posted:

May's resignation, Rudd's resignation, or the Queen's?

Nobody's, he's a moron troll. Breaking news on the BBC is that the DUPs have agreed confidence and supply terms, at least in principle.

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Dec 10, 2011

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That's bad reporting. 298 is a functioning Tory majority unless the Political IRA take up their seats.

E: Where did 14 bastards and a new page come from?

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Dec 10, 2011

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Zephro posted:

Also aren't smart meters super hackable? I'm not sure making critical infrastructure even more vulnerable sounds particularly strong or stable.

Power companies are known to ignore smart meter reads if it suits them.

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Dec 10, 2011

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learnincurve posted:

Seriously, unless you live in a high rise then get a rope ladder for £10, if you want to splash out then portable fire escape ladders for up to three story buildings are a thing for £50 if that. You want to be jumping out of the window going "but the landlord was supposed to do it!!" for the sake of £50?

Well now we know what started the Grenfell Tower fire, it was your hot takes. Next time you feel the urge to blame the victims of a disaster, do you think you could perhaps wait until they've been counted?

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Dec 10, 2011

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sassassin posted:

That rent is obscene.

I know we say to kill the rich but this seems a tad harsh.

Didn't the blueprints posted earlier show they were 4-bedroom flats? Still obscene, but £455pw for a 4-bed in central London isn't executive level.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Macarius Wrench posted:

gently caress me, I pay 500 a month for a one bedroom flat with a shared garden and parking, and that's only because I'm paying double what I need to because gently caress long term debt.

How the hell do people in London manage to eat?

Employed people can claim housing benefits. The biggest scam of the housing bubble is that the Tories have purposefully set it up with the dual intent of demonising the poor while simultaneously feeding taxpayers money into the pockets of landlords. (NB: the majority of Tory MPs are landlords.)

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Dec 10, 2011

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Gum posted:

Probably their best option at this point

Swapping from homophobia to racism probably won't help the Lib Dems.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Jose posted:

i think the fire would have had a substantial impact on how people voted had it occurred before the election

This. A tower block full of working class people just burned down with unknown loss of life because a bunch of Tory voting rich cunts didn't want their view spoiled. Said rich cunts got the Tory landlords to petition the Tory council to approve dangerous plans that were implemented by a cowboy company who even if they didn't slip a brown envelope under the table, cared more about their shareholders than the dead. The Tory landlords then for years repeatedly ignored warnings from their tenants that said plans put them massively at risk of exactly the disaster that happened.

Kensington and Chelsea is never going Tory again.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Macarius Wrench posted:

Scary how quick you get a response on this thread in the middle of the day, awful lot of UKMT posters sitting on their good doctors sick notes.

Nah, I'm reading at my desk in the office while my PC runs a big report. gently caress off, shitbucket.

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Dec 10, 2011

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For those who want exact figures: this is a total 92% popularity swing to Corbyn in less than eight weeks.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

Depends on the scale. My shed is made of wood soaked in creosote and sealed with pitch. But I can leave that almost instantly and there's not 600 people living in my shed.

If you live in London I think you're missing out on an opportunity there.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Oh dear me posted:

Sure it wasn't a rook? Crows aren't gregarious.

I wish it was a rook, we could use more socialism in parliament.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Tesseraction posted:

Liz Kendall did say she liked NWA right? Clearly May is triangulating.

What wing of authoritarian are the Ns?

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