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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

Sure you can. 20%-30% of carbon emissions come from livestock. Only like 10% come from planes. If that. Planes are pretty green compared to cars.
Planes are bad for nearby transport. It's just a wasteful way to travel if you're not going hundreds of miles. Britain just isn't a big enough island for it to be a necessity. Especially not if we renationalise the railways and actually make train travel affordable again. It's a loving outrage that it's almost half the cost to fly to London & back from Inverness get a return to London on the train.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Julio Cruz posted:

High-speed rail is the other way to cut right down on intra-UK flights but of course we can't do that because ~the fields~

Selfishly I'd settle for some of the sweet electrification of the Highland tracks. I get excited by the mere prospect of knocking 15 minutes off the journey from Inverness to Glasgow.

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

The airlines would all convene together to do massive price hikes and blame the party who removed the subsidies and they would lose the next election based off that attack.

Think you're over-estimating how important flying is in peoples lives. Reminder that Britain is actually not a big island.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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peanut- posted:

Hastings is genuinely the most grim and deprived town centre I've ever visited in Britain.

I'm sure there's rich bits around there though.

Has anyone ever been to both Hastings & Cumbernauld town centres? What wins as far as the best representation of 21st century Britain (horribly depressing)?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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themrguy posted:

Do people care who the economist endorses?
:catdrugs:RADICAL CENTER:catdrugs:

Seemed pretty reasonable logic to me though, what's this thread think? I don't know that party very well.

God, The Economist is utterly worthless.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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You're a pretty worthless moron, aren't you?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Macarius Wrench posted:

Someone who wants to physically mutilate themselves to reconfigure their physical body sounds like they have a mental health problem. At least that's how I personally see it. Its an extreme version of someone getting a nosejob and I'm against that so...

Yes, and that makes you a oval office who has said absolutely nothing worth listening to.

You should get some sort of plastic surgery to fix your broken brain. Ideally by having molten plastic injected directed into your brain with the aim of making it work better than it currently does. Because it would at least stop you being a oval office.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Macarius Wrench posted:

Fine just loving drop it, it was a off hand comment that a bunch of loving white knights have rushed to defend. Jesus loving Christ.

Eh, no one asked you to post here. If you aren't willing to defend or reconsider deeply reactionary views, this thread probably isn't for you. As Ober says, we're the loony left SJW echo chamber, where things like racism & transphobia get you telt. So either gently caress off out of UKMT or stop being a oval office. It's not a particularly difficult thing to do, if you want to be a oval office in an echo chamber of cunts who don't get challenged on their cuntbaggery, I hear Reddit is welcoming.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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https://twitter.com/JmeBBK/status/870267107921076224

Top stuff.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

Apparently I like grime??

Grime is legitimately cool. There's a great independent, DIY attitude through a lot of the scene, by necessity because until recently it was pretty overlooked despite the occasional breakthrough of a Dizzee Rascal or a Lethal Bizzle. And incidentally, grime era Dizzee Rascal remains loving rad. And then guys like JME & Skepta are willing to be activists as well as musicians.

It's genuinely exciting new British music. What other British scene is nearly as vibrant as grime in TYOOL 2017?

Remember that time an idiot Labour Culture Minister dismissed the entire scene as racist? Ahh, Blairism.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Not Operator posted:

Theresa May is currently sitting under a waterfall, focusing all her ki towards brexit, and you're all going to look like assholes when she reappears.

Theresa May as Baruto?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Private Speech posted:

What happened to Bozza the train man who used to post here? I've seen a bunch of more longtime posters here recently which made me wonder.

His level crossing post was pretty great.

He posted in the train thread quite recently. Well, within this year.

I remember he was going to move to Glasgow for work. Assume he got very busy in that new job.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Well that's nice.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/870576698630299649

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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TinTower, have a word with your political party, this poo poo is embarrassing

Chemicals in the water supply are feminising us, says candidate for dead political party.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Hold me UKMT, I've decided to watch This Week because Akala was on it and he's always worth listening to & currently Ed Balls is saying the BBC isn't part of the elite media establishment? And Andrew Neill is salty at Akala suggesting that there is a media bias when Corbyn is continually roasted over his "links" to the IRA in the 1980s while Theresa May isn't getting nearly the same treatment over the revelations about the Manchester bomber being sent to Libya by the Tory government, which Theresa May was a senior member of.

I know I shouldn't expect anything different from this show, but it's still annoying, even if Akala is good.

jBrereton posted:

No, she's just not turning up in this campaign. It is fascinating. If she's still in charge when the Scots have Indyref2, the union will break up, because she is an absent fuckwit.

The papers are trying their best to have her back but what even is there to support lol

It raises a good philosophical question: can you have the back of someone who has misplaced their spine?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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https://twitter.com/DanParks147/status/870633217677766656

Let us all pray YouGov are right (Labour have never won Sheffield Hallam, dating back to the 1920s. In fact the 35% they got in 2015 was the 2nd best result they've had their)

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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As I said on the last page, Labour's best result there was 39% back in the days when the Liberals didn't even run a candidate. 2015's 35% was their 2nd best result. It's be genuinely fantastic for Labour to win Hallam for the first time ever & throw that snake on the dole at the same time.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Gum posted:

Have Kerrang! ever endorsed before?

Certainly not back when I was reading it, albeit that was 15 years ago.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Ewan posted:

You've for a long time held the view that Corbyn is harming the Labour party by staying in power because he is widely seen as unelectable. Letting him fight a General Election and suffer a loss would finally demonstrate this and then he should resign, and a new leader could recover Labour back to being electable. Fair enough: whether or not people agree with this stance, you've been pretty clear and consistent in this view.

Genuine question for you: If Labour gains seats, but the result is still a Conservative majority (or a hung Parliament that results in a Tory minority/coalition) - do you still think that Corbyn should resign? Or would a simple gain in seats cause you to re-assess your view of him and consider that he should stay as Labour's leader and gear up to fight the next election?

He's answered this before. He thinks that any result where the Conservatives are still in government means Corbyn should resign. even if Labour get a bigger share of the vote than they got in 2005.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

So do NOFX.

That time Propagandhi wrote a song mocking Fat Mike's weak piss liberalism was fun. And also took shots at Lars Frederiksen being really silly.

Incidentally, Propagandhi are a much better band than NOFX too.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Miftan posted:

What song is that, by the way?
Propagandhi are great, and so are nofx. It's important to remember that fat Mike was an absolute shithead until around.. 2008? Stickin' in my eye is the first song I ever liked. :allears:

Yeah, as mentioned previously it was Rock For Sustainable Capitalism. I do like a bit of NOFX. The Decline is amazing in that it's an 18 minute song by a pop punk band that never once wears out its welcome, which shouldn't be possible. But I do think their attempts at politics are really dumb (Fat Mike supports the Dems because he is a liberal rather than "they are the least worst option") & really love Propagandhi (the run of albums from Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes to their last album is pretty crazy in the consistency. And I do have some fondness for the first two records and songs like The Only Good Fascist Is A Very Dead Fascist are great fun, but they are a bit rough in spots). Super excited for the new album due to drop this summer.

Although I'm not the best one for punk, mostly I don't have any clue on contemporary stuff and just stick to listening to the classics like Crass, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Reagan Youth, all that jazz. Though the last Nails album was cool as hell if you want to count powerviolence as punk.


Christ, that's a thing.

I wonder what an interview between Campbell & Owen Jones now would be like.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Not Operator posted:

Stiff Little Fingers and Bad Religion are both still very good.

I agree.

Also, The Guardian is endorsing Labour. Huh. First time since 2001 they've solely endorsed Labour

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Baron Corbyn posted:

I read that Alastair Campbell tweet as him promoting his son's piece not necessarily endorsing Corbyn himself.

Eh, the Like father like son line makes it sound like he'll still vote Labour

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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And while we're talking about funny media takes on this election, Alex Massie's tweet made me smirk, though obviously I won't read the article.

https://twitter.com/alexmassie/status/870636634651406337

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Its funny because 4chan says the same about this place

I mean you got to be a worthless nerd to pay :10bux: to post on a gay dead forum.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

I oppose the regressive left's interpretation of social justice

Define regressive left, because right now it seems like a made up buzzword to sum up a couple of 17 year olds on Tumblr who don't actually exist in the real world. That seems like a bad reason to attach yourself to a movement of racists & xenophobes & misogynists.

Regarde Aduck posted:

People are so self hating about SA but it's still one of the few tolerable forums on the internet.

Now whether that is because of the administration or despite it is a good question. I get the impression certain people would prefer SA to be a lot more right wing and like 4chan than it is. See GBS.

It's only ironic self-hatred. I used to think the idea of paying for a forum was dumb & then all forums died & also I realised the pay barrier keeps a lot of dipshits out which makes SA really quite OK aside from a few certain areas.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Regarde Aduck posted:

That doesn't seem so much crazy as strangely single issue.

There used to be a pub owner round here who'd stand & his platform amounted to "I hate the smoking ban".

It should be added that his pub has yet to go out of business.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Those who seek to limit and curtail the freedoms of a individual in order to meet their collectivist/marxist aims. Those will use underhanded means to try and destroy ideological opponents while claiming its in the name of equality and tolerance.

Anyone who picks the freedom to say friend of the family over the freedom from starvation & homelessness is an arsehole imo.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'd say anyone standing on a national single issue is completely wasting their time and money just because of the way Parliament is structured - even if he were somehow to be elected he's basically going to get to file a couple of early-day motions which have the same legislative power as a Facebook post. While I guess it's not strictly crazy, it's certainly wildly unrealistic even in the best-case scenario.

Can't remember if someone posted this in here recently or not, but it's funny.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

The problem with this that it starts by limiting a persons speech because its offensive till you get to the point where even thinking certain things makes you guilty of a thought crime?

You should be free to say as you please but not free from the consequences your words cause

How about if the consequence is if someone sticks your pretend slippery slope up your urinary tract?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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learnincurve posted:

May talking nonsense here.

At least she's talking to the press I guess. The very slim hope of the Tories not having a majority rest on her continuing to be a terrible campaigner, which she can't do if she goes radio silent.

Prince John posted:

There's a kernel of truth to this story I think, albeit I don't know whether the effects were ever observed in humans or just fish. Apologies for the Mail source but they are quoting the Environment Agency's scientists:


I remember reading something about this at uni, but don't know whether any link between fertility and the chemical has been proven since the article.

scientists do not yet know whether this is affecting people seems like the key words here. Not letting the LibDems off that easy.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Did she actually have the gall to claim she didn't call this election for selfish reasons?

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Jun 13, 2012

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JOHNSON COCKSLAP posted:

I got my NHS counselling in within 2 weeks :smith:

I waited over 6 weeks & then gave up waiting. It really does depend where you live. Rural mental health care is utterly gash.

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Jun 13, 2012

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Pissflaps posted:

Anyone notice she said 'I had the balls to call the election'? It was shouted over by someone in the audience but I bet that line was supposed to be a big moment.

I saw someone mention it on Twitter, but I couldn't quite believe it was real. That has to be the biggest whopper told all campaign, the snap election was called because she thought she'd increase her majority significantly. Which is fine, that's how UK politics work. But lying about it is weird.

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Jun 13, 2012

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Al-Saqr posted:

are all small business owners in Britain assholes?

My dad started his own business where he cuts peoples grass about 7 or 8 years ago. He has a couple of part-time employees who do 2 days a week, about 7 hours a day, & they earn about as much in a month as I did working full-time in a minimum wage job so I don't think he's an rear end in a top hat. He only started on his own because he was working for another small business owner who was clearly underpaying him & his colleagues.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Al-Saqr posted:

I'm making a joke I've just noticed the number of people who claim to be small business owners who keep harassing Corbyn and Labour on question answer sessions so I'm just making a pithy statement.

Nah, most of them legit seem really bad. Very booj

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Regarde Aduck posted:

Is hope officially over?

What a relief. It was getting dangerous for a moment there, I almost convinced myself.

Thanks to the British public for convincing me that I was right all along to think the worst of them.

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Jun 13, 2012

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Vitamin P posted:

He wouldn't just say "I would do everything necessary to protect our people" and instead twisted in the wind about 'no first strikes' and didn't shut the gently caress up. He looked really dishonest and completely supported the whole 'nutty dangerous corbyn' attack. Hope is legit dead now it was loving terrible.

He looked dishonest by not giving into the audience's bloodlust for hypothetical revenge?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Oberleutnant posted:

It was one bad interview session at 9pm on a friday night when everybody's out on the lash. Theresa May has had this every single time she's been in front of a camera. I wouldn't stress over it too much tbh. The nukechat was depressing as gently caress, however.

Yeah, but he already needed a flawless performance & May loving up to have even a slim chance of winning. Momentum is a funny thing & one iffy performance could be enough to make people who were wavering stop wavering & go back to voting for the Nuclear Armageddon Party, coz it's a strong & stable pair of hands hovering over the red button.

It's shite, but he's coming from so far behind, & FPTP is such a trashfire system, that you were looking at a miracle to get a Labour majority, but even a Labour minority is a seriously slim chance. And this little is enough to make sure we're not getting that unfortunately.

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Corbyn is too honest for his own good sometimes. Just say you'd retaliate with a heavy heart, not like anyone would be alive to call you out on it if you don't.

They'd just call him a liar because we all know his stance on using nukes. It's a no-win question.

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Jun 13, 2012

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Vitamin P posted:

If they press him he loving lies and says he'd press it.

How many vulnerable people are going to die from 5 more years of austerity because that prick was too proud to tell a fib.

It's a completely loving unbelievable lie and would get torn apart in much the same way

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Jun 13, 2012

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Owlkill posted:

Went to the Hammersmith/Fulham deaf and disabled hustings tonight.

UKIP guy used the term 'mongoloid' in his opening remarks, got the constituency name wrong and said that people who can't spell end up resorting to a life of crime.

Tory guy was smarmy and awful, didn't know about his own party's planned cuts to disability benefit, kept talking about the number of disabled people in work being increased and left early (as did his UKIP chum).

Jesus. Where do they find these cunts from?

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