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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:you mean this oval office? The only enjoyable thing to come from today was the fact that this horrible shut in idiot literally eats books.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Whys he look like hes about to erupt into a blubbering pouty stream of tears He's a shut-in who thinks fireworks are terrorist attacks. He eats books. He looks like he's about to burst into tears because he exists in a carefully created bubble of terror. Why you'd do that to yourself I don't know, but it seems to have been lucrative. Josef bugman posted:Quick things guys a person I know from Uni who is very much a centreist posted this on FB: Tell him that centrists deserve to go to the guillotine.
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TheRat posted:On second thought, nukes might be useful: Conservatives going full Maoism is exactly in my wheelhouse. What a stupid world.
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Jun 3, 2017 00:40
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Guy Goodbody posted:So if May gets re-elected, shouldn't they all do that? I mean, every time a Republican in America gets elected, people say they're gonna move to Canada but they never do. But that seems like a really viable option for British people, especially ones who have specialized skills like being a doctor Well for one, it's actually a question mark what will happen to EU citizens living in the UK & UK citizens living in EU when the Brexit negotiations are complete. You could uproot all your poo poo only to find out 2 years later that Theresa May & David Davies & Liam Fox cocked up the negotiations so bad that the EU countries will make life hard for British immigrants to stay. Also, some people really aren't comfortable with moving to a foreign land where they can't speak the language, and as a nation we're pretty poo poo at speaking foreign languages. And then there's the whole "living near your support system" thing. It's not really that practical for people to uproot if they have a kid in school etc. And plenty of us simply can't afford the costs that moving to another country entail.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:12
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Baron Corbyn posted:The absolute dream scenario, of course, being a Lab/SNP coalition/working agreement with Labour doing to the SNP what the Tories did to the Lib Dems. Unlikely scenario that, because it doesn't address the abysmal uselessness of Scottish Labour. Which is a disaster so big that even Jeremy Corbyn can't fix it. Hell, ronya's Lord & Saviour Tony Blair couldn't invigorate that complacent mess. Angepain posted:Also I'll have you know the political hard-hitters that are the Scottish Christian Party has the very positive message of Proclaiming Christ's Lordship Their candidate in Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey thinks that The Lord also wants us to proclaim "SNP BAD" along with Christ's Lordship, & think he's the man to do that. He's such a prick (& not for his anti-SNP stance, for his general fundie bigotry)
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Jun 3, 2017 15:33
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ronya posted:be fair - he put them in that mess to begin with. Without New Labour there wouldn't even be a Scottish Parliament for the SNP to grab a foothold to begin with. And I'd regard Holyrood as one of Tony's few positive lasting legacies!
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Jun 3, 2017 15:54
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Do you live in Bristol North West, Bristol West, North Somerset, Thornbury, or Kingswood and Filton constituencies? Would you like a nice complimentary gift to celebrate the election that you absolutely cannot sell on? Then Banksy is your man, just take a photo of your ballot showing you didn't vote Tory.
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Jun 3, 2017 16:59
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Pissflaps posted:Taking photos in a polling station is illegal, isn't it? Not as far as I'm aware. It's illegal to reveal anything anyone else has done, so they don't like you to take photos. But it's not illegal. Or it wasn't a year ago according to a quick Google search. IANAL I'm also pretty sure it's not actually serious & he's just kidding. Though obviously if you did live in one of those constituencies you should cover up any identifying number on the ballot before taking the photo.
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Jun 3, 2017 17:08
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Pochoclo posted:That's a joke in very bad taste. Also it'll be bad for Corbyn. A joke encouraging people to vote against the Tories is in the best of taste tbh. (Though obviously if it was some rich oval office offering bribes to vote Tory I'd find it a lot less funny & a lot more bad)
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Jun 3, 2017 17:13
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OwlFancier posted:I was really confused because I was sure that Paul Mason was a chode. Nah, he did some good coverage of the Greek crisis & has been a constant critic of austerity. Though he was too soft on Varoufakis, that's certainly not him being a free market knobber.
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Jun 3, 2017 19:57
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Liu posted:do yourselves a favour and never read the comments on bbc news articles And then also do that on every other website.
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Jun 3, 2017 19:59
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jBrereton posted:But Is YouGov's Poll Accurate? Impossible to know until Friday morning but my gut says no.
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Jun 3, 2017 20:33
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:The reality is extreme leftist revolutionary policies involving taking on the established vested elite has never ever loving worked and always made things worse for everyone involved; from China to the USSR to Brazil to Bolivia, Venezuela, Cuba and beyond. The few that have succeeded (although you could debate what you call "success") like Ecuador and Greece were very careful to avoid pissing off all the most powerful people. In most cases like Greece, they actually didn't do anything at all. I burnt my eyeballs reading this take, it's that scorching. "Taking on established vested elites has never worked" OK buddy.
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Jun 3, 2017 20:35
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:It depends on what you define as "worked." Nah, it should be the goal of a politician to protect workers from predatory employers, protect the ill from predatory "health" companies, protect commuters from predatory transport companies, & generally to protect humanity from the ravages of the free market by ensuring it is overthrown. See, I can transpose my politics on politicians too. Saying what the ideal politician should do is worthless because ideal politicians don't work. If they did, we'd not need governments. ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I am quite well educated on the issue I grew up in South America in a country in the middle of a civil war between right wing deathsquads and communist guerrilas and one of the most complex political scenes on earth. Nihilism is a worthless contribution to politics. Seriously, if all you have to contribute is everything is loving poo poo so suck it up then gently caress off. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Jun 3, 2017 20:42
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:That's not my argument. My argument is that extreme forms of leftism cause tension, possibly war, and make things worse for everyone. You only have to look at Venezuela, which was historically one of the richest countries on earth and now people are dying in the streets. That something doesn't exist doesn't mean it cannot exist. You're the twat in the 1400s whining that poo poo is terrible but that's the lot of a peasant and look at those horrible peasant revolts to see how they ended, better to just suck up the drudgery and the poverty and the short lifespan. Besides, you seem to have missed the point of the extreme left, the aim isn't to improve the livelihood of everyone, the aim is to improve the livelihood of the overwhelming majority. Of course, none of this has anything to do with Britain in TYOOL 2017 so gently caress knows what you're going on about this for.
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Jun 3, 2017 20:51
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jBrereton posted:what do we reckon, then, 370 tory seats? 650 Labour seats. They are even going to win every Northern Irish seat. Piece of piss.
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Jun 3, 2017 20:57
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Spangly A posted:I really wish student unions had a coordinated response to high voter registration (and credibility in general) because shock wins in Sheff Hallam, Cornwall and the home county uni towns aren't going to add up to a majority Sadly students are more interested in pointlessly squabbling over wank.
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Jun 3, 2017 21:26
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Poor Tom Burke https://twitter.com/_tom_burke_/status/871100607964250113
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Jun 3, 2017 21:27
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Tories are going to win, Labour will get more votes than in 2015 and still come away with less MPs and this won't be taken as a lesson that this dumb country desperately needs electoral reform.
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Jun 3, 2017 21:44
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Jose posted:labour mp's desperately clinging to the landslide they'll win after 10+ years of tory rule when PR would basically stop it happening Which has been the story of the Labour Party & PR for just shy of 90 years. loving shortsighted twats.
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Jun 3, 2017 21:54
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Another good Labour policy. Shame we won't see them enacted eh? But I guess we're about to go into another period of not campaigning with what news is coming in from London. gently caress. (And for clarity's sake, that gently caress is aimed at the horror of the attack & their increasing frequency rather anything politically partisan)
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Jun 3, 2017 22:42
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crispix posted:I've stopped paying attention to this kind of thing in the news. I just look at the obligatory newspaper cartoons a day or two later admiring our national spirit in the face of adversity A pretty smart choice. I stuck on the BBC News Channel & it's just..."We know something big & important has happened but we have no details so here's some tweets". Rolling news is bad but it's also the sort of thing you can't imagine ever being turned back.
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Jun 3, 2017 22:49
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blunt posted:Given that we don't have a government at the moment (all MPs have resigned etc), is there any mechanism to delay an election? What if an attack was the day before? No, we still have a government until the Queen says otherwise as far as I understand. Though I'll grant you that I bet there's a dozen posters with a better grasp of constitutional law than me.
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Jun 3, 2017 22:55
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Pochoclo posted:First reports are all over the place. So far, BBC reports a van hit about 5 pedestrians who are being treated for injuries (doesn't seem like any fatalities at least), and the driver got arrested. Nah, the person the BBC had at the scene said specifically that someone was arrested but she had no idea who they were or why they were being lifted. There was nothing about the driver being lifted, the chat was about the van having driven off, not having stopped. But this was one eyewitness.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:05
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Prince John posted:Caution: this may raise blood pressure. A textbook illustration of earlier comments in this thread on the Economist: Mate, if you think that's loving stupid, have this belter from The Independent. John Rentoul at his finest, whining about the evils of universal benefits and how putting up corporation tax just means increased costs for customers & claiming if you want to protect the incomes of the poor you should vote Lib Dem. "All good socialists should vote Lib Dem on Thursday." The last line of that article. I'm sorry if anyone thinks this is poor taste, but there's just nothing to say about whatever horrible poo poo has gone down in London, & I needed a laugh.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:21
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Trickjaw posted:Oh ffs. Not again. I hope Corbs pushes ahead with may being unable to protect the country, after cutting the filth, reducing the military to sub Dads Army levels, and decimating the NHS. Wrong and stable, indeed. The fash sure love going to Liverpool only to turn up in pitiful numbers & get absolutely humiliated. Don't know what it is that attracts them there so often when it's clear the city doesn't want anything to do with them.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:41
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Hoops posted:There's not going to be much more coming out about this incident until the early hours of the morning, so I suppose we may as well discuss the normal stuff. Broadly I agree but I suppose if you were looking for rays of hope maybe some people feel embarrassed about voting for a former member of the IRA as PM. Obviously I'm being silly & hyperbolic, but that would probably be the issue if anything was going to make "shy Corbynites" a thing. But I don't think it is a thing. endlessmonotony posted:Probably. A proper social safety net makes radicalizing people much harder. On top of that, you'd imagine May will be a lot happier to continue a foreign policy in the Middle East which has done a lot to destabilise the issue, which has also contributed to the radicalisation of some people. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Jun 3, 2017 23:46
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chernobyl kinsman posted:just some drunk wanker probably Is that your excuse for acting the oval office? Innerguard posted:Police now saying more than one fatality. Where are you seeing this?
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Jun 3, 2017 23:56
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Sinteres posted:Get ready for the far right to convince people the media are afraid to show who the real enemy is if there's a concerted effort there. It's true that the media provide the oxygen that terrorism needs to breathe, but it's also true that people want to know this information, and trying to impose a media blackout will look to many like burying everyone's heads in the sand. Nah, nonsense. There's a difference between a media blackout & the media simply being much more careful about unintentionally glorifying these cunts. Who gives a poo poo if that makes some fash mad? Not as if they aren't just permanently looking for things to get mad at. chernobyl kinsman posted:its important, in this time of crisis and ideologically-driven murder, to remember who the real bad guys are: the other political party Christ you're dull.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:20
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Lord_Adonis posted:With all this talk of 'de-escalation' vis Corbyn, does anyone think that there is any value in allowing ISIS to create their Caliphate from the Sunni and Non-Kurd parts of Iraq and Syria, with the Shia and Kurdish parts of Iraq, Jordan, Turkey, and Assad Syria acting as a containment barrier to further expansion (With the support of NATO, Russia and China if called upon by those countries)? I would suggest that, having observed other nations considered 'ideologically extreme' moderate their relationship with the rest of the world over time, throughout history, might and ISIS caliphate not do the same? For example, after the revolution, the USSR was considered to be an international pariah. However, as little as ten years later, Stalin was able to somewhat normalise relations with the rest of the Capitalist world, with Khruschev and Brezhnev following through a generation after the Revolution. The same can be said for Iran since 1979 and China since the 1970s. I believe that the same dynamic would have occurred had the Taliban been left alone to consolidate their rule in Afghanistan. Perhaps de-escalation means a 'cordon-sanitaire' for a generation or two, giving the rulers of an ISIS Caliphate the time to determine that a hyper-exclusionist society will not work in the long term- bringing them to the table by showing them a better way that is able to compromise civil liberties and gender equality with the practise of Islam. If Christian-Democratic parties were able to reconcile civil society and religion in Europe, then why not Islamic-Democratic parties in the Islamic world? Are you on the windup?
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Jun 4, 2017 00:27
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:He literally shouted "Death to Antifa" as he entered the courtroom, now gently caress off, fascist. FALSE FLAG, CLEARLY A FALSE FLAG! Alex Jones taught me to yell that.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:27
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JOHNSON COCKSLAP posted:If you can't understand why people are more scared of the deliberate, indiscriminate acts of others rather than accidents you are either 12 or autistic. I can understand it but that doesn't make it rational. And considering the reaction to that fear is usually grossly disproportionate & often discriminatory I certainly don't think we should indulge it. But sure, use autism like it's a slur you bellend.
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Jun 4, 2017 12:46
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Jun 4, 2017 19:40
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TheKingofSprings posted:I'm pretty sure nukes do not do very much to deter terrorists Don't be daft. The bold leader would have nuked central London last night just to ensure the terrorists died. That the PM didn't just proves Corbyn is a coward & a traitor & a terrorist sympathiser.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:47
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dispatch_async posted:PLP in being huge shits shocker. Ah, a good reminder that a Corbyn PMship will probably be a disaster because his own MPs are loving idiots fueled on spite & neoliberalism.
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Jun 4, 2017 20:10
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Al-Saqr posted:like what sort of inhuman sack of poo poo would vote for people like that, what the gently caress. And she has almost zero chance of losing because UKIP aren't running against her & she got over 50% last time round. What a country.
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Jun 4, 2017 20:55
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Hoops posted:He's a troll, he's having a joke, you're reacting to it, what the gently caress is wrong with all of you are you autistic Stop using autistic as an insult you bellend. Anyway https://twitter.com/katstew2/status/871460330723049472 Somehow a polis dancing in a circle with a small kid has brought a tear to my eye. Christ I've gotten sentimental as I approach middle age.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:25
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Hoops posted:I was actually serious, A lot of thread regulars here do not have strong control over their emotions and are unable to understand when someone is not making a literal argument. Says the man who makes half his posts about getting mad at people responding to trolls. Alright then pal.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:29
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https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/871645282878070784 Oh UKIP. Why do you even bother? (Paul Nuttall said something about there being only one law, BRITISH LAW (presumably in the context of evil Sharia) and obviously that's total pish.)
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The DPRK posted:To those of you in support of Corbyn this election, how do you remember feeling this far out from the 2015 election? I don't remember exactly. I wanted the Tories to lose, I thought they probably had to because they just seemed unpopular. I took it for granted that even though his campaign was bad & the immigration cups were the exact opposite of what I wanted from Labour they'd at least pick up more MPs & close the gap to the Tories, even if they might not be the biggest party. I know I was more excited about the SNP wave at the time, by the idea of places across the central belt finally unseating lovely Labour MPs for life like Douglas Alexander, Jim Murphy, Tom Harris & Tom Clarke, as well as seeing the inevitable collapse of the Lib Dems. The polls one month out from 2015 had Labour a lot closer to the Tories, the lowest prediction had them getting 266 MPs even with the SNP being predicted to pick up 49 seats. But the Lib Dem was worse than the pollsters expected, which provided a brief (OK, a 2 year long & continuing) moment of schadenfreude but ultimately saw a lot of votes move to the Tories. Where as this time Labour were predicted a month out to do as bad as 150 MPs. Because Corbyn started from so far back in the polls, everyone knew that simply not losing any seats would be an overly optimistic target. But unlike in 2015, Miliband ran a bad campaign against a very smooth campaigner, Corbyn has run a competent campaign against an absolute disaster of a campaign, so there's momentum on his side. But even the most optimistic poll only has Labour winning 268 MPs. And yes, I'd regard picking up seats a small victory considering where Labour were at when the election started, it's certainly not anything to be carried away with. At this point the most hopeful scenario I can see coming true is the Conservatives as the biggest party but with 300 or so MPs, not enough to form a government. They stumble on for a few months before we end up with another election within the next months, with the Parliamentary Labour Party staying somewhat unified in public in the the mean time to transport Labour to a win & a majority. But then a month ago I thought Labour not losing any MPs was the most optimistic scenario, so maybe May's response to the London attacks, & her record as Home Secretary, is enough to prove me a pessimist.
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