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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Paperhouse posted:

Yeah but... do they want the Tories to win

I mean I guess everyone know they will so

The SNP benefit from the Tories so yes.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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End all animal testing and replace with clones of Brexit voters.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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loving lol at trying to be the voice of moral standing at the end there. If these people want to be tory shits they should embrace it.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

You know I wouldn't be surprised if that was due to medication. Not taking SSRIs for a few days makes your body do poo poo like that when you get excited and want to coordinate your body at the same time.

Those little brain zaps are amaaazzzzinggggg.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Gonzo McFee posted:

We're going to force these old cunts to have a better life whether they like it or no.

So much for the tolerant left.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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If even 10% of this stuff is true, what were our intelligence services doing? Can anyone just engineer votes now as long as you have the cash? With all the wiretapping and other dodgy poo poo GCHQ does why did it take this long for someone to go "Hmmm Farage eh, really wants us out of the EU and Russia loves him. Do you think, bare with me, there is a conflict on interest here?".

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Quotey posted:

What do you think all the IRA stuff was leading up to? Queenie will be about to enshrine Theresa May as PM, Gerry Adams and 4 SF MPs run in, recite the oath and slap the Queen and May, hoist Corbyn up on their shoulders and begin 100 years of true Irish rule. Jez has been playing the long game.

Don't give the press any ideas.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Baron Corbyn posted:

Are the Russians MOMENTUM hacking the election???

I wish we did live in this world the right thinks we live in where the left is this united well oiled machine that is executing conspiracies everywhere and secretly running things.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuQloiHMVIc

Shaun and Jen need to bring some better arguments than taking his words and twisting them (good luck if they try and take on Thunderfoot or Styxhexenhammer)

He's wrong on Brexit but hes right on the cancer of Regressive Social Justice

MMMMmmmm mmmm. MMMmm!

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

What did you mean by this?

Was eating crumpets when I got to your post. Sorry.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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I'm sorry but it's not mansplaning to educate females in the precise function of the AMBAC system that helps balance mobile suits in the Gundam Universal Century setting. They just don't know about MS mechanics and if i'm being honest they act pretty flippantly about the whole thing.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Sargons can't look up.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Ugh, by viral do they just mean all the alt-righters who weren't voting Corbyn anyway or is this likely to have a negative effect?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

The IRA Corbyn video has been shitposted over and over on 4chan

Specifically, this bullshit edited one?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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forkboy84 posted:

I mean you got to be a worthless nerd to pay :10bux: to post on a gay dead forum.

People are so self hating about SA but it's still one of the few tolerable forums on the internet.

Now whether that is because of the administration or despite it is a good question. I get the impression certain people would prefer SA to be a lot more right wing and like 4chan than it is. See GBS.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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I wonder which bits he thinks he got wrong? The designer drugs are coming, mechanical limbs are close future, direct brain connections, and implants close future, weird visual hacking unlikely because why? But not impossible with all the VR poo poo going on but again hackers seem comfortable enough looking at boring code and that's not likely to change. AI's close future. True AI? Wildcard, who knows? The only thing dumb about his cyberpunk poo poo is the wacky clothes and made up cyber punk words.

Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jun 2, 2017

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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That doesn't seem so much crazy as strangely single issue.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Those who seek to limit and curtail the freedoms of a individual in order to meet their collectivist/marxist aims. Those will use underhanded means to try and destroy ideological opponents while claiming its in the name of equality and tolerance.

But we're all for the limiting and curtailing of freedoms to meet collectivist/marxist aims. I'm not asking people to agree with the majority of this thread, but at least know what we are. The M in UKMT secretly means marxist. Sometimes monstermunch.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Al-Saqr posted:

are all small business owners in Britain assholes?

It's like the American thing of everyone that isn't homeless calling themselves middle class only we're polite enough to make up something inbetween working and middle.

Working class but don't like other working class because they're all dossers? Small business owner.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Is this going as bad as it sounds or are you all just really angry at the lovely audience?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Is hope officially over?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Really going for his weak spots eh?

To be fair he should be prepared for this.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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"The people" are trash.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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So was it just a poo poo audience that kept hammering on about the same things or was Corbyn answering badly? Or both?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Vitamin P posted:

If they press him he loving lies and says he'd press it.

How many vulnerable people are going to die from 5 more years of austerity because that prick was too proud to tell a fib.

Can we wait to see if this has actually "thrown" anything?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Pissflaps posted:

You're right.

Your desire for deceitful people who can't be trusted is noted.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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How long have the public been so obsessed with nuclear weapons?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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jabby posted:

Both. He got asked about nukes twice from an audience member, then Dimbleby pressed him on it about three times, then a totally different audience member asked the same question again. It dominated quite a lot of the debate.

He didn't have a good answer though, and that's pretty poor considering how likely it was to come up. He should have just said that discussing the circumstances in which the deterrent would be used weakens the deterrent, and just kept repeating that.

I really don't understand why he didn't have a prepared answer for this. And anything involving the IRA. Like I get why Theresa May can't answer anything, she's an idiot. She apparently understands nothing that isn't a soundbite. But Corbyn has shown he can be amazingly astute. Why wasn't he prepared?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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It's like both sides are missing the point of the nukes. It isn' about using them or not. Their job is to stop us getting nuked with their very existence. What happens after is irrelevant.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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My guess is that this won't change much. Anyone that keen to start firing nukes was never going to vote for Corbyn. These were not swing voters and their message won't appeal to swing voters. More important was how Corbyn looked when answering. How obvious was it that he was bumbling?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Vitamin P posted:

Mutually assured destruction is a thing people understand and people don't like to be told, by a man wanting to be their leader, that 'we loving die and the fucks that killed get off scott free lol' is in any way a plan.

The thing people aren't realising is how much of a get-out against voting for him Corbyn just served up. All those people possibly considering Labour because their kids are eloquently arguing for him? loving lost, because 'got to keep my family safe, they'll understand one day' just overwrote housing, living standards, secure employment and every other, actually relevant, issue that their children will have to face.

100% truth here, late afternoon today I went out with my dad and my dog to a corner where local Labour people met us and we went canvassing for a few hours and I feel like a mug for doing it if Corbs is going to throw the loving election like that. How dare he take the position of the one person who can stop May and pull that shite.

You are being hysterical. It's times like this I like to play Zelda: Tales of Wind of Walkerwindy Wakes on my ninty: SWITCH Freedom to have fun. Wherever. Whenever.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Snipee posted:

What other forums?

Gbs hates the whole of D&D and the weird SASS offspring sites no doubt have a good alt-reich chuckle at our silly childish socialism. Not sure why we should care. They talk about us because they're assholes much like what was in that audience.

Pissflaps posted:

It's ok to think Corbyn should put principles before giving a satisfactory answer about the use of nuclear weapons, but understand that this is part of the reason why he won't become prime minister.

You can't have it both ways.

If you're right we've already lost. We can't have good leaders because being good prevents you from being the PM.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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I guess it makes sense that most British people are constantly imagining the country being destroyed. It's a shame they won't make the connection between their nihilism and the Tories making their life poo poo.

namesake posted:

Agreeing with Pissflaps which is always a bit weird.

Same logic with Tim Farron and homosexuality really; they believe something really at odds with public opinion and they get major flak for it. Difference of their objections is Jeremy isn't going to kill millions and Tim is denying humans the freedom to be happy.

I think he's right to. But he's right about a thing that just makes everything ultimately pointless. Politics is just going to be liars lying forever.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Corbyn didn't do badly. He just didn't do as well as he has been. Apparently, this is the end of him. Did people really think he'd get to election day unscathed? Still don't think most people give a gently caress about nukes the same way that audience did. If he wins or not it won't be down to that shitshow.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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I think it was almost certainly a planted audience. On the other hand Corbyn should have expected it.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Fans posted:

I think the IRA and Nuke stuff isn't a big deal because nobody thinks we're ever going to actually use a Nuke or be invaded and the IRA has been defunct so long there's people voting this time who don't even know who they are.

Immigration, Wages and Healthcare is something people give a poo poo about in an election and matters. If we go into the final stretch hammering them on the Income Tax rise, while they're talking about Trident and the IRA that's fine by me. People give a poo poo about only one of those things.

Well they totally are things give a poo poo about but it's the 65+ range which are already locked in Tory voters. People that are angry that the troubles didn't end with us conquering Ireland. So you're essentially right.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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That's kinda Scotlands own fault for gleefully embracing one party politics.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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These "patriots" only seem to care about economics. And generally with no level of expertise. Where is the patriotic support for human rights, low levels of homelessness, low prison numbers, equality rights etc. Where is the progressive patriotism?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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ronya posted:

note that this may subject you to a fine, a prison term, and in addition, your vote may be invalidated if the EC can connect your tweeted photo and your ballot (if, e.g., you photographed the ballot number)

The vote invalidation part of this law opens it up to abuse. What a dumb addition. Just fine the people that hosed up. Votes are sacred and it should take a lot more to invalidate them.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Taking a picture of your ballot or obtaining some other proof of the way you voted is normally associated with people selling their votes or being otherwise coerced into voting, so yes it should absolutely invalidate your vote.

Hmm, I wonder if there's any way we can convince Tories to post pics of their ballots on social media to "prevent the loony lefties stealing the election"?

I stand corrected. Guess I just have to hope no one still listens to Banksy

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