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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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forkboy84 posted:Glad that Creasy's amendment will be discussed. Not actually sure it will pass despite being completely fair but it's definitely worth trying because it's just right to do. I'm sure more Labour MPs will vote with the government or abstain than Tory MPs will vote with the opposition. I think this will be a vote without debate per the standing orders
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coffeetable posted:if Creasy's amendment passes, would the DUP vote against the Queen's Speech? No Ian Paisley said yesterday this is a matter for the English NHS and has nothing to do with devolved issues and pretty much shrugged their shoulders
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And remember this is a policy that has been in place for years, predating the Tory government It's a good time to challenge it cause the usual mumbling about the need to defer to the will of the assembly on this matter = deference to the DUP in the current climate
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Isn't 'deferring to the assembly' likely going to be 'the Tories' anyway given direct rule is likely? Well it will be 'the will of northern Irish parties' cause there is cross community opposition to abortion reform here (the DUP are joined by the nationalist SDLP, labours sister party in the province, in whipping against abortion reform). Any domestic abortion reform is a harder fight, while I was typing this the court ruling came in with appeals court reiterating it is stormonts domain to reform the law so in the event of direct rule the Tories will resort to "consultation" with the parties as only the Greens approve of extending existing English legislation here and every party would resist attempts to unilaterally impose reform from Whitehall (there was a legal argument this could be necessity under the UKs human rights obligations but the court ruling seems to have ruled that out). But this amendment has nothing to do with the assembly, a separate court case confirmed that the English NHS can provision these services if they want but the government said they did not out of "respect" to the fact the NI NHS made no such provisions. The court only narrowly voted to allow that policy to stand from a legal standpoint
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https://twitter.com/gordonrayner/status/880366369665159170 May be some folding to hold off back bench jitters
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waffle posted:holy poo poo jam man really is prime minister Corbyn didn't sign the amendment nor did I hear him say anything about it 
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Sarah Bellum posted:This is also just another instance of the Tories finding the magical money tree mysteriously appearing when they're facing a challenge. They aren't giving anyone any rights. They aren't changing any laws. They're not giving NI women the same entitlements as other women who pay into the NHS. They're throwing money at a Stella Creasy-shaped problem to make it go away, and it's working. This is entirely my opinion as well. They've come up with the most Tory solution possible and rather than support universal access regardless of specific residence and completely throw out the principle underpinning the policy they've chucked some money into a relief pot to mitigate temporary political damage Its a half measure but depressingly will be enough to steady tory backbenchers who's main concern is APPEARING to give a gently caress
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The DPRK posted:I've also had close second-hand experience around medically necessary abortion, but don't live in Northern Ireland so can't speak for what your friend experienced. It's not right what happened to them. Something is better than nothing but this leaves a dual system of access intact which should not be accepted. This reform was only prised out of the government cause of a one off convergence of electoral calculus suddenly making people notice NIs abortion laws and the horrible situation imposed on women that has been the norm for longer than the Tories have been power. I will not take it for granted that people will continue to remember about this issue or continue to think its important to fight for beyond an attempt to get one over on the Tories for hitching their wagon to the DUP
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Jun 29, 2017 16:49
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Interesting to see Lady Hermon voting down the opposition amendment alongside the government - would have thought she would have abstained May indicate she might vote more decisively to keep corbyn out than simply avoiding voting to put him in
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Jun 29, 2017 18:02
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Night10194 posted:Wait, you guys just fire legislators who don't hold to the party whip? What happens to their seat? They're just sacked from the front bench, the opposition upper circle of proposed alternative ministers
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Jun 29, 2017 18:22
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Huh hermon voted with the government for the main question too
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OwlFancier posted:Because half the point of the european single market is making a euros only club and lol non-whitey get hosed. The UK was already pretty good at that before joining the EEC
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