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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Tigey posted:Getting bombarded with huge numbers of Tory political ads on Youtube: almost getting no other type of ads Had a stab at improving one of them. https://twitter.com/tvlistening/status/869281109984645121
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Jun 2, 2017 00:19
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Angepain posted:is she trying to play the circle game on us I seriously doubt Theresa in her current state can deliver a dead arm without somehow coming off worse. MrL_JaKiri posted:I swear by a bit of lucozade sport or similar, or fruit juice Irn bru's pretty great for the night before and the morning after imo. Has to be ice cold, though.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:29
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The Mail wants a green and pleasant land populated with white heterosexuals, they probably have some weird anti-modernist green right stance on environmental issues when it comes right down to it.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:39
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big scary monsters posted:Was that Nope, never noticed that until now but what good luck
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Jun 2, 2017 00:59
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/870250544299954180 edit: Oh wait this is from earlier than the one above. Oh well
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Jun 2, 2017 02:51
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Jun 2, 2017 14:04
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namesake posted:Join the Corboys instead, they ride the M4 all jammy and chrome. Jammy Jezza, the Grime Minister
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Jun 2, 2017 17:48
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Just because I have the freedom to do such an action doesn't mean I should morally make that choice nor would I want to. What moral justification does that supposed freedom have for existing though, if it can only be used by immoral people for immoral purposes?
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Jun 2, 2017 20:21
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lot of catastrophising itt anybody swung by corbyn's policy on nuclear genocide was already swung long ago all the smears on defence, terror and nukes have already been battered into the ground a year or so back meanwhile, may's wounds are still freshly opened and the press smells that blood, whatever they publish on corbyn will just be warmed-over reiterations of old attacks
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Jun 2, 2017 23:12
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Corbyn not answering is actually better than if he says "no I won't kill us all," because it's ambiguous enough that hypothetically no-one would chance it anyway. Unfortunately the optics of nuclear deterrance and the optics of appeasing jingoistic fuckwits with no real understanding of how second strikes work don't overlap very much.
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Jun 2, 2017 23:31
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Henry Black posted:Bit surprised by the negativity in this thread. Explain to me, like an idiot, why it's so bad? He didn't even lose a lot of the audience over his answers. Unless everybody was watching a different show to me, one of the loudest rounds of applause that evening was the girl saying she was shocked at the murderous intent of the room. Far louder than all the Probably because everyone in the thread's allowed themselves a small glimmer of hope and it's on such a complete knife edge they're terrified of any wobbles from our man Jezza. I kind of wish he'd been on first, just so that folk would be busier mulling over Theresa May's aftertaste rather than Jezza's small gaffe about not wanting to kill us all.
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Jun 2, 2017 23:41
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Pochoclo posted:My opinions on pizza are famous, I'll have you know Me wrt your pizza opinions. 
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Jun 2, 2017 23:43
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 I'm seeing a pattern here with our nuclear banter lads. An uncharitable part of me thinks there might be some link between nuke fetishism and the post-menopausal eunuchdom of being an old oval office that's well past it.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:10
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Namtab posted:Is this like the absolute reverse of the BBC debates where it's the left's turn to scream about an unbalanced audience? To be fair I think it's clear those men were manifestly unbalanced. Except for Wilford Brimley there who was mostly on the level.
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Jun 3, 2017 02:27
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It's funny how all the rubbernecking ghouls exclusively show up when something like this happens and are never around the rest of the time, then they get their knickers all in a twist when folk immediately recognise them for the wound-poking shitehawks they are. If the only debate or discussion you want to be involved in is one about the relative merits of deporting all muslims or collectively punishing an ethno-religious group for the actions of a tiny fraction of their members, then it's safe to say that you're a oval office and we want nothing to do with you.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:38
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Jun 4, 2017 01:48
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Fog Tripper posted:Would it be worthy of your debate if it was directed at Christians? Don't really give much of a gently caress about your gardening or beekeeping when your rap sheet's got such gems as this, to be quite honest.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:55
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The actual terror attacks themselves don't bug me half as much as the fact they end up working because we seem determined to let them. Half the country loses its poo poo, the press gorges itself for days on the carrion, fash crawl out of their lairs and the government does poo poo like put troops out on the streets. If the aim of these attacks is to demoralise, disrupt and spread hysteria then they're a resounding success.
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Jun 4, 2017 06:12
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Hoops posted:I was actually serious, A lot of thread regulars here do not have strong control over their emotions and are unable to understand when someone is not making a literal argument. Strong control over our emotions or not, this post (and your condescending metacommentary in general) is worthy of all the poo poo it gets.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:31
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Regarde Aduck posted:Yeah the acab thing of hating all police all the time is dogmatic. They're an unfortunate requirement of society. They're only necessary or required in a society where private property exists and since their inception they have been the leading edge of capital and the state's war against the people. They're still human beings though, despite all being bastards.
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Jun 4, 2017 22:27
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The purpose of the BBC is BBC4, everything else is trash.
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Jun 4, 2017 22:48
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Fairly sure that crimes against the person still make up the lion's share of police work and that abolishing private property isn't going to stop most of them. Violent crime is strongly correlated with poverty and the secondary consequences of poverty. When people's material needs are adequately met they tend not to be violent towards each other. So yes, abolishing private property would have a knock-on effect on the causal factors of a great deal of violent crime. Obviously this a bit of a generalisation and some people are going to be dicks no matter how well they're doing, but I still reject the commonsensical idea that the police and prisons and the criminal justice system are a necessary basis upon which any society must function.
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Jun 4, 2017 23:09
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Mister Adequate posted:Hang about ACAB and all but are you suggesting that a society absent private property would see no other crime whatsoever? Certainly not, but a great deal of crime is due to factors like poverty, drug policy, immigration policy, foreign policy and any number of other policy frameworks that are part and parcel of a capitalist nation-state. The form crime would take in a society that is sincerely and credibly committed to the ideal of common ownership and mutual aid would be markedly different from what occurs in our currently existing conditions. There's nothing to suggest a hypothetical society which is horizontally self-organised cannot formulate a response to such matters. For an existing example of how that could work I suppose you can look at anti-fascist organisations stepping into the void left by the state's reluctance to confront open fascist organisation.
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Jun 4, 2017 23:52
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Brainiac Five posted:I'm not really sure that antifa is a good model for, say, investigating murders, which seems like one of the categories of crime that can't be almost eliminated in a socialist/anarchist society. Not to say that there's no solutions other than a slight variation on current policing, of course. Yeah, it was just an exmaple, I don't propose to have all the answers or anything but there are other ways of doing things and crime needn't be a problem we only answer with existing solutions.
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Jun 5, 2017 00:04
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Brainiac Five posted:Yeah, I do worry that the emphasis on police as suppression leads left-wing people to unconsciously neglect the other functions of the police. I guess a step in the right direction would be a demilitarisation of policing or at least a re-evaluation of their role. As it stands right now they cover an expansive portfolio of stuff that could be considered repressive to varying degrees, from riot control to counter-terrorism, and spinning some of those aspects of policing off to other agencies could at least make their relationship with some subsets of the public less antagonistic and authoritarian.
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Jun 5, 2017 00:14
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hakimashou posted:Yeah didn't capitalists invent the police state since its instrumental for the kind of massive huge scale murder and crushing of dissent necessary to rob everyone of everything they own? Yeah, you're spot on.
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Jun 5, 2017 00:21
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Al-Saqr posted:holy loving poo poo do I hate whoevers running the guardian newspaper. 
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Jun 5, 2017 00:29
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Christ alive, but I loving hate the press in this country.
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Jun 5, 2017 00:38
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OwlFancier posted:Spangly seems to follow the tents of Marxism-Calvinism. Are those the tents you stand inside of and piss out of or the other kind?
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Jun 5, 2017 17:01
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Race-making has historically served two purposes: rationalising the imperial project and undercutting class solidarity. I think the main problem with the contemporary discourse around race is that it comes in the wake of the collapse of political blackness and as such it serves the latter purpose far more than it strengthens bonds of solidarity between workers. However, there's an alarming tendency to want to throw the baby out with the bathwater on the part of modern white leftists, when really what needs to be done is we need to reclaim the discourse of identity politics for the left by reinjecting it with class politics and a materialist understanding of race, gender and sexuality.
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Jun 5, 2017 19:22
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haakman posted:Did Diane Abbott gently caress it again? I think Jezza's a bit busy for that rn
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Jun 5, 2017 23:20
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forkboy84 posted:Here's a terribly stupid article from The New York Times where Chapo Trap House favourite Ross Douthat bemoans that Corbyn isn't treated with the same concern as Marine Le Pen. Ross "Don't loving" Douthat was pretty pro Le Pen, if I recall. Though he may have written his "just asking questions guys" piece about Le Pen around the same time Melenchon was making his late surge.
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Jun 7, 2017 18:23
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Labour have done astoundingly well considering the circumstances of this election and I hope that at least stops the PLP putting the left back in its box like they sorely want to once the dust has settled. A few months ago we thought the next election was still years away, if we look at the next one with the same cautious optimism we've approached this election, all the tories can win themselves tomorrow is a two year stay of execution.
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Jun 7, 2017 18:41
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Guy Goodbody posted:Ive never seen May look so non-evil Well apparently this is according to a fella called Mathias Ogre, so
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Jun 8, 2017 03:49
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PIGS BREXIT posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZujuYiweht8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwHsg2XO--c seems approps
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Jun 8, 2017 08:36
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Polls are saying labour's elbowed its way into quite a poor second place in Scottish voting intention. I do wonder whose lunch they'll be eating, whether they're chiefly clawing back lefties from the SNP or soft unionists from the tories.
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