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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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Namtab posted:Not putting me in the poll is an outrage and I urge you to use whichever option is closest in alphabetical order to namtab to vote for me I assumed you came under "Misc. Far Left Trots".
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 00:24 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 17:08 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:I'm not from England, I don't know how things work over there, but why are Lib Dems in this election? Weren't they completely destroyed last time you guys decided to have an election? How are they still claiming to be a political party? they weren't quite destroyed. Also UKIP have no seats and are still a "proper party" enough that they got to JAQ off on the BBC debate.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 00:25 |
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:Well as it was presented to me... "Limit access to foreign nationals" means "People who work and live here and pay taxes to fund this health service, who may even work in this health services, should Go Home if they want medical care for anything less than a heart attack". EDIT: And yeah, literal tourists already have schemes in place. spectralent fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jun 1, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 00:41 |
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:Now explain why some people want to do away with fuel subsidies for flights and not expand your airports? Fuel subsidy for flight would make flying cheaper to operate and lead to under-valuing of a carbon source, I assume. Opposing that would be trying to financially encourage people to make less flights. Remember this is the UK, if you need to get to most places in the UK it's like a 6-8 hour train ride at most, there's really no reason to fly within-country. Airport expansion's a contentious issue since we really really want to have The Biggest Airport Ever but it'd probably be better if we were expanding airport capacity all around the country.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 00:47 |
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But also yeah the main reason I can never vote green ever is because I studied a science and the Greens either don't understand or don't care about science.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 00:48 |
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OwlFancier posted:In fairness nor do most politicians. They make less of a big deal about the environment, though, and the environment is fundamentally a scientific, evidence-based issue. If you care about the environment, pay attention to scientists. Otherwise you're just doing hippy grandstanding. ISeeCuckedPeople posted:6 to 8 hours is a long period of time. If I could fly for a reasonable price as I understand you can in England to these places that I go in America I would. I did say "tops", Brighton to Aberdeen is 8 hours 30. But flying's not good for the environment, so I can understand why you'd want to limit it if you wanted a drastic programme to lower carbon emissions, which coincidentally we do.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 00:56 |
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OwlFancier posted:And far less so than trains. Well, yes, but "The environment doesn't matter, because capitalism" shouldn't be met with "the environment does matter, because ~gaia~".
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 01:03 |
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OwlFancier posted:Not ideally no, but I'll take sappy hippies over people who are liable to gently caress us over out of malice. The issue is the environment is a fundamentally scientific issue. The sterling example being nuclear power and research thereof; the greens are staunchly opposed to it, because it sounds a bit labcoaty.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 01:29 |
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:The airlines would all convene together to do massive price hikes and blame the party who removed the subsidies and they would lose the next election based off that attack. I think most people wouldn't care, especially if this came out alongside better rail.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 01:31 |
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Namtab posted:Your mate doesn't seem too bright imo Pretty scary how many people I have to explain fundamental aspects of the UK democratic process to on a regular basis, tbh, so this doesn't surprise me. Today I met a man who hadn't heard of the Labour Party and didn't know the groups of politicians were called "parties". This man had registered to vote.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 01:36 |
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I think the thing I have to explain most frequently is that you can't vote for party leaders, and that council seats and parliamentary seats are different. This is very specifically people who think they're actually voting for Teresa May/Caroline Lucas/Jeremy Corbyn, not people who don't want to endorse their party. I had one woman say something like "If the Tory here is so bad why doesn't May just sack him?".Guavanaut posted:It might actually be a better thing under the current system if people just voted for the best constituency representative instead of going by party name. Although I'm not too sure how someone who hasn't heard of major national parties would glean that information. My mind truly boggled since he had heard of the conservatives (from members of his family in the medical profession ). I managed to get a "won't vote tory" out of him but he seemed kind of confused by the entire political process. The best bit was "I thought I just ticked a box". Yes, for a political party you nimrod! spectralent fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jun 1, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 01:50 |
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:So based on the Yougov projections the Tories will not take a majority correct? Maybe, yes, 50, yes, probably willing.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 01:50 |
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OwlFancier posted:The comedy option is that remainaholic Tim Farron goes into coalition with the tories and does a brexit. I think the lib dem base might actually catch fire. The Lib Dems would be finished if he did this. It's all they have left.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 01:51 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:In the actual meaning of the word, rather than the pejorative one! That picture of the girl who shrugs and says "why not both?" in spanish is here.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 01:57 |
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jBrereton posted:Not in the UK, no. We're immune to it. We don't do experts. (Surveys generally suggest people would like to hear from experts but don't know who the experts are. Given the press will never tell them honestly, functionally, the british public don't like experts)
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 12:39 |
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Quanta posted:I guess I don't have enough faith in the average British idiot to be emboldened by the recent polling. I fully expect many of the people who say they're leaning towards Labour again to bottle it come voting day and deliver the nation again to Tory bastards. It'll more than likely be a repeat of the previous election where fence-sitters take the "safe" choice. I wonder, I suspect a lot of people who've been vocally don't-know or against lately are doing it to try and frighten Corbyn out. They know it's a two-horse race and they're not massively swinging lib dem, which you'd expect if they weren't going to vote labour.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 12:41 |
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Anidav posted:Are you guys Strong and stable yet? So strong and stable the PM pushed a grieving daughter out in front of cameras because she's scared of the jam man. K-12 is a model strain of e coli originally isolated from a stool sample, proving that some things are so poo poo they can be used as examples for generations to come. It's on topic! spectralent fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Jun 1, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 13:41 |
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Paxman posted:He's not wrong. He's wrong actually, all liquid except liquids that actively dehydrate you like alcohol and saltwater hydrate you.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 20:56 |
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Josef bugman posted:Could anyone tell me a bit more about the people other than Corbyn? Gardiner at least is wonderful at having total command of figures and a decent capability for being a bit shouty.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 20:57 |
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Tesseraction posted:I'm assuming he's referring to the diuretic effect. The diuretic effect just isn't that strong in tea. The Broneavtomobil 20 was a dumb, ugly armoured car, used by god-fearing communists everywhere until the nazis took them.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 21:08 |
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OwlFancier posted:Of course strictly even seawater hydrates you, it just also fucks up your salt levels and causes your body to kill itself. I was pretty sure that the loss of hydrostatic balance due to salt intake lead to de-facto dehydration, but it's been a while.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 21:12 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It's also nowhere near as big an election issue as it is in the states. There's been very little of it in the campaign, other than Farron's bizarre homophobia being brought forward a few times. That's because it's a wedge issue on the US where people are acting like not being able to scream "RAPE" at rape victims is equivalent to banning thinking.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 17:30 |
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Wait, I'm not watching, did he get one really bad question about nukes or have like five people asked him the same question?
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 21:53 |
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Isn't there something the host can do to prevent people just repeatedly wailing the same thing that's already been answered?
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:00 |
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Vitamin P posted:If they press him he loving lies and says he'd press it. AHA BUT YOUR VIEWS AS A PACIFIST ARE WELL KNOWN YOU WON'T EVEN BACK ARE BRAVE BOYS etc etc
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:12 |
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The problem is that by allowing it to be repeatedly battered on you reduce it to "would you be willing to nuke our enemies, personally, or not?". The anti-apocalypse stance is weak, and the pro-apocalypse stance is known to be a lie.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:18 |
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JOHNSON COCKSLAP posted:I do honestly think it was a half dozen guys happy to find something they could press. The crowd was happier to hear good lady calling them scum than they were angry about his answers I hope that's right.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:20 |
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Snipee posted:This is hope. At least it doesn't seem like the nuke question hurt him. We needed people swung over, though. We need to keep making progress.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:36 |
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Josef bugman posted:Quick things guys a person I know from Uni who is very much a centreist posted this on FB: He has. Multiple times. He's just unwilling to say "...and that was basically the only bad thing, ARE BRAVE BOYS never had a wrong'n in 'em" like the Sun wants him to.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:47 |
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Vitamin P posted:Mutually assured destruction is a thing people understand and people don't like to be told, by a man wanting to be their leader, that 'we loving die and the fucks that killed get off scott free lol' is in any way a plan. anyone who uses nukes on a NATO state is going to immediately invite world armageddon anyway, the UK not doing it personally isn't going to stop the US ending the world in hellfire over it
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 23:27 |
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OwlFancier posted:I'd be curious about a poll of younger folks as to how they feel about it. I'd say it's like 50% "Who even uses nukes lol" and 50% "Nukes mean END OF THE WORLD, thus bad". I've not really met anyone who was rabidly pro-nuke who was under thirty, though I've met a few "final defence of the realm" types.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 23:55 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:So if May gets re-elected, shouldn't they all do that? I mean, every time a Republican in America gets elected, people say they're gonna move to Canada but they never do. But that seems like a really viable option for British people, especially ones who have specialized skills like being a doctor The brain drain is going to be super bad, yes. I mean, gently caress, I'm considering it.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 01:05 |
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"Would you actually nuke someone" is irrelevant, if it ever gets that far MAD failed anyway. "Would you say you'd be willing to nuke someone as part of the elaborate shell-game of nuclear security the entire world has been invested in due to cold war dick-waving" is all that matters, and Corbyn said "maybe", so our part of the charade's done. Nobody's going to nuke us. The Type-59 is a communist tank made by China, which is probably more of an actual threat than the idea of them glassing Liverpool.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 11:28 |
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josh04 posted:North Korea might, with all that money we've been giving them. Coincidentally also have Type-59s.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 11:34 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:These "patriots" only seem to care about economics. And generally with no level of expertise. Where is the patriotic support for human rights, low levels of homelessness, low prison numbers, equality rights etc. Where is the progressive patriotism? Nationalism requires thinking your people are better than other people, it's inherently anti-equal.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 16:43 |
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You can life-hack your way out of losing your vote by not photographing your ballot paper which is literally the easiest thing to do in the world being exponentially more effort to do than not do. Banksy is a dumb idiot moron who's going to lose progressives a bunch of votes and he fully deserves whatever he gets for this stupid, stupid stunt.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 17:21 |
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namesake posted:Start spreading rumours about pencils or whatever the hell that was on about in the eu referendum. Pen doesn't invalidate your vote though.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 17:27 |
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Angepain posted:‘If there is hope,’ wrote Winston, ‘it lies in the 18-24 year olds.’ Remember tiny train world.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 21:54 |
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Well, gently caress.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 22:58 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 17:08 |
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forkboy84 posted:I'm sorry if anyone thinks this is poor taste, but there's just nothing to say about whatever horrible poo poo has gone down in London, & I needed a laugh. Yeah, there's nothing to say and there won't be for a day or two. Honestly, there probably won't be anything to say then, either.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 23:24 |