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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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El Grillo posted:

Yeah this is why unfortunately I think we're hosed, because as far as I've heard most of that UKIP vote has been directly swallowed up by the Tories (hence their large national vote share)? Which means on a constituency-by-constituency basis, if they do turn out to vote, we are screwed in a lot of these seats. Anyone care to disabuse me of the UKIP vote - to - Tories thesis? I would very much like it to not be the case.

It has changed a bit recently:
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/869579928936820738

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'Three minutes of nothing': Herald reporter reflects on PM encounter (it has video you can watch if you really hate yourself)

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She had and given me absolutely nothing. It was like a postmodern version of Radio 4's Just A Minute.

I pictured Nicholas Parsons in the chair: "The next topic is how Plymouth will be affected by Brexit, military cuts and transport meltdown. Theresa, you have three minutes to talk without clarity, candour or transparency. Your time starts now."

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https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/870227734710157312
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/870228467878645760
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/870229670364631040

:suspense:

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icantfindaname posted:

so corbyns going to win and turn britain into a 1970s communist hellscape with portraits of tony benn hanging everywhere and the IRA as a secret paramilitary police?

Maybe in London if it gets independence from the rest of the UK.

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/870246144798068736

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https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/870310676501278720

lmao

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Not Operator posted:

A lot of their more inhuman moments blend together, so I'd appreciate a reminder: is Gove the one who claps like he just grew hands that morning?

Enjoy:

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https://twitter.com/natalie_bloomer/status/870402777901654017
(see replies also)

What is going on?

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https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/870588718775717888

:popeye:

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:discourse:

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Ewan posted:

The questions are so clearly teed up

"There is no clear line on Brexit between Cons & Labour. How are the LDs going to convince the public of the benefits of your policy?"
"The 1p on tax for the NHS is a great policy - but how will you go further to protect the NHS from being politicised"
"How can we empower all parts of the UK & ensure everyone living here (EU & non-EU) feels they are valued?"

No one asks questions like that. What a load of wank.

Mr. Farron, your campaign seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?

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It's started.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40119103

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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has failed to combat anti-Jewish discrimination, according to a senior figure in the party.

The chairman of the Jewish Labour movement, Jeremy Newmark, would not say whether Labour's track record on dealing with anti-Semitism would cost the party a significant number of votes at the general election. But he does see it as a cause for concern.

"Jeremy Corbyn appears to have failed to understand the nature of contemporary anti-Semitism in the same way that it's understood by most of its target group," he said.

Labour MP Wes Streeting - a frequent critic of Mr Corbyn's leadership - has also criticised the party's record on the issue.

"I don't think many Jewish voters in my constituency have been very impressed with the way the Labour party as a whole have responded," said Mr Streeting.

Mr Corbyn has previously said the party does not tolerate anti-Semitism in any way.

https://twitter.com/VictoriaLIVE/status/870557664912089089

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Tory erotica is very weird

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/theresa-mays-secret-weapon-she-exudes-erotic-appeal/

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Theresa May, while she was home secretary, and even when she was a candidate in last summer’s leadership election, seemed an unlikely figure to call forth these essentially visceral, irrational responses.

Why unlikely? Because the emotions I am describing are not sensible and she is patently very sensible. The extravagant collection of shoes, and the controversial leather trousers — so often derided by political commentators and fashion editors — could be seen as attempts to dispel, or at best modify, her sensible image, though I think that judgment overlooks something which we are sometimes too delicate to spell out. This is that — in contrast to some of the other women who have dominated British public life in the last half century — she exudes erotic appeal. Sex appeal is not quite the same as the big mythological draw which was summoned up by, say, Golda Meir or Queen Victoria, but the two are in some way connected.

The Muse of History descends from Heaven and transforms public figures, like a fresco painter turning events into allegory. Had the Labour party had its wits about it, and elected Yvette Cooper as its leader, even she — brisk Balliol graduate of the cropped hair as she may be — could have been in the running for such a transformation. As it was, Destiny chose to touch with its finger the commonsense St Hugh’s geographer. Once this had happened, it became clear that Theresa had ‘It’. You might disagree with much of what she says, but you would be peculiarly insensitive not to have noticed that her voice, the skin, the eyes are all sending signals — whether it is done voluntarily or not does not matter. You can’t invent this quality — she simply has it. This is one of the reasons why the cartoonists who depict her as a beaky-nosed harridan completely fail to capture her essence.

Mrs May will have struck very many pundits, when she came forward as the successor to David Cameron, as a dull person. Her speeches often sound wooden and repetitive. As well as having sex appeal, however, she has been blessed with enemies which a politician could only dream of. As if it was not enough for her to be pitted in the hustings against the hopeless Corbyn, Jean-Claude Juncker lurched, belching over the threshold of Downing Street to transform this busy suburban woman into the Virgin Queen addressing the troops at Tilbury as the Spanish Armada enters the Channel.

Mrs May must have found it hard to believe her luck. Here was a Galtieri moment, in which she could step forward as the British warrior queen — without the painful necessity of committing a war crime by sinking a Belgrano full of Argentinian teenagers.

Theresa May, who is a politician to her fingertips, can add five marginal seats to her list of Labour scalps every time Juncker opens his mouth to insist on the rights of ‘the 27 member states’. His baiting of her is so clumsy that even those such as myself who voted Remain find ourselves responding strangely to her replies. Our ears hear her repeating the same slightly stilted speech she made on 50 previous news bulletins. Some inner force, however, has turned down the volume, and we find we are listening to Elizabeth at Tilbury.

‘Let tyrants fear, I have always so behaved myself that under God I have placed my chiefest strength and safeguard in the loyal hearts and good will of my subjects.’ That famous speech in the summer of the Armada has found echoes in many of May’s speeches, from the first as Prime Minister, in which she promised to look after the interests of those who were just getting by, to the repeated election promises to be strong and stable. She is quite definitely one who would ‘think foul scorn that Parma or Spain or any Prince of Europe should dare to invade the borders of my Realm’.

Some historians think that Elizabeth knew, even as she made this speech, that the Armada had already been blown off course, and the danger of invasion was nil. This resembles Mrs May’s telling her supporters that they must regard the likelihood of a Corbyn victory as a serious threat.

Juncker will have plenty of fun in the next two years putting a spanner in the works, but for the time being Mummy sweeps onwards, borne in heavenly chariots, floating above painted clouds.

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Tories U-turn on plan to build more socially rented council housing

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The Conservatives have U-turned on a flagship pledge to build “a new generation” of social housing announced in their manifesto just weeks ago.

Theresa May personally promised her policy would deliver “a constant supply of new homes for social rent”, but her housing minister has now admitted planned homes would in fact be of a significantly less affordable type.
[…]

Asked whether the homes planned by his party would be let at low-level council rents, the minister said: “No, I think the idea is that they are what you’d call affordable rents in housing terminology, but they are social housing.”

The Department for Communities and Local Government defines social rented housing as having lower rents “determined through the national rent regime” – a specific formula set by the Government.

Affordable-rent housing, meanwhile, is separately defined, and simply requires homes to be “of no more than 80 per cent of the local market rent” – meaning rents could be considerably higher. In practice, social rent tends to come in at around 40 per cent of market rent, meaning that in some areas the difference in rent could be twice as much.

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I'd push the button if it meant an end to nukechat.

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https://twitter.com/tomosgjames/status/870687114324721664

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https://twitter.com/AlecShelbrooke/status/870670771387064322

:qq:

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ronya posted:

he would benefit from a lot of public speaking and hostile interview coaching, both in terms of technique, and in terms of practicing off-the-cuff reiteration of what Labour as a party is offering as a platform, and emphasizing which of those points are active campaign messages du jour

he could also do with better leader's office staff management but that's not novel. by and large this seems like a crapshoot of appointing different people until some magic combination doesn't persistently screw up.

all this would be more fixable if he were younger and had more time.

this is quite aside from other party problems - Scotland, Brexit, etc.

It sounds like what he needs most is a singing coach :v: : Jeremy Corbyn Could See Late Surge In Support From Ex-UKIP Voters, HuffPost UK-Edelman Focus Group Finds

quote:

In a surprising shift, half of one group said they would now consider voting Labour, describing Corbyn as ‘down to earth’, but many were still concerned by his failure to sing the national anthem at a Battle of Britain memorial service in 2015.

I think the headline is overly optimistic. I'm not sure many of these people who are 'considering' Labour will actually turn out and vote Labour.

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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871049102473220102
Fieldwork: 31 May - 02 June.

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Fans posted:

Weird to skip the one right below it.

That one had already been posted I thought.

On a slightly more positive note:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871049802133491713

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Former Met Police Chief Inspector absolutely savaging Theresa May here:

"The Streets Have Been Lost" Striking Interview With Former Police Insp About Cuts

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Hoops posted:

Have the Tories polled below 43% in any poll yet? My bet is that there is a little bit more tightening to come in the last few days from the the polls showing the biggest lead, with an 8% lead being the actual result on the day.

Just this one I think:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/870025264239177729

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Hoops posted:

Two professional journalists, not party politicians, who were almost certainly colleagues for years, on a discussion panel, going over party claims, during election season. That's how these conversations work. Anyone who reads that as the renegade Mason owning the biased MSM doesn't understand what they're looking at.

He doesn't work for Channel 4 News anymore.
He literally goes out campaigning for the Labour party these days: https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/870962878727278592

Also since we're on the topic this is from his latest blog post: https://medium.com/mosquito-ridge/the-course-is-set-on-hope-9cf575076711

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I have repeatedly warned the Labour left that, though our economic programme feels fairly moderate to us, to our adversaries, it feels revolutionary. They will treat us as revolutionaries. And that’s what’s happening

To support Corbyn’s Labour is to open yourself up to accusations of supporting terror, threatening national security, advocating communism and sabotaging “the will of the people”.

Screeching mainstream commentators now say this openly — such as the former Bank of England economist Andrew Lilico, who tweeted that if 38% of Brits even support Labour in the polls then we “do not deserve democracy”.

My advice was always: do the left economic programme first and forget any systemic challenge to the military, diplomatic and security status quo; the economic programme it is radical enough, and resistance to it will be so strong that it will take an entire 5 year parliament to enact.

That’s what Alexis Tsipras understood in Greece, when he removed all the criticism of NATO from Syriza’s programme, refused to dismantle key parts of the Greek secret state, refused to take on the Orthodox Church.

If you are going to dismantle the economic power of the elite, do not simultanteously try to disrupt their institutional, diplomatic and geostrategic certainties. In fact, the Greek experience shows that — in order to effect strategic economic change — the left has to align itself with parts of the national story and take parts of that apparartus with it.

The problem is, for large numbers of radical young people — including left nationalists in Scotland, Greens and people in Momentum — dismantling Britain’s ability to repeat Iraq and Afghanistan, and repress protest movements and stigmatise minorities, is what they came into politics to do. And so did those most closely identified with Corbyn.

So we go into this final week as the classic British motley army Shakespeare wrote about in Henry V. Traditional Labour centrists, prodded out of their sulk by the sudden realisation we have momentum and hope; Greens lending us their vote; the Guardian’s metropolitan liberals grudgingly accepting that a form of radicalism can work. The bright techocrats of Momentum, trained in horizontal activism. Northern working class bruisers, male and female, from the PLP; Welsh Labour, determined to do it their own way; plus a regiment of new converts who don’t fit into any existing category of the left. Moving through us on the eve of battle with zen-like calm, is the white-bearded, snaggle-toothed MP for Islington.

And the battle is coming.

The elite and the billionaire owned media will throw every dirty trick and smear at us for five days. If you have only understood politics as a kind of ping-pong game with a known set of rules, get set to be shocked. All we have on our side is momentum, hope and the massive voter registration of young people that just happened.

If we win the elite will say “WTF just happened?”. So will we.

But here’s the point. If we lose, we will do so possessing all the momentum in British politics. I’m told it’s certain May will be replaced within a year — but who by? There’s scant appetite in the Tories for austerity. They’ve understood the deep positive reaction to Labour’s break with austerity.

That the Tory party drops austerity is likely; but whether it can kick the habit of economic nationalism and xenophobia is a different question. Given the influx of ex-UKIP types, the Tories will probably emerge from a post-May leadership battle as a conservative English nationalist formation.

The only certainty is: win or lose, Labour must become a more democratic party. We’ve had to fight this election with MPs we could not choose. The HQ remains an unwilling participant in the Corbyn project, as does much of the regional apparatus.

The single most valuable weapon in the whole campaign — the manifesto — was a product of party democracy. The second most valuable thing — the leader — was a product of democracy. Yet beyond that there is no democracy.

To find a better way to fit the Labour Party’s different factions and intellectual traditions — this too needs a deeper democracy, so that all can feel they have ownership of the strategy, tactics, slogans and priorities. Democracy means above all stopping the PLP from blocking left candidates in future; having the right to re-select MPs, and ending the system of ad-hoc bans, suspensions and time limits that are strangling opposition to the HQ bureaucracy.

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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871096654212063232

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Can turnout difference in 18-25 year olds really explain the 11 point difference in the polls? What % of eligible voters are 18-25?

I'm guessing there's much more to the difference than just youth turnout

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Labour pledges VAT cut to help families on low incomes

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Labour will aim to help tens of millions of people who are struggling on lower incomes by cutting the rate of VAT if it wins the general election, the shadow chancellor John McDonnell has told the Observer.

The new pledge to use the proceeds of future growth to reduce VAT from its current 20% level came as Theresa May and her senior ministers appeared to be at loggerheads over the Conservatives’ own tax policies, adding to an impression that the Tories are suffering a bout of late campaign jitters before polling day on Thursday.

As the parties prepared their final pitches amid signs that the polls continue to narrow, a confident McDonnell reiterated his message that 95% of people would face no rises in their income tax bills under a Labour government.

But in a high-stakes move, he went further, saying his priority would be to deliver a “fair tax system” under which income tax rises for the highest earners would be followed by VAT reductions for all, when economic growth allows. Such a reduction, he said, would deliver the greatest proportionate benefits to those on low and middle incomes.

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CoolCab posted:

Also, if I recall correctly YouGov provided the single poll that predicted a Yes win in the Scottish referendum, they were one of the highest for Labour in the 2015 election and they were one of the highest for Remain in the EU referendum (please correct me if I'm wrong). Too many internet polls, not enough telephone ones, iirc?

They were one of the pollsters that had Leave ahead. It caused a bit of a public spat at the time: http://uk.businessinsider.com/pollsters-clash-over-brexit-predictions-2016-5

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Also, stupid question, but I assume the six dead figure excludes the attackers?

I believe so yes:

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871328428963901440

:fuckoff:

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I assume you are talking about this:
https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/871334312221736960

On a similar theme there was this interview on LBC yesterday: http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ian-payne/striking-interview-with-former-police-inspector/

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jabby posted:

Seems to me Labour's best strategy now will be to bang the security drum tonight/tomorrow, then hammer their new pledge of trying to reduce VAT along with reeling off all their other popular policies for the rest of the week.

Don't know how much difference can be made. I gained a small amount of faith in the British public when Manchester didn't immediately result in a poll bounce for May/UKIP, I'm just hoping it doesn't get taken away again. I have a worrying suspicion the Tories are going to trot out Corbyn's mis-quoted comments about shoot to kill in the next few days.

https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/871297582844268544

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What the gently caress

Far right raises £50,000 to target boats on refugee rescue missions in Med

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Far-right activists are planning a sea campaign this summer to disrupt vessels saving refugees in the Mediterranean, after successfully intercepting a rescue mission last month.

Members of the anti-Islam and anti-immigrant “Identitarian” movement – largely twentysomethings often described as Europe’s answer to the American alt-right – have raised £56,489 in less than three weeks to enable them to target boats run by aid charities helping to rescue refugees.

The money was raised through an anonymous crowdfunding campaign with an initial goal of €50,000 (about £44,000) to pay for ships, travel costs and film equipment. On Saturday the group confirmed they had reached their target but were still accepting donations. A French far-right group hired a boat for a trial run last month, disrupting a search-and-rescue vessel as it left the Sicilian port of Catania. They claimed they had slowed the NGO ship until the Italian coastguard intervened.

Figures from the UN’s migration agency, the IOM, reveal that 1,650 refugees have died crossing the Mediterranean so far this year with a further 6,453 migrants rescued off Libya and 228 bodies pulled from the waters. Humanitarian charities operating in the Mediterranean have helped save the lives of thousands of refugees, with women and children making up almost half of those making the crossing.

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A lot of Labour MPs refused to support it: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/27/labour-mps-face-backlash-over-failure-to-vote-on-yemen-campaign

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One Labour MP, who is not supportive of the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, but voted for the motion, said he was frustrated and upset that a number of his colleagues were “using the issue as a way of trying to beat Jeremy”.

“It is such as serious issue and it’s obviously going on the Tory side as well, but there is a massive humanitarian disaster here. It should not be an opportunity to score political points,” he said.

It is understood some Labour MPs who opposed the motion were orchestrating deliberate abstentions and in discussions with some Conservatives about the chances of defeating it.

PLP in being huge shits shocker.

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Spangly A posted:

no editor in the country will touch it

To be fair the Mail did publish Oborne's article which pointed the finger at MI6: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4546934/PETER-OBORNE-MI6-share-blame-jihadis.html

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It's funny how nearly everybody who ever worked with Theresa May ends up hating her

https://twitter.com/SteveHiltonx/status/871611939310379008

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https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/871623527434248192

Jesus…

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The DPRK posted:

To those of you in support of Corbyn this election, how do you remember feeling this far out from the 2015 election?

kustomkarkommando posted:

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION'

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Nov 28, 2014

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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Obviously shoot to kill is not current policy.

Somebody should tell that to the BBC because they keep saying that it is (1:14):
https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/871686888070889474

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https://twitter.com/Kent_Online/status/871684502132862977

well, that's quite a thing

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Blasmeister posted:

Pushing the shoot to kill policy thing is a super cynical play by the tories, I hope that the combination of it being actually completely unrelated to this terror attack and using a misleadingly edited interview will backfire, but 'corbyn wouldn't have let are boys shoot the terrorists' is easier to assert than 'shoot to kill is a policy we do not actually have that has nothing to do with armed response to an active threat' is to explain.

Every BBC outlet has been saying all day that a) shoot to kill is current policy, b) it is what was used on Saturday night, and c) Corbyn opposes it. The election is over.

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Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

Entropy238 posted:

Haven't actually seen much from old McDonell this GE – have they been intentionally keeping him out of the press or something? He seems like a nice bloke so I don't see why.

Thornberry and the guy with the wizard accent have been all over the news.

He was scheduled to do an interview with Marr on Sunday, where I assume he was going to talk about the VAT cuts thing.

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