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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I just imagined Tony Blair's face it Corbyn wins this election.

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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Maybe something like this...

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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Has anyone else noticed how quiet Jess Phillips has been?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Gonzo McFee posted:

Those paper front pages are pure Lyndon Crosby. Lie big two days before the election, by the time everyone knows it's a lie it's the day after the election.

We should buy up all the Mail etc at opening time and dump them in a recycling bin somewhere.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Gonzo McFee posted:

We should burn down their printing presses.

Like.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Mackers posted:

Tories will fall 22 seats short of a majority, says latest YouGov model - Independent


Labour SNP Coalition? Oh god I need to stop reading polls it will just make it all the more painful :cry:

If you've been reading this thread you'd know that it'd be a Labour minority government and not a coalition. Come on.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm not in Britain, so I'm mainly getting British political news second hand from reading threads. As far as I cant ell, Theresa May's promises to the British people are to fire all the cops, fire all the firefighters, and replace the internet with going to jail. And the primary argument for voting for her is that Jeremy Corbyn is either silly or horrifying.

Does she have an actual positive message to get people to vote for her?

No, you seem to have a pretty good understanding of the situation.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Baron Corbyn posted:

An interesting note on Survation's polling. They're the only polling company not to have changed their methodology since the 2015 election which you might think doesn't bode well for Labour. However, their final poll for the 2015 election suggested the Tories would get 37% and Labour would get 31% which they didn't publish because it was so off base compared to everyone else that they though it was wrong.

Just throwing that out there for you people suffering from excess hope.

Where did you read this?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Sweet. That should mean 3-4 pick ups in Wales for Labour.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Pissflaps posted:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/872591111746990080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

As I said earlier this range isn't much different to a few days ago: so why believe in a labour victory any less now than then?

I think a lot of pollsters are going to feel silly tomorrow.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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thehappyprince posted:

they should all just use the nate silver 'well i did give him a 5% chance so i did actually call it right' method

Eh, 538 had Trump at 25-30% when others had him at 1%.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Pissflaps posted:

Survation will feel the silliest.

You have no evidence for this.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Pissflaps posted:

Nate Silver has absolutely nothing useful to say about this general election.

He thinks it's an uncertain outcome with a wide range of possibilities. You're convinced of a massive Tory majority.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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TheRat posted:

This one's fun


(It's probably 100% bullshit)

They claim to have access to 80% of smartphone users :shrek:

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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The train lady asked me for some vote Labour stickers :v:

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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CeeJee posted:

Not even that, they poll with popup adds in other apps.

http://www.qriously.com/how-it-works/

This is the most :psyduck: sampling method ever.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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The Libearian posted:

Gritted my teeth for Hillary Benn, polling place a lot quieter than it was for brexit.

It could be worse. Imagine if you lived in Woodcock's constituency.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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This means nothing unless you know what the UKIP vote in those constituencies is. Tory net gains from UKIP have steadily declined over the campaign and it only looks like around 10 seats are actually at risk from this assuming Labour don't pick up voters elsewhere.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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TheRat posted:

Uh, doesn't all indications so far suggest that the 2017 curve should be to the left of brexit?

The Ashcroft stuff is weird.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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https://twitter.com/twinkbat/status/872869495769104385

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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History Comes Inside! posted:

Didn't the markets rise a little bit on brexit night because it was obvious we were staying in and then lol

You forgot the best part. Farage conceded because of the market movements and then had to unconcede.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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https://twitter.com/mattsayward/status/872880942599241728

hopeisalie.jpg

Lord of the Llamas fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jun 8, 2017

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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https://twitter.com/supernautynew/status/872890663205056512

I can't stop watching the Twitter "turnout" search feed. :psyduck:

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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https://twitter.com/BlueTintedNick/status/872894838529765376
https://twitter.com/BlueTintedNick/status/872896476921438209

Hope. Is. A. Lie.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Jose posted:

stop posting these you're getting my hopes up

I'll stop posting when you stop refreshing. :psyduck:

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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https://twitter.com/BronteWeinbren/status/872904681445609473

Peak rumour mill.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I can't read all the posts has Pissflaps admitted he was completely wrong yet?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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This is going rather well. :getin:

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Gort posted:

:siren: So what model is this actually following now? :siren:

The I'm dreaming and will wake up to a 150 seat Tory majority model.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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The only thing that actually surprises me are the Scotland results.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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(•_•) - Theresa May,
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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I'd love to know what the Queen says to May today hahahahaha.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Not sure the DUP are wise in associating with someone who is literally the worst prime minister ever.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Do we need a 2/3 majority in parliament to call another election because of fixed term act?

Edit: 388, the number of seats Labour will win in the next election.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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nothing to seehere posted:

That's a 9% swing I think? Which, seat wise, would probably give Corbyn a majority.

You must be confused. The only question was how big the Tory majority would be.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I was predicting that May was toast by Wednesday after the Tory backbencher meeting but I'm wondering if she'll last that long now.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Guys Corbyn has sunk Labour everyone knows that, right Pissflaps?

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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I just keep laughing every time I remember UKIP only got 1.8%.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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Baron Corbyn posted:

I'm not so sure it was just the wrongness of the polls, I think we were genuinely pretty far back at the time May called the election, the Survation poll on 22nd April had it had 40-29 in the Tories' favour. The other polls were much worse and as we know now completely wrong, but all showed voters turning to Labour through out the campaign, so even if the methodology was wrong, they still showed trends.

Yeah, the polls were spot on this time. The flaw was in the turnout assumptions (i.e. past election turnout vs self report). IIRC the Ipsos poll that showed an 8 point Tory lead actually had Labour and the Tories tied before turnout adjustments (but after demographic weighting). This is why "poll averaging" is nonsense when you have fundamental differences in methodology, the spread in results wasn't statistical noise it was purely methodological.

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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

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I'm glad to see that Pissflaps has agreed to serve in the shadow cabinet if asked.

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