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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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WeAreTheRomans posted:I suppose there's a school of thought that a complete rout of the Tories could represent a mandate for revoking A50, but I couldn't see even such a hypothetically-emboldened Labour party having the bollocks to go through with it The Tories could lose their majority here, but it's still a bit much to hope that Labour will actually win outright - there's a good chance we'll end up with a coalition government Assuming we dodge the risk of the Lib Dems propping up the Tories like Tim 'bantzman' Farron has threatened to do, we could get a Labour coalition and that means giving the other parties what they want. The Lib Dems have been pretty aggressive about opposing Brexit and demanding a referendum on the final deal, it feels like they'd be happy to make that a condition for their support and take a lot of the credit/heat for it Don't forget, nobody outside of the right wing parties really wants Brexit to happen, including the EU, and for all the 'Corbyn whipped for it he loves it!!!' politicking his personal position was that he wanted to stay in with reforms. Which we might be able to get - negotiating with the EU on a deal for staying in, where they need to offer concessions to win the public over
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God that appearance with Corbyn and Thornberry, enjoying themselves and playfully smack-talking journalists. Can you imagine a government with actual human beings in it?
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Jun 1, 2017 17:35
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Hey since PIGS is the official UKMT tag, does anyone want to do an art and make a square tag for the mobile apps? So long as the app stores don't look at it and hit the Graphic Indecency button it's all good
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Jun 1, 2017 17:48
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Pesky Splinter posted:^^^ Cheers guy! I'll have to run the options by Team Awful so if anyone else wants a go feel free the icon is called pigfuckin.gif if you need inspiration I guess I should say the icons need to be 90x90 (making them 2x or 4x and shrinking them down is always a good plan) with square corners, and in PNG format. The others are all here
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Jun 1, 2017 19:22
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Not to be a jerk but isn't BritainElects basically a twitter feed that reposts poll results and keeps a rolling average? What model are these bold predictions arising from Also thanks for the extra  !Baron Corbyn posted:Buckingham, it's Bercow. Bercow has always been very powerful
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Hi gang, QT was shite today well thanks for reading! Henry Black posted:Bit surprised by the negativity in this thread. Explain to me, like an idiot, why it's so bad? He didn't even lose a lot of the audience over his answers. Unless everybody was watching a different show to me, one of the loudest rounds of applause that evening was the girl saying she was shocked at the murderous intent of the room. Far louder than all the It's more that May's section was incredibly tedious but she almost exclusively got to talk about policy and government. The Tories have been in power for 7 years but she got to talk like this was a new party trying to get elected to change things - and when she was brought up on their record, she was able to flit between weakeconomy/toughchoices and strongeconomy/muchinvestment duality as it suited the argument she wanted to make. The very few attacks from the audience were either deflected into another point or just ablated through sheer tedium as she droned on and on Meanwhile Corbyn had about half his questions outright attacking him over nuclear weapons, the IRA and Hamas, and where is teh money coming from despite the manifesto being costed, unlike the Tories who are literally saying 'our plan is like, ideas' - and there were multiple people hitting each of these points. Whatever the audience makeup, the QT team chose those questioners and knew what they were going to ask. Did we really need several people repeating the same accusations and reckons as the last person? There were some decent questions in there but a lot of it was people queueing up to have a pop
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Jun 3, 2017 00:22
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They didn't really get a chance to come back, the lady nurse was trying to reply at the end but Dimbleby moved on. I'm glad shouty man nurse got to call her out a little but May pretty much got to talk poo poo and pretend everything is fine, actually
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Jun 3, 2017 00:28
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Regarde Aduck posted:Corbyn didn't do badly. He just didn't do as well as he has been. Apparently, this is the end of him. Did people really think he'd get to election day unscathed? Still don't think most people give a gently caress about nukes the same way that audience did. If he wins or not it won't be down to that shitshow. It's less the actual nuke poo poo and more the way he was publicly dogpiled and attacked repeatedly for the last 20 minutes or whatever. May (a person who is actually responsible for harming the country and the people living in it) was pretty much able to present herself as this very boring but serious politician, and that's her entire plan for success - especially when she's making everything about brexit and the negotiations For people who are undecided it makes the status quo look like a safer bet. Who knows how much effect it will have but it could have been a lot worse for May and a lot better for Corbyn
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Namtab posted:Is this like the absolute reverse of the BBC debates where it's the left's turn to scream about an unbalanced audience? Not really, the other one was an actual debate where the questions were put to everyone on the panel. Most of the complaints seemed to be about the general reactions of the audience (correctly laughing at the Tories and Eddie Hitler) This one was the leaders facing questions targeted specifically at them. It's not about the audience in general, it's about who was allowed to speak and the pre-approved questions they were allowed to direct at a single candidate. Corbyn got the greatest hits of the right-wing front pages over and over and over
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Pochoclo posted:A random hash, man, come on, this is not that hard. Instead of I think you made a hash of this algorithm
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Namtab posted:To be clear, on the international scale IS are a problem, and ignoring them is probably not going to be any more effective than our current strategy of brimstone missiles. I don't really have an answer. A big part of their recruiting strategy is to get talking to disaffected youth, and spin them this story about the way Muslims are treated by the west and how the only way there can be real peace and respect is to establish an... Islamic state. So they give them an idealistic cause and a sense of being part of a movement for change, which is why you get people travelling to Syria with copies of Islam for Dummies and no idea of what they're in for That's why engaging with those people is so important, give them a stake in society and stop contributing to the violence and hostility that recruiters point to and say 'see what they're doing to us?' And that's why you don't let terrorists push you to escalate that
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TheRat posted:Just Asking Questions definitely JAQing it all right ISeeCuckedPeople posted:What I've gathered from these attacks is that the European Intelligence community is lightyears behind the NSA, CIA, and FBI when it comes to stopping these things. Everyone's already covered the teeny tiny flaw in your point, but how exactly do you pre-emptively stop someone with a car or a knife from attacking people? It's not exactly a plot requiring an international team of master criminals to get together
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Jun 4, 2017 02:09
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Flip Yr Wig posted:Isn't a large part of British patriotism pride in calmly handling foreign violence? I'd like to point you to our electronic old men
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Jun 4, 2017 16:17
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Alright time for the antifa boats
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Steve2911 posted:How is that only revealed nearly a day later? It was mentioned last night but I guess they're only now confirming that's exactly what happened
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Who cares if some random idiot posts sincerely but they're really at home going 'haha I don't think this at all!!!'Gonzo McFee posted:The goal of a troll is to make everyone else look dumb, not to roll around in yer own poo poo looking like a twat. This is beautiful
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spectralent posted:do any of us really think anything I;m thinking about thos Brexit Negotiations
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Angepain posted:Has he made his one post a year in these threads yet? I can't wait to find out what sick burns he has spent the time preparing against us marxist communist loony lefties Just do a text search for 'Dear Leader' 
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Jun 4, 2017 21:53
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The DPRK posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w It might pick up some steam if Corbyn's 'we have to look at Saudi Arabia'/the buried report stuff gains some traction. Honestly it seems like right now the news is mostly all about the terrorism (also Laura K implying Corbyn was first to resume campaigning and Theresa May will start tomorrow) CptAwesome posted:
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Pissflaps posted:Uh oh they let her on the telly Look at this absolute poo poo. An interview with no questions. She doesn't have the PR chops to turn this around and take control (which is bad) but they literally invited her on to play some memory game
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Oberleutnant posted:I'm having to think about this right now as my gf wants me to move to Barcelona with her in the autumn, and on the one hand it would be amazing, but on the other hand the only Spanish I know is how to tell her I love her. Half considering taking an OU course in IT while working shity jobs for a couple years and just basically starting over, but it's a scary prospect. Get on Duolingo, it's v good. Plus they have a flirting section where all the comments are 'what the hell' so at least you can make her laugh double nine posted:https://twitter.com/unisontweets/status/871802585585418241 Someone tweet them and tell them to put some +s on those crime numbers because at a glance they look like reductions In fact tell them to make it 'change for X crimes' so it's not so wordy and you can actually fit the stats on screen on mobile baka kaba fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Zalakwe posted:I'm starting to think this election is about the engaged versus the not engaged. If only we could have cloned him. Everyone he actually meets thinks he's great. Nah mate, he's unelectable innit! Good thing we spent all this time poisoning the well trying to force him out. Any other candidate would be seeing more success and engagement in this election! Imagine the cheering for Owen Smith, men and women weeping openly for joy
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Skinty McEdger posted:Cooper won't be the first to announce, she'll let a couple of other people come forward first and then come in at the urging of other PLP members as a unity option. Good news, ITV's coverage will have 'expert analysis' from Gideon and Yvette Cooper's husband (and bff of Andy Burnham) so you can probably expect chat in that direction a whole lot earlier
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Prince John posted:Is anyone elses Facebook feed full of this shite? Going malt
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Jun 7, 2017 23:21
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Chaos reigns as that raccoon says Wonder if Labour's free tuition pledge is enough to push the kids into voting in force. I mean in a sense it's like a large cash bonus, and it's a big chunk of Labour's budget. Hopefully it'll (literally) pay off
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Jun 7, 2017 23:42
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^^^ cheers guy - I hope your dad voted! Not for the bad guys though!Grouchio posted:You're surrounded by a pack of sad English bulldogs too stubborn to want to move to America where change is at least still possible - what did you expect? America, that famously easy place to move to
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Jun 8, 2017 06:22
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Should be an exit poll around 5 or whatever that will set the flavour of the evening First results are probably like a few hours after that
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Jun 8, 2017 07:49
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Someone get an 'I voted' hashtag going
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Prince John posted:Yeah, it hasn't really come up specifically much in the campaign, has it? Certainly my Dad isn't the only 60-70 year-old I've heard mention it, but if you didn't live through it I doubt the average person even knows about it. Tell your dad to stop voting based on what was happening forty years ago and maybe look at what's happening to the country right now
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NikkolasKing posted:So I'm American and the talk of "the olds will gently caress us all" has been kinda confusing to me, but the more I learn and see about UK politics and media, the more I see British senior citizens are pawns of a truly evil elite that is manipulating them via the medium they would be most comfortable with.  Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/_snozberries/status/872767756751572994 I know they're enjoying themselves and trying to be funny, but everyone should spread this around as much as possible - if it starts trending it might gently caress off a lot of young people who weren't voting and provide a boost to Labour's vote. It'd be nice if it's the Sun wot won it for Corbs
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Fairly passive posted:I just voted LibDem from Saudi Arabia. Not revealing in which constituency. Thanks Mum! Don't worry we'll find out when they report that vote
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quote:You’re probably thinking to yourself (or perhaps not) – what is the former Ukip leader Nigel Farage doing today, now that he’s not standing for parliament? Well, the anti-elitist, public school-educated, former City broker is at the Global Investment Forum, sponsored by a Swiss banking group and global private equity boutique. https://twitter.com/abiroreibi/status/872787439772983296 hehehe hehehehehe!!
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communism bitch posted:If you want a positive thought: my completely subjective opinion is that most young people working adults are voting after work or uni because gently caress getting up even earlier than usual to vote beforehand. The majority of people to vote so far are probably terminally bored olds with no other committments during the day. 
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Jun 8, 2017 18:20
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UrbicaMortis posted:I'm personally hoping the labour left can wrest control over the leader nominating process like they're trying to and put up someone decent and younger to replace Corbyn. I like corbyn but he does have a lot of baggage and is getting on in years, so him stepping down in a year or two for a chosen successor would be ideal. He doesn't have a lot of baggage, he has a lot of good things that the right wing can smear him over because people are idiots, and he's had to climb back up from a difficult position after his own party desperately tried to oust him. Look at this drat comeback, the personal popularity, the spontaneous outbursts of energy and hope from people. Imagine if he had time to connect with people and push his agenda over the long term instead of having to rush it out in a few weeks He does need to do what he set out to do, reforming the party so this surge in leftism can continue and grow, because you don't want the whole movement to be centred around one person, and I really doubt he wants a cult of personality anyway. But any successor will face the same treatment
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UrbicaMortis posted:Sure but I think because he was the person who broke through, as it were, he has become totemic to the press and labour MPs. I think a younger successor who's still left-wing will be less of a lightening rod. Maybe not with the press but at least with a decent amount of Labour MPs. I might just be being naive on that front though. I think if anything they'll see a new, younger successor as an easier target. Corbyn's a nice jam grandad but he's also a man of steel - he's had decades of campaigning, and organising, supporting difficult causes and holding his own party to account, and he stuck out the years of attacks as leader and shrugged it off. He's a political badass and they've tried their best to come for him, and look what's happened - soaring popularity from the depths of personal polling, a genuinely enthused electorate That's why they tried so hard to stop him, there's an establishment in the party and Corbyn and his agenda threatens it. If the system is changed to allow this to keep happening (instead of preventing it, which is how it's currently set up - Corbyn was an anomaly) they lose their grip. So they'll absolutely attack whoever represents the leftist faction, and if they can be manipulated or undermined to reverse things that's exactly what will happen. They'll smell blood
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Jun 8, 2017 19:48
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Zephro posted:A hard Brexit is one that involves leaving the single market, which, remember, even the Vote Leave campaign mocked as crazy and silly and self-destructive and said no-one was advocating that. Soft Brexit is some EEA-type arrangement. No-one's proposing that now, it's just different flavours of hard Brexit. I can believe Labour will be marginally less head-bangy then the c Tories, absolutely. But it's a good hard Brexit either way. I keep saying this but Labour's language about freedom of movement is very very very specific and repeated verbatim every time the question is asked. "We're leaving the EU, that means free movement will end." But leaving the EU doesn't mean you can't have a free movement agreement of some kind. They've clearly made a conscious decision to focus on a technicality and never commit to anything more - Free Movement as a condition of EU membership will end because our EU membership will end. They're saying no more or less than that, even when pushed, just talking about a general 'managed migration' policy (which could apply to anything really, it doesn't preclude exceptions for the EU) Labour's approach has always focused on retaining single market access to protect trade and basically change as little as possible. People say this is impossible without agreeing to the rest of the terms, including free movement. They're aware of this. If the priority is to retain that access and status, then that means other aspects (like freedom of movement) will have to be conceded as part of the new agreement. That's not a contradiction, all they've said is that we're leaving the EU, and that we're not leaving without a deal. Everything points to them wanting a deal that is basically like being in the EU
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UrbicaMortis posted:Also, unrelated but nice av. Paul is so dreamy, dunno wtf twisto sees in Bradley
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