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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Reminder:quote:So here we go - forget vote share, that's for internal wrangling afterwards and arguments about FPTP, the important thing is who ends up running the country and how much they're going to have to fight their own backbenchers afterwards. Please remember to quote one of my posts if you want to enter because I'm only skimming the thread at the moment, if you've entered and I've not replied to you let me know.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I assumed the SNP was much like Sinn Fein; Left Wing Anti-UK Nationalists. Sinn Fein are a particularly special case because they will not take their seats so their only real role in UK elections is to bugger up the maths on very tight coalition calculations.
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Jun 1, 2017 06:56
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M_P_R posted:^^ This plus what's the average age of the poster's on here? The demo of SA skews a lot older than you'd expect just because it's a dead gay forum that you have to pay to access.
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Jun 1, 2017 07:58
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https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/870066949417570305 That would be one of the more amazing outcomes of this shitshow, no matter how unlikely.
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Jun 1, 2017 09:19
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feedmegin posted:I suggest everyone itt vote for the 'buy feedmegin a new car' option someone in the last thread chose You've got a week to get that as a registered charity. Also the current prize pool would buy you two new brake pads, so I wouldn't be picking out what type of animals you want to die for the upholstery in your new Bentley just yet.
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Jun 1, 2017 10:22
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OwlFancier posted:Apparently I like grime?? Grime is cool and good like all things that come from Tower Hamlets.
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Jun 1, 2017 15:10
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Oberleutnant posted:I have zero actual evidence for what I'm about to say, but something tells me your average brexiteering kipper wouldn't be too phased by Farage being bezzie mates with Putin, because Putin's the kinda strongman arsehole that a lot of kippers think is great. Even criminal collusion to rig an election probably wouldn't both them too much, because who would Farage be stitching up in this scenario? A bunch of traitors who hate britain! I remember thinking after the American election that Putin was to put out a wish list of how he wanted politics within NATO to go over the last ten years that you'd be hard-pressed to tell it apart from how it's actually going. However this all presupposes that a) the FSB are actually competent at things other than enriching themselves and b) that the West isn't perfectly capable of hitting their own self-destruct button. However I could certainly believe a conspiracy theory that the FSB have been busy planting evidence that they're behind everything from the credit crunch to Brexit, because holy poo poo what a great way of guaranteeing your budget in perpetuity. e: oops, "we" for "he" is one hell of a typo and certainly not Freudian at all...
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Jun 1, 2017 17:01
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wouldn't any Russian intervention more likely attack the Tories anyway? Wouldn't Corbyn's foreign policy of stopping arms deals with brutal dictatorships and plotting a more non-interventionist course be more amenable to Russia? Assuming they're genius puppet masters with a magic wand they'd probably want a hung Tory parliament, as that's the result most likely to result in the most chaotic possible Brexit process, and keeping the entire EU off-balance is both easier and probably far more profitable for them than having the UK as a client state. As it is there's probably nothing they could actually do to press any particular result over any other because let's face it UK politics are a catastrofuck and any attempts to stir the pot would probably backfire spectacularly.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:09
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vodkat posted:I'm not sure what wet and dry tories are, but they sound even more repulsive than your normal run of the mill tory. So the terms have drifted a bit from their original meanings but broadly it's one of the main divisions in the party. The names came about because Thatcher (or possibly one of her advisers) began referring to Geoffrey Howe and a few of her Cabinet who began to advise that monetarist shock therapy had gone too far, especially in light of the Brixton and Toxteth Riots, as being "wet", and the more dead-eyed of her followers started calling themselves "Dries" in contrast. Like I say the definition has drifted a lot over the intervening years (particularly as the party is much more homogeneous economically) and is more to do with attitudes to social policy. It's nowhere near as strong a division as it once was, mainly because they've all got Europe to be divided over instead. FWIW Cameron, Gideon and co were seen as quite wet while Gove, IDS, and Jeremy "Hunt" oval office are all as dry as the grave (and indeed got their cabinet roles purely because Cameron needed to balance the Cabinet to keep the Monday Club onside). May, as with most things, is a windsock who tries to pretend to be both.
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Jun 1, 2017 18:17
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Jose posted:lol if we get a hung parliament and hunt decides to go for leader I'm a little surprised he didn't go for it last year, but that might have been a very wise move - it was always going to be a poisoned chalice, and keeping his head down (his natural response to everything, the weaselly little wanker) might well have been the best move.
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Jun 1, 2017 18:26
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staberind posted:Jam Uncle will be forever the Jam Uncle of my heart, Grime Minister Is, on the other hand, ACE. Unless they've changed the law recently, there's no legal drinking age in the UK as long as it's with parental consent. You just can't buy until 18, which is why the young are pointless - they can't get a round in.
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Jun 1, 2017 19:29
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Regarde Aduck posted:If even 10% of this stuff is true, what were our intelligence services doing? Can anyone just engineer votes now as long as you have the cash? With all the wiretapping and other dodgy poo poo GCHQ does why did it take this long for someone to go "Hmmm Farage eh, really wants us out of the EU and Russia loves him. Do you think, bare with me, there is a conflict on interest here?". Honest answer? Spying on political figures is really, really frowned upon in the UK (to the point where the Wilson Doctrine has now been codified in the new Investigatory Powers Act) so they'd have needed some really serious overt evidence of wrongdoing before they even thought of getting involved.
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Jun 1, 2017 19:37
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Sapozhnik posted:State intelligence services were crawling all over the Labour party back in the 80s or thereabouts because they might have Soviet infiltrators (which tbf they probably did) but oh no when there's rumours about the dodgy foreign connections of a hard-right nationalist party in the modern day then tapping their phones is not the done thing all of a sudden. Wonder why that might be. They really weren't, to the point they had no idea Tam Dalyell was having regular meetings with Oleg Gordievsky, then the KGB resident in London, even though Gordievsky was actually an SIS agent. Well the two officers handling Gordievsky knew but didn't feel the need to share with anyone else because Dalyell wasn't giving Gordievsky anything and it was considered way too big a risk to possibly tip off the KGB, who were strongly suspected to have infiltrated both services, by spreading the knowledge any further. Neither Special Branch or MI5 (or indeed Dalyell*) knew about the meetings until Gordievsky's memoir came out. Now they were certainly crawling all over the unions, CND, and the near-infinite fringe parties with names like The Socialist Party of You and Me and I'm Not Sure About Me but the excesses of the Young Turks' molehunt in the seventies had led to them backing right off Labour itself. * Obviously Dalyell knew about the meetings but as far as he was aware Gordievsky was simply a diplomat interested in talking about Britain - and as it turns out even if Dalyell had accidentally let anything slip, Gordievsky barely understood a word of it because of Dalyell's accent and just made up his reports back to Moscow.
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Jun 1, 2017 21:25
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Hello person who has never had a hangover Dehydration is almost never the cause of a hangover, and anyone who's had dehydration knows it doesn't really feel like a hangover.
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Jun 1, 2017 21:49
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:It is absolutely a contributing factor, next time you have a skinful have a pint of water before you go to bed. It makes a massive difference* The only difference it makes to me is that I need to wake up to piss even more and so I feel even more poo poo the next morning.
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Jun 1, 2017 21:59
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Sapozhnik posted:...What? The  community have suddenly latched onto this thought too, and now claiming she called the election because she wasn't likely to see 2020. Others claim that she's got serotonin syndrome which is probably just as far a reach. Personally I think that someone has finally realised that seeing her in interviews that are even slightly hostile gives the lie to the idea of her being strong, stable, or indeed capable of dealing with anything that isn't laid on a plate for her.
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OwlFancier posted:God I can't imagine trying to wear any leather in this weather. True, I just realised I hadn't got round to weatherproofing my new leather jacket when I got caught in a thunderstorm on the way home tonight. Oh right, the heat? Not a problem compared to the waves of ~80 degree air coming off the engine of a motorbike, the rain was actually fairly welcome. Some may mock bikers but when climate change really hits and all of Britain is a Mad Max hellscape we're the only ones who aren't going to be dying of heatstroke.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/ng-interactive/2017/jun/02/the-guardian-view-on-our-vote-its-labour Somehow this is more shocking than Farage's endorsement. OwlFancier posted:I own one leather jacket and while it is quite waterproof even wearing it open I sweat like a tory in a primary school even in winter. Fashion leather jackets are often just top-grain backed or even coated with PU, so they're much easier to take care of, lighter, and waterproof. A proper bike jacket will be full-hide and uncoated (and usually vented) so even though they're much heavier they're much more comfortable in warm weather, but need careful care taken of them especially if you get them wet.
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Jun 2, 2017 18:23
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Obliterati posted:Personally I'm holding out for pocket size EMPs They already exist, but they do require a small explosive charge so maybe aren't great for hand-holding.
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Jun 2, 2017 18:32
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Regarde Aduck posted:That doesn't seem so much crazy as strangely single issue. I'd say anyone standing on a national single issue is completely wasting their time and money just because of the way Parliament is structured - even if he were somehow to be elected he's basically going to get to file a couple of early-day motions which have the same legislative power as a Facebook post. While I guess it's not strictly crazy, it's certainly wildly unrealistic even in the best-case scenario.
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Jun 2, 2017 19:28
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Those who seek to limit and curtail the freedoms of a individual in order to meet their collectivist/marxist aims. Those will use underhanded means to try and destroy ideological opponents while claiming its in the name of equality and tolerance. Like poor Adolph H, bullied into suicide after 4 years of repression by those evil commies.
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Jun 2, 2017 19:30
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Since its a concept I'd imagine it would be hard to shove down my urinary tract We;ll twist some barbed wire into the shape of your favourite racial slur and work from there.
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Jun 2, 2017 19:45
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Lol they probably assumed when they saw that dude's facial hair he was going to lob her a nice softball
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Jun 2, 2017 20:50
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Holy poo poo Dimbleby in attack mode
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Jun 2, 2017 20:52
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She's speaking quicker and quicker, and trying to do the Thatcher mid-sentence breathing thing. I reckon she's spent every second since Monday being coached on this.
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Jun 2, 2017 20:53
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namesake posted:My god unless Jeremy has taken up drinking in the last day or there's a member of family of an IRA victim in this audience this already feels like a win for Jeremy. I'll give you at best evens on this.
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Jun 2, 2017 20:54
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Are the forums crapping out for anyone else? My last two posts didn't show up until a couple of minutes after I made them.
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Jun 2, 2017 20:56
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Al-Saqr posted:Wow Corbyn showing incredible confidence and form, totally direct and blasting the questions, good jorb Corb! His body language never looks quite right without a podium in front of him. Holy poo poo SNP question guy has the most punchable face so far, even more than "HURR WHY ARE WE GIVING FOREIGN AID" guy.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:20
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Lovechop posted:last three ppl asking questions all were creepy as gently caress, what's up with this crowd This Romulan lady is very angry about anti-semitism.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:29
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Oof, he's seriously on the back foot about this Trident thing, but then at the same time he's being less mysterious about it than May is about loving Brexit.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:39
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Supernorn posted:This lady is a hero. Interesting how much younger-sounding (if that's a thing you can judge) the people cheering her than the ones cheering Mr. "OH YOU WANT TO LET IRAN JUST NUKE US DO YOU?" were
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Jun 2, 2017 21:42
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jabby posted:HOW ARE YOU GOING TO STOP THEM JEREMY? Eh, one of the big problems with Trident for MAD theory is that it does have a (alleged) depressed-trajectory capability, which means it *can* be used as a coup-de-main weapon. It was a major point of contention when it came up as the Polaris replacement.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:45
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OwlFancier posted:This election is giving me a depressed trajectory capability. SSRIs have a similar problem, apparently.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:47
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"Dear jeremy, how can stopping me being exploited in a system that makes the call-on look like socialism possibly be a good thing?" Who am I kidding, this prick has never and will never work a day in his life.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:48
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Why doesn't he ever just answer "Listen you shitbags I'm talking about putting our corporation tax back to where it was 8 years ago, not loving melting down granny's gold teeth, shut the gently caress up".
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Jun 2, 2017 21:54
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So that facial hair is apparently worthy of being called on twice.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:56
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Random Integer posted:Who exactly is being deterred by the UKs nuclear weapons anyway? Who out there would be gearing up to invade right now if only the UK didnt have that one nuclear armed sub at sea? The loving French!
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Jun 2, 2017 21:57
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freebooter posted:Anybody putting the theoretical question to Corbyn about whether he'd press the button had better be prepared to back up whatever fanciful scenario it's taking place in. That Yorkshire bloke who cited North Korea, what kind of loving Call of Duty bullshit is that? Do these people still think Britain is a superpower that would be anywhere near the top of North Korea's hit list? We're pretty much number 2 on Iran's shitlist after Israel. They have long memories. Not that I think them nuking us is at least remotely plausible but we do have a long and storied history of loving up other countries.
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knox_harrington posted:This isn't correct. What about the nuclear weapons sharing agreements with Germany, Italy etc? That was an independent strategic decision made by the US, the UK has never agreed to loan nuclear weapons to any third party. We did have a small amount of warheads under dual control with the West Germans (mostly landmines along the IGB) which would have required agreement from both SACEUR and the FDR to detonate, but that's a very different beast from the US lending out a bunch of glide bombs so Belgium can pretend to be relevant on the world stage.
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