What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed. |
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The Big3 Tourney | 67 | 22.41% | |
Will Lakers draft Ball | 40 | 13.38% | |
Where will the Pauls go | 54 | 18.06% | |
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? | 41 | 13.71% | |
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking | 97 | 32.44% | |
Total: | 210 votes |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:gently caress KEVIN DURANT this is the offseason story line lebron's not coming to the spurs until 2018 when our cap space opens up
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 05:33 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:51 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:So someone help me out here. The Dubs are eventually going to eat poo poo financially for this roster, right? When does that happen, and what implications could it have? potentially next offseason and the two proceeding off seasons as steph, klay, and draymond's contracts come up
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 05:37 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Could they theoretically do that if they just went ungodly far into the tax? The cap makes my brain hurt. they could, but i think next offseason is when they have to start gutting the bench. 2 offseasons and klay probably leaves. but building around draymond, KD, and steph is still a great recipe for success
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 05:41 |
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Brolander posted:good idea thats a fine av, sir
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 07:05 |
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ex post facho posted:i kinda think im a spurs fan now. theyre one of the only franchises that has maintained constancy through great FO work without scraping the shook barrel. most of their talent is organic and in house and pop is still the best HC in thr league. sorry, but one of the requirements for spurs fandom is manu worship. its a strict policy, especially with his retirement imminent. other than that, i can only highly recommend the spurs. great organization to cheer for. great players, good stories, players actually develop and find success. its a ton of fun to follow during the course of a season. next year should be a good one to because dejounte is up and coming and kawhi is most likely about to have his best 5-7 seasons starting next year. spurs are going to be hungry next year and are one of the few teams who can potentially beat the warriors. oh yeah, plus a free bashez always there to make you feel better about everything other potential team to bandwagon: memphis grizzlies. they're cool as gently caress.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 18:56 |
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Ghost Dog posted:the spurs are the warriors except their boring players dont have an insane need to be loved and dont fake a personality its kind of a marvel to me because i remember watching the warriors in like '13 and '14 and being like, hey this scrappy team is cool and going to be pretty good once they overcome their injury problems. really, they should be even more widely appreciated because up until last year and their 73-9 season they really were a built not bought team that did everything right. but starting last year, or even mid the year before they started to get insanely hyped by the media and their players started becoming increasingly off-putting and i just found myself hating them. then they added kevin durant and ruined the west, which is unforgivable. Cool Buff Man posted:If you want everyone to assume that you're a racist idiot and you would like to spend years posting here to try to break free of the stereotype, the Boston Celtics are your team. this made me chuckle a bit. a hearty recommendation
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 19:13 |
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Ammanas posted:I just want to say, as a relatively new shitposter in this here dead basketball forum, RaySmuckles is someone I admire for his Takes. His Takes are genuine with just a hint of spice, exactly how I like my burritos. I don't even mind he's a Spurs fan, which is the milquetoast basketball fandom but shows a true appreciation for the sport. Thank you for the opportunity and the blessing of your posts thanks? i was just lucky that as a kid that i picked david robinson as my favorite player and then the spurs got duncan like 5 years later. anyway, if anyone wanted to see a picture that perfectly encapsulates why everyone in the world should hate the warriors now here you go: gently caress the warriors RaySmuckles fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jun 13, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 19:21 |
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Ammanas posted:after i paid you such a compliment you go and say such hurtful things about golden state, cmon man they didn't make that stupid rear end image, BR did well, before this new forums friendship continues, i need to make it absolutely clear that i am firmly in camp "gently caress the warriors" and "kd is a bitch" i'll never not feel that way. sorry, friend.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 19:29 |
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Ammanas posted:That's fine I partially agree with both points even if I am a fairweather bandwagon fan they are very good at basketball. kd is one of the best scorers i've ever seen and steph is probably the best shooter i've ever seen.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 19:34 |
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jackofarcades posted:I never wanna take Steph for granted. He doesn't always come through but man, he is the most broken bullshit in the league. He is changing the game by himself. the quickness of his shot and its incredible accuracy are otherworldly. it doesn't look natural. the guy is amazing.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 19:57 |
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how much does hayward move the needle in boston? he'd take crowder's spot, but isn't crowder a better defender? i guess crowder would move to PF which shouldn't be too bad a fit for him. hayward definitely offers an offensive upgrade, but how much of one? just wondering how people see that move playing out
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 04:54 |
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EvanTH posted:Hayward played for Stevens at Butler, yeah? yeah with great success (2x ncaa finalist) but that was college
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 04:59 |
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EvanTH posted:Thank you. I edited a more thorough Hayward evaluation with video into the post for you thanks for the video. not a knock, but i'm still just not really sold on him. from what i've seen of him he's an above average SF who can go off for a lot of points. but i'm not even sold on him being a top 10 SF or if he is, he's right around there. but maybe i'm really wrong. i really don't know and i'm sure him and stevens would be fun to watch together, but i don't know if that moves the needle in boston. especially with IT who is so ball dominant. hayward strikes me as a guy that would benefit a lot in a motion offense where he can exploit mismatches and defensive lapses. but they might let IT walk (probably won't) and maybe i'm just really wrong because i don't know enough about the kid. does seem to get a lot of extra hype for being a decent white SF though RaySmuckles fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Jun 14, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 05:29 |
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Cool Buff Man posted:Players that put up over 10 winshares get money thrown at them, like they should. Hayward scored 22 per game on drat near 60% ts. Sign me the hell up yeah i heard he was really efficient which is definitely a huge plus. Ammanas posted:Jimmy Butler i'm not saying jimmy isn't better, but bradley strikes me as a guy you would want to keep. stellar wing defender which is crucial with decent offensive output to boot. i don't see why they'd get rid of him for a slight upgrade who'd probably cost considerably more. plus the guy always seems to give a ton of effort which is super valuable. i don't watch enough celtics games to back this statement fully though. if i were the celtics i'd worry more about bringing in a better defensive center (and try to move horford to the 4) if they can sign hayward.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 05:41 |
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i hear you deimos, i think jimmy butler is great. i just think that too often people are looking at teams and saying "well if only they can sign these three max players they can compete" when that's not realistic at all. how do the celtics actually afford IT, Horford, Hayward, Butler, and now "a good center" in addition to a decently competitive bench? i'm saying that having solid role players on a team is a good thing because cap space is limited. if you have a role player that fits in well, then keep him and look elsewhere to spend your money. i mean, sure, the celtics should sign hayward and butler, and heck even demarcus cousins! that'd be great! but how do you actually make that work? look at the spurs. danny green is not a great shooting guard. he's an excellent defender and decent 3 point shooter. he can't dribble and doesn't shoot volume. but he works because he's cheap and what he brings to the table fits the system well enough. that's how i think about bradley. not every team can be the warriors. its not possible to just sign poo poo loads of all stars because that's not even how the warriors did what they did. i get that they've warped the perception of the league, but not every team is going to be the cavs and go waaaay over the cap to compete. instead people should be focusing on what pieces do they really need and what pieces do they have that can fit their system. bradley seems like a valuable role player that can play well enough so instead of fantasizing about replacing every position with an all-nba player we should be thinking about what positions really need the upgrade and how to make that system work. alright, i'm already beyond too many words. but its not about shooting down all stars. its about trying to be realistic. and i think the celtics already have a valuable starting nba shooting guard
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 06:22 |
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DeimosRising posted:In general I agree but Avery Bradley isn't very good actually. His best season ever is about as good as Green was this year, which was Green's worst year since he was a D-League call up. And he's never healthy to boot. He's a strangely overrated player, he's like the definition of JAG. thanks for this good reply. very solid! i'm shocked because i thought he was much better than green, and obviously i really like green i also agree that butler would be a much better improvement over hayward. but butler is a trade right? and hayward is an FA, so the celtics would have to give some stuff up for butler while they could get hayward "for free" (cap space). definitely interesting oh yeah, whats a JAG? RaySmuckles fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Jun 14, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 08:28 |
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Ghost Dog posted:this isnt to argue against your point, but the talk of playing low srs reminded me of something i looked up yesterday. Well really it reminded me of this: https://twitter.com/BruhReport/status/874822055723532288 did this guy say that kobe lost to the pistons in 2004 and then lebron knocked them out in 2005? because the pistons went to the finals in 2005 and lost to the spurs. lebron didn't see the finals for two more years, and i'm pretty sure the 2007 pistons were nothing like the 2004-05 pistons
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2017 19:00 |
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NickRoweFillea posted:If the NBA contracted the Grizzlies I would kill the NBA. This is an explicit threat on the life of the NBA. I am not joking. You will need to be lucky for the rest of your life, I will only need to be lucky once. this is how i knew the guy who wrote that list was full of poo poo. who the gently caress wants to get rid of the grizz? the grizz loving own.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2017 02:05 |
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BWV posted:They are both a fashionable and functional garment for such an occasion. Even the Spurs' fans are efficient. i'm dumpin my drawers right now and i didn't even have to waste time going to the bathroom literally poo poo posting
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2017 02:30 |
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Metapod posted:Lmfao drat thats some nice self-awareness KD
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2017 06:16 |
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lebron to the spurs in 2018 pop'll extend his career while keeping him in the hunt for championships and he'll have the 21st century scottie pippin as his sidekick note: kawhi is better than pippin
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 03:40 |
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david lee opted out with the spurs. wouldn't be surprised to see him try to land in GS if he can't find a satisfying contract. spurs may try to resign him at a slight pay raise, but have many other roster concerns to contend with. pau opting out means the spurs can probably just afford the status quo (patty and simmons). don't know how they're going to shore up their front court needs. maybe its time anderson took on full back up 4 responsibilities. probably bring over some tall euros.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 16:59 |
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he's not a free agent so the spurs would have to trade for him right? i'm just not seeing any major moves from the spurs this offseason, mostly just focusing on retention and shoring up the roster. its all about cap space in 2018 (when we chase lebron…jk…sorta)
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 17:08 |
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Bashez posted:The Knicks seem like a dumb enough team to ask for Kawhi in a trade. I don't think Kristaps moves, their price seems too high. i just don't think the spurs have any tradable assets for a high level player pau's new contract will be designed to retain patty/simmons and plan for 2018 note: i just don't see them trading danny green either after his team friendly deal, corporate knowledge, and being one of the best wing defenders in the league who can also sort of shoot 3s
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 23:17 |
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i think the lakers trade is decent for the lakers they need a solid center to compete and lopez seems like he can fill that role nicely and dumping the mozgov contract is great for them lopez seems like an above average center, am i wrong to think that?
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 23:28 |
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euphronius posted:Do you think rebounding and defense from your center is important ? almost certainly yes unless randle is a green level defender
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 23:33 |
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bummer to see kawhi cut his braids they were iconic in the modern nba and personally i thought he wore them pretty well
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 04:37 |
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false alarm. stand down, everyone apparently the guy who posted the photo, the chinese guy, said that kawhi still has his braids, its just the photo angle/quality.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 06:16 |
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zoux posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/877547283608477696 Jack's Flow posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq2aZm1R7t8 yeah, pretty sure the serbian team is the best, which is actually pretty cool and good. those guys have been scraping by for years and its great that the olympics and the general growth of 3v3 will get these guys paid RaySmuckles fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jun 21, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 16:52 |
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E2M2 posted:Lebron gone not until 2018, i imagine. i don't think there's a trade that can happen to put him in a place he would rather be
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 17:06 |
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here's some 3v3 basketball if anyone hasn't checked it out yet no pro players will be playing 3v3 in the olympics so this is what it'll most likely look like serbian team may not be as good since their best player will be like ~34 but maybe he'll age well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD9M4XiaqLM zoux posted:If Lebron leaves Cleveland again, I assume it wouldn't reach The Decision levels of rage but would it be worse than KD leaving OKC? i don't think people would begrudge him leaving a completely dysfunctional franchise and he already did what he set out to do in spectacular fashion (win cleveland a championship). besides, as long as this iteration of golden state exists i think it seriously relieves pressure on lebron's decisions. the warriors are the monster and the most important thing right now, so whatever lebron does is secondary to that
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 17:30 |
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trading danny would be a total bummer. but i think trading danny opens up space for hanga to replace his excellent wing defense, but hanga only offers limited offense and probably isn't nba ready, so maybe not. he always said he didn't want to play with manu because manu would take up all his time (presumably) but if they start him… or maybe just play him at the 3 with the bench unit and start simmons? anyway, danny's a great player and it'd be sad to see him go. the guy just fit on the team so well and even took a very team friendly contract to stay. maybe the cp3 chase is much more real than i ever thought (or hayward. i think he'd be a great fit too) edit: i like whoever said danny to the cavs, but i'm not sure he can offer enough offense for what they're going for. but he does significantly up their wing defense RaySmuckles fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jun 22, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 00:11 |
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zoux posted:Yes... but who hayward would be a good fit i think maybe trading danny is an additional sweetener to the knicks for king zing maybe they just want space to sign jsimms, patty, and bring over a new foreign legion
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 01:02 |
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Metapod posted:It's sam amico buts it's a slow day so here https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/877678974507286530 no way they're trading him, especially since pop did the whole "i'll not retire for you LMA (and also to coach the USA team in 2020)" but lma and danny for porzingis might be a viable trade and it clears cap space to bring in cp3 too, i believe
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 02:24 |
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this offseason is insane
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 05:03 |
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when does the madness start?
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 16:43 |
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so does all the drama happen tonight? or is it more tomorrow after the draft dust settles?
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 00:03 |
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free agents get signed on the 1st, right?
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 00:05 |
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where's my exciting spurs action?
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 03:04 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:51 |
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Punkin Spunkin posted:We're gonna draft some foreign guy nobody's heard of then make absolutely no exciting trades or signings i was ready, but then everyone got me all excited and lma unfollowed the spurs and poo poo and there was all this weird drama loving blue balled
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 03:09 |