Kaubocks posted:

tfw you join a farm party and you ask the other tank what strats they want to use but they don't say a word so you go "ok i guess you're pretty confident then guess we'll just roll with whatever" and then they die constantly

SwissArmyDruid posted:

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LOCUST FART HELL posted:

Towards the end of Heavensward I asked for yearbook photos of everyone's characters, and I'm doing the same again! Post a nice picture of your character for the thread, and if you took it and still have it, your picture from Heavensward!

Drizvolta posted:

I just wanted to say I appreciate that the tanks in this thread have contributed so heavily to meltdown may

Leal posted:

I hope Fray has an animation when you summon them and the boss leaps out of the arena or does some other invincibility bullshit where they just /facepalm.

Blast of Confetti posted:

yeah, it's nice to have a sec to summon fairy and aetherflow then using protect before the tank runs dick first in to stuff but a buff that every healer has that pretty much only gets used at the start of the dungeon isnt exactly what id consider worth keeping since you can just tone everything down a few percent points and have nothing change and I can accomplish the same thing by having /ready on my crossbar

DizzyBum posted:

Yeah it's one of those weird things that never quite made sense to me. It's like... Edgar shoots this whisk-looking thing from what looks like a cross between a fishing reel and a faucet, it knocks the enemy back, and gives them a totally unique status effect that works like FF9's Heat.

Kaubocks posted:

oh hey i didn't know you wrote the warrior job quests

Kaubocks posted:

i cannot believe nobody warned me about this until now

i am livid

Monathin posted:

Honestly as an idiot tank i dont ever expect anyone to help me when im dying except the healer (and sometikes not even then ) so if the Bard used Palisade or something during the tankbuster I know where my commend is going.

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

Maru makes a robot so is obviously a MCH. Abigail likes swords and darkness so can be a DRK. Penny's a nerd/SCH. Shane's a drunk so probably heals. You could probably class everyone in the village.

Saigyouji posted:

Except we can directly compare Art of War and Miasma II to see how potencies are going to work out, since they're functionally the same. (Miasma II is in most cases a 100 potency spell since you never let the DoT tick. It's 200 potency on ST because it's only used for weaving there. AoW is a flat 150.)

Failboattootoot posted:

Not just 20% dr but also a boost to the health and damage increases of vitality and strength respectively.

YoshiOfYellow posted:

I have distinct memories of this same cycle happening the past two expansions and yet somehow the only job that was in the dumpster was MCH.

Sleng Teng posted:

Thanks everyone! I think I just need to be a little more patient instead of trying to change everything at once and getting overwhelmed.


Unfortunately I have no low level jobs so I think several sessions of dungeon spam is my best bet. Hopefully getting used to controller on one job will lend itself on others

Kaubocks posted:

just ignore the scoreboard that tells you what level all your classes are

Vermain posted:

What I think you're seeing from the healer changes is a problem of the fundamental design issue that healers have: they're the only role out of the combat classes that does not have DPS as an intrinsic part of their role. With the final removal of Flash, tanks must DPS to hold enmity, and DPS classes must DPS to do anything meaningful at all. Healers don't have to do this, and that creates the kind of stringent dichotomy you're seeing.

There are likely a good number of players - probably, if I hazarded a guess, the majority - who play classes like SCH, WHM, and AST because they like healing and don't want to have to DPS, or they like healing and wouldn't mind DPSing, but are turned off by the difficulty in balancing healing with DPSing. I've been playing this game since 2.3 and have spent the overwhelming majority of it playing healers, and I still have trouble maintaining even AST's single DoT while also scrambling to keep everyone alive in pug groups. If you've been playing for a long time and feel you're effectively an expert at it, it's hard to empathize with someone who can barely keep up - but, more likely than not, that's the situation for most people playing healing jobs.

The result of this is that the dev team is stuck in a corner when it comes to expansion design and rebalancing. If the majority of the people playing healers are playing them to heal, then they're going to love seeing more healing actions that make them better healers. The minority that wants to DPS but finds the pot watching too complex will enjoy seeing a simpler rotation that makes it easier for them to DPS while healing. Meanwhile, the minority that is able to DPS and heal effectively is going to feel bitter because they're seemingly being ignored. Revising healing jobs down to a barebones DPS rotation is meant to try and satisfy the two largest contingents of people playing healers. It's obviously painful for SCH players who preferred keyboard piano rotations, but trying to cater to only a minority of players is unlikely to produce a good outcome moving forwards.


I'd suspect that's what the majority of players see as SCH's identity. Again, I think this is a minority vs. majority situation in much the same way as Eureka was: a lot of people in this thread hated it, but it was clearly well-received overall and likely kept their subscription numbers higher during patch lulls.

In reality, the only way to have a healing job in the future that has a more complex rotation that's baked into the basic gameplay assumptions is to have it as a brand new job and strongly push that as its identity.

World War Mammories posted:

my goalie is one a'those wall mobs in azim steppe

World War Mammories posted:

it's pronounce "dee-ah," you simpleton, you buffoon


i have been entirely sober for weeks and i will unironically pontificate upon similar themes. do not test me

jokes posted:

There was a 40-person queue to get into this game at 8:00 on a Wednesday.

We're so hosed on launch day.

Mechadestroyer posted:

Honestly, those memories are going to be what ends up causing me to actually alarm clock the expansion release, just in the hopes that if something like that does happen again i'll be able to slip ahead of it and work my way through the game at a relaxed pace.

SmallpoxJenkins posted:

So I hear that blue mage sucks poo poo, and also can't do group content?
(new to the game, be warned)

orcane posted:

The Black Stones posted:

You don’t have to change the character right when you do it? If thats the case I’ll definitely do it before then.

Glagha posted:

I mean it's petty but isn't that literally reportable? Booting someone because they aren't playing the way you want?

Edit: gently caress why did this have to be new page.