chutche2 posted:

I have no problem with gaunts, I think Genestealers are over powered but also necessary for tyranids to work currently, and I think anti infantry guns aren't good enough. I don't know why you're trying to turn this into some kind of meme.

chutche2 posted:

Remind me, when was the last time you posted anything with any redeeming value or merit?

DiHK posted:

I get it. I've only been following the 40k threads for a month or 2 and at first I wondered why everyone gave you a harder time than the normal goony levels of ridicule.

You're a munchkin. You're not a bad munchkin but it's definitely your nature. Storm Raven vs Land Raider is an excellent discussion, but you've framed it entirely in terms of table advantage. I have a Storm Raven and will get a crusader at some point, but for me they serve 2 distinct purposes and the only reason it's an either-or situation is because of cost.

There's nothing wrong with being a munchkin, but it's the antithesis of the reasons I game. And since I'm a goon I had to call you out.


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TheChirurgeon posted:

One of my favorite things about 8th edition is the FLY keyword and how models interact with units that have it. From getting bonuses against jump/jet infantry to allowing them to assault flyers, the changes have been nothing but positive

TheChirurgeon posted:

I guess, though Flakk missiles were only necessary when hitting flyers was otherwise impossible and even then they weren't worth taking most of the time because S7 AP4 against flyers was garbage. If they did put them in this edition, they could give them a +1 to hit models with FLY but you'd rarely take them over Krak missiles even then.


nobody misses that dumb poo poo hth

chutche2 posted:

Crisis suits traded JSJ for +1T and +1W that doesn't seem so bad.

JSJ was annoying bullshit that made me not want to play against tau. Not annoying in a "this is powerful" way, annoying in a "this is actively unfun to experience" way.

JBP posted:

Haha what the gently caress...

chutche2 posted:

Nah. Much like yourself, I mainly just shitpost.

Bombogenesis posted:

Okay I've gotta hear about this. Removing JSJ I get but why not just nerf the riptide to hell? Also are Breachers a thing now? Would totally field Tau just to use a fuckload of breachers.

JBP posted:

The most unique aspect of my army is it's lovely 7th edition rules everyone is glad are dead and gone.

chutche2 posted:

Yeah I can sympathize with this, it's been a core component of them forever. But removing bad mechanics makes the game better, tau have been compensated for the loss imo

I think the problem is tau have been at the top for a long time and are now in the middle

Lord_Hambrose posted:

At least piranhas are really good now

chutche2 posted:

Also, adding more people to my ignore list.

SpikeMcclane posted:

You see one model, but can kill the entire unit if you get enough hits / wounds.

adamantium|wang posted:

In this case 3 models of the red unit can see a model in the green unit and fire.



RAW the green unit does not get any cover and the owner of the green unit can allocate wounds to any one of the models in the green unit. Terrain and cover is pretty hosed in 8th.

tallkidwithglasses posted:

"For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are perishing-you who dread knowledge-I am the man who will now tell you." The chief engineer was the only one able to move; he ran to a television set and struggled frantically with its dials. But the screen remained empty; the speaker had not chosen to be seen. Only his voice filled the airways of the country-of the world, thought the chief engineer-sounding as if he were speaking here, in this room, not to a group, but to one man; it was not the tone of addressing a meeting, but the tone of addressing a mind.

"You have heard it said that this is an age of moral crisis. You have said it yourself, half in fear, half in hope that the words had no meaning. You have cried that man's sins are destroying the world and you have cursed human nature for its unwillingness to practice the virtues you demanded. Since virtue, to you, consists of sacrifice, you have demanded more sacrifices at every successive disaster. In the name of a return to morality, you have sacrificed all those evils which you held as the cause of your plight. You have sacrificed justice to mercy. You have sacrificed independence to unity. You have sacrificed reason to faith. You have sacrificed wealth to need. You have sacrificed self-esteem to self-denial. You have sacrificed happiness to duty.

"You have destroyed all that which you held to be evil and achieved all that which you held to be good. Why, then, do you shrink in horror from the sight of the world around you? That world is not the product of your sins, it is the product and the image of your virtues. It is your moral ideal brought into reality in its full and final perfection. You have fought for it, you have dreamed of it, and you have wished it, and I-I am the man who has granted you your wish.

"Your ideal had an implacable enemy, which your code of morality was designed to destroy. I have withdrawn that enemy. I have taken it out of your way and out of your reach. I have removed the source of all those evils you were sacrificing one by one. I have ended your battle. I have stopped your motor. I have deprived your world of man's mind.

"Men do not live by the mind, you say? I have withdrawn those who do. The mind is impotent, you say? I have withdrawn those whose mind isn't. There are values higher than the mind, you say? I have withdrawn those for whom there aren't.

"While you were dragging to your sacrificial altars the men of justice, of independence, of reason, of wealth, of self-esteem-I beat you to it, I reached them first. I told them the nature of the game you were playing and the nature of that moral code of yours, which they had been too innocently generous to grasp. I showed them the way to live by another morality-mine. It is mine that they chose to follow.

"All the men who have vanished, the men you hated, yet dreaded to lose, it is I who have taken them away from you. Do not attempt to find us. We do not choose to be found. Do not cry that it is our duty to serve you. We do not recognize such duty. Do not cry that you need us. We do not consider need a claim. Do not cry that you own us. You don't. Do not beg us to return. We are on strike, we, the men of the mind.

"We are on strike against self-immolation. We are on strike against the creed of unearned rewards and unrewarded duties. We are on strike against the dogma that the pursuit of one's happiness is evil. We are on strike against the doctrine that life is guilt.

"There is a difference between our strike and all those you've practiced for centuries: our strike consists, not of making demands, but of granting them. We are evil, according to your morality. We have chosen not to harm you any longer. We are useless, according to your economics. We have chosen not to exploit you any longer. We are dangerous and to be shackled, according to your politics. We have chosen not to endanger you, nor to wear the shackles any longer. We are only an illusion, according to your philosophy. We have chosen not to blind you any longer and have left you free to face reality-the reality you wanted, the world as you see it now, a world without mind.

"We have granted you everything you demanded of us, we who had always been the givers, but have only now understood it. We have no demands to present to you, no terms to bargain about, no compromise to reach. You have nothing to offer us. We do not need you.

"Are you now crying: No, this was not what you wanted? A mindless world of ruins was not your goal? You did not want us to leave you? You moral cannibals, I know that you've always known what it was that you wanted. But your game is up, because now we know it, too.

"Through centuries of scourges and disasters, brought about by your code of morality, you have cried that your code had been broken, that the scourges were punishment for breaking it, that men were too weak and too selfish to spill all the blood it required. You damned man, you damned existence, you damned this earth, but never dared to question your code. Your victims took the blame and struggled on, with your curses as reward for their martyrdom-while you went on crying that your code was noble, but human nature was not good enough to practice it. And no one rose to ask the question: Good?-by what standard?

"You wanted to know John Galt's identity. I am the man who has asked that question.

BaconCopter posted:

I don't know about you all, but I am totally down for probating every person that posted or quoted any Ayn Rand poo poo in this thread.

Less poo poo, more cool pics. Anyone painting any nids up after the new edition?

Corrode posted:

Hey tkwd - Forge World still sucks, but not as hard as you do

jng2058 posted:

Yay, "Atlas Shrugged", providing selfish assholes an excuse for their assholery since 1957! Ignoring the inconvenient fact that they are not, in fact, oppressed geniuses who aren't able to contribute to society because those loving poor people are keeping them down but are, instead, just a bunch of entitled pricks who can't prove mastery of anything more significant than CTRL-C and CTRL-P. You can tell, because if they could, they'd have been able to give us anything better than this 60 year old poo poo.

Anyway, I was putting together a 1500 point Imperium army, mostly Guard and Marines, and started looking at a vehicle heavy army. In my last game the Russ and Razorback I brought got Dark Lanced or Blastered into oblivion in a couple of turns. Has anyone had much success with going really tank heavy? I was looking at something like a Land Raider, a couple of Russes, a Razorback or two, and a handful of infantry to ride in the transports. I've heard that all Dread could be viable, but that's got a melee component that Tanks can only get from embarked infantry.

Thoughts?

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Thoughts?

Corrode posted:

You suck also

Zaphod42 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGRsDe3iRw

Master Twig posted:

Thousand Suns

goose willis posted:

I don't


This is fun, to you?

TKIY posted:

So:





Good loving luck transporting a grappling gun. Also not sure about the Aggressors... Possibly good, possibly a little too much over the top.

TwingeCrag posted:

Peep the cool gravis guys with dual plasma things in the back of the main pic

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/16/codex-space-marines-your-first-lookgw-homepage-post-1/

Corrode posted:

The Tac Marine kit is pretty old isn't it? The current one was recut to get grav guns into the game, but it's basically the same as the 3rd ed one from 1998 or so.

Corrode posted:

Was that Tau player standing dudes on top of solid buildings? That's not really how buildings work.

Corrode posted:

Buildings don't exist at all in 8th iirc except for the ones in the Imperium 2 index and a brief mention in Stronghold Assault, but both of those say to use them like before i.e. static Transports.

Agree that the terrain rules suck this time around, it's really poor.

muggins posted:

I don't know if this has been posted yet but loving lol

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

meet the new gw, same as the old gw

BIG MEATY SHITS posted:

Milotic posted:

If your board isn't covered in terrain, you're doing 40K wrong. It can be expensive (especially if you just do GW only terrain because you like the style / consistency) but it improves games both tactically and thematically.