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panascope posted:The Sisters of Battle loophole makes me think of Nixon from Futurama. "That's right, no body." The SoB loophole is probably my favourite bit of fluff in 40k. It perfectly sums up the Kafkaesque bureaucratic nightmare the Imperium is. That, or the leader of the Orks being named after Margaret Thatcher. That's just petty and hilarious.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2017 18:18 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 20:25 |
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So on the last page of the previous thread, I decided I was gonna make my Primaris marines purple. Then I remembered I have 10 MkIII marines laying around, so I used them to test the paint scheme. Then promptly nailed my colour reciepe first try. So that's: Prime black, basecoat Naggaroth Night, drybrush Xereus Purple, wash Druchii Purple. That's a god-drat RICH purple.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2017 18:40 |
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So I played my first game using only Primaris marines. Inceptors are absolutely brutal against infantry, 30" feels like you're lightyears away for a standard gun, but it still feels like they'd work better slotted into a regular marine army than a standalone army. So of course I'm playing them as a standalone army
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2017 12:35 |
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Thundercloud posted:I think bigly marines will be good for casual games, but ultra serious tournament play people will take a handful of biglys (particularly the plasma biglys) and the rest normal marines with tactical squads. I can see the jump pack biglys being taken in other armies too, because their whole deal is just spraying a whole bunch of S5 shots, on a really mobile and surprisingly tough platform.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2017 13:25 |
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Got the Primaris half of Dark Imperium for £50. Purple Biglys begin
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2017 22:15 |
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That second list is a lot better. As you said, boys before toys is the go-to for low points games, and it goes doubly for Biglys, because your boys are even more scarce. I can see a lot of people just not taking a captain in favour of more Lieutenants. Captains are just too expensive for something that's just not that good. Lieutenants are cheap and give a decent buff (especially for babysitting plasma biglys so they don't blow themselves up). A lot to love at only 74pts base.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 12:57 |
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Der Waffle Mous posted:I'm seeing tau players complain that dark eldar are overpowered I feel like I've awoken in some sort of topsy turvy world. Dark Eldar are in a really good place right now. They're still paper thin, but they really can do their famous alpha strike. Darklight weapons do amazing damage to vehicles.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 14:47 |
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Official word is 'wait and see' in the new book Cael is experimenting with making Primaris from the gene seed from the traitor legions that was stored on Terra. Well, it's implied, anyway. He tells Guilliman he wants to use traitor legion geneseed, Guilliman tells him no, and it's implied Cawl basically thinks "Yeah well I'm gunna do it anyway"
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 15:20 |
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Pendent posted:I'd been planning on painting up all my old Tac Marines as Sternguard with their fancy bolters until I actually started looking at the stats compared to Intercessors. Sternguard can come in drop pods or transports. Primaris can't.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 18:09 |
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Sanguinary Guard Ancients are really good. No morale tests and reroll 1s in combat within 6", -1Ld to enemies within 3", and 3 attacks at AP-3/Damage d3.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 20:45 |
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moths posted:The bigs look kind of amazing with chapter-specific heads. I was going to make mine Lamenters, but then I saw them with DA hoods... Mine are gonna be BA succesors, and on my lieutenants, I'm gonna use the Sanguinary Guard death masks.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 23:10 |
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Kithkar posted:I hope thefull bigly codex gets here sooner than later because I never want to have to use old marines again. I especially want their melee specialists to hurry up and appear, because I wanna do Death Company Biglys (I know that's not a thing for biglys but Rule of Cool dictates I must).
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 23:50 |
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chutche2 posted:What are your thoughts on the various ancients? Since they only affect models within 6 and not units, are they worth the cost? From what I've seen, they're too different to make a blanket call on good or bad. SangGuard Ancients are great, anyway.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2017 22:19 |
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Yeast posted:Finally got around to watching Zulu last night. Now I want to see them fighting against an ork army convered from the AoS Bonesplitter orcs.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 01:11 |
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JBP posted:CC dreads "loving own" now allegedly. So I don't see why not. I've been tempted to add a Death Company dread to my army because I'm making them BA successors.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 12:11 |
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I'm hoping for the entire suite of characters in Primaris. Captain, Librarian, Chaplain, Apothecary. Apothecary especially cuz my Primaris chapter are BA successors and Primaris Sanguinary Priest would rule.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 20:56 |
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SteelMentor posted:
And plasma pistols are even good now!
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 22:00 |
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The Bee posted:Of course, not needing LOS to charge is a big buff in favor of melee unit long-shots. If you can hook around a mountain or building corner and smash into the enemy, they lose Overwatch and you score the charge. Which is a change I really like. You can actually set up ambushes now! Like, hide a unit around a corner and force the enemy toward them, then charge around the corner.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 23:48 |
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Corrode posted:Am I being dumb or can Ironclad dreads not take 2x DCCWs? I swear this used to be a thing but maybe I'm remembering wrong. If not then wow they are expensive. They never had that option. Seismic Hammer or chainfist only for left arms.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 11:16 |
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The Bee posted:Looking at the Primaris stats, why doesn't the lieutenant's bolt rifle get the AP and extra range of other Primaris bolters? You'd think a weapon with a fancy title like master-crafted auto bolt rifle would get more than just 2 damage standard Marine bolter stats, and Assault instead of Rapid Fire. Does getting 2 shots at 24 inches instead of 15 inches really make such an overwhelming difference that giving it at least the extra AP would make it overpowered? It feels a lot like Lieutenants in particular were intended as babysitters for tactical squads.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 18:23 |
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My Primaris should be arriving tomorrow, hype to get started on them.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 19:22 |
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panascope posted:Also man power levels are a lot cooler than points Power levels rule. Being able to just say "gently caress it, all these dudes are WYSIWYG, deal with it" owns.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 20:21 |
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chutche2 posted:So speaking of nurgle stuff. I mean, I'd allow it. It's a cool idea.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 20:42 |
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Safety Factor posted:I see this argument the other way. People might be popping off chainsword arms to slap on See, if someone's trying to game the PL system like that, PL isn't the system for them.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 22:35 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:This discussion has given me the revelation that I could actually take a regimental or platoon standard in an IG command squad and not have my sanity questioned. I question the sanity of anyone playing IG and NOT taking as many standards as they can. Standard bearers, especially IG standard bearers, absolutely invoke Rule of Cool.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 23:29 |
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goose willis posted:Fluff-wise, how have Ork-Tyranid conflicts gone? Seems to me like they'd be never-ending and that pushing a huge number of Orks in the path of Tyranids would be a great way to keep a hive fleet away A god-drat meat grinder, presumably, since they can very easily fight each other to a stalemate.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 00:45 |
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Zuul the Cat posted:So I just bought the Deathwatch Chaplain and an extra Primaris Ancient to turn into a Primaris Chaplain. This'll be my first real time kitbashing. Here's hoping it goes well. Post pics of the result, I'm dying to see a Primaris Chaplain.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 16:23 |
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Sykic posted:I think I'm finally back into the painting groove. As someone who is also painting up a purple BA successor,
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 18:58 |
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Milotic posted:There has to be an element of tragedy or inversion for comparisons to make sense. Yup, the wording is just "saving throw" so it applies to both armour and invuln saves. You're far less likely to ever use it for invuln saves though, because most weapons whose AP is good enough to force you to use the invuln probably deals more than 1 damage anyway.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 11:10 |
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All I know is the Primaris dread has the option of a big gatling gun and if it's not just the Vanquisher's main gun on a dread, I'm going to be disappointed.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 17:28 |
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I spent today assembling my Biglys and a 1k army of them is even more terrifyingly small than I realized. 22 models.dexefiend posted:I already own 120 biglys... they just look so loving amazing. So you basically already own 6k of them!
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 17:47 |
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Not even any leaks of what's going up for Orr-order tomorrow. I hope there's at least a bigly librarian soon, I got two extra LTs from eBay and I'm tempted to pick up a space marine heroes box to kit bash them into a librarian and chaplain. Kitbashing biglys and little marines is gonna look weird. It's only really the helmets, backpacks and shoulders that are cross-compatible.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 18:15 |
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The Bee posted:That's true. Especially the legs, which looked more hydraulic on the old dreads. At least one of the gun options is a big gatling cannon that looks like the Leman Russ Punisher's main gun.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 19:01 |
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Uroboros posted:I'd agree that they could've done everything they've done fluff wise minus primaris being their own unique unit. Updating model lines is not uncommon, and simply saying they are a new tactical marine release to coincide with the timeline push wouldn't of been that big of a deal. Most people would gradually update their marine lines. Au contraire. The wailing and gnashing of teeth would make AoS' launch look like a bump in the road.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 22:10 |
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Xarlaxas posted:I was skimming through the rules digest (waiting for my full rulebook still) and I couldn't find anything about Base Size rules: do they have any specific requirements in 8th edition? The official GW line is "Use the bases the models come with". So if your marines are still on 25mm, you get grandfathered in.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 23:08 |
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Using bigger bases than you're supposed to should be universally accepted anyway, since having a bigger base is basically an objective downgrade.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 16:08 |
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I've broke ground on painting the Purple BIglys. It looks even better than I hoped.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 20:18 |
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CyberLord XP posted:I have a question about points values. I have a squad of 10 Ork Boyz. Total 60 points. If a Boss Nob takes the place of one Ork boy is it then 67 points? Or am I doing this wrong? Other than like, one or two exceptions, all squad leaders are now free upgrades. So 60pts.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 21:29 |
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My primer fuzzed and ruined my Gravis Captain, Ancient and one of my lieutenants
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 15:11 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 20:25 |
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Reivers are goofy in the best way possible. I want some to paint up as Death Company Primaris. The characters are both cool as gently caress, though.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 19:20 |