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ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
Maroon Wave!



*November happens, nothing but republicans and centrists

MaroonMoron Wave!

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


so i guess people are really super angry about AOC calling out crowley's fuckery if they're twisting one line from a tweet to try to make it appear she supports buckley's racism.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


check this out: AOC ran as a democrat, the party of genocidaire andrew jackson, the kkk, jim crow, vietnam, the 90s crime bill, iraq war supporters, and friends of bankers and plutocrats

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


by polyanna's calculus, both obama and clinton were massive unrepentant racists, sexists, and homophobes cause they both spoke positively about reagan's vision for america. oh wait, that'd have more meat to it than what polyanna's pointing at to claim that AOC is racist

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Jazerus posted:

buttigieg

the people were astonished by this doctrine

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


all those apply to clinton (who owned slaves alongside his wife) tho

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Buttigieg has robbed the people of South Bend blind

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Agean90 posted:

all those apply to clinton (who owned slaves alongside his wife) tho

excuse me, they borrowed slaves (but also had final say on any contracts involving them), tyvm

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

Condiv posted:

so i guess people are really super angry about AOC calling out crowley's fuckery if they're twisting one line from a tweet to try to make it appear she supports buckley's racism.
The Buckley thing is deeply funny because literally no one knows who that is or cares about it at all. Centrist Dems hoping this gets the NY-14 voters riled up against AOC are like the people who thought Trump's 300 word vocabulary would hurt him in the election.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Agean90 posted:

all those apply to clinton (who owned slaves alongside his wife) tho

yeah, but you're listing actual evidence of her racism here! polyanna's going "she said he debated his opponents and that was good! SHE MUST LOVE RACISM AND HOMOPHOBIA TOO!"

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Condiv posted:

obama and clinton were massive unrepentant racists, sexists, and homophobes

yes.

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
TBH though Obama probably wasn't 100% racist, but he just didn't care enough. Not much of a distinction since the outcome would've been the same either way

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Here's a non succ article from Vox. I especially like at the end where he says the Dems could be headed the way of the whigs if they don't start listening.

Vox posted:

I’ve spoken to hundreds of voters in “flyover country.” Socialism is an easy sell.
Kentucky voters are ready for a bold progressive agenda.
By Richard Becker Jul 12, 2018, 12:10pm EDT
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Kentucky Public school teachers rally for a “day of action” at the Kentucky State Capitol to try to pressure legislators to override Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin’s recent veto of the state’s tax and budget bills on April 13, 2018, in Frankfort, Kentucky. Bill Pugliano/Getty Images
First Person
Vox's home for compelling, provocative narrative essays.

On a bitterly cold day in late January, I knocked on the door of a home in Louisville, Kentucky’s Camp Taylor neighborhood. I was running for state representative in a Democratic primary and was spreading the word about my candidacy. Camp Taylor was an interesting community politically: It was full of registered Democrats who hadn’t been turning up to vote in recent elections.

A woman in her 50s came to the door and peeked through the curtain at me. “Hi,” I said. “I’m Richard Becker and I’m running for state representative!” She turned the deadbolt and opened the door.

“I just wanted to stop by and introduce myself and find out what issues—” I was interrupted by a voice from further in the house. “I want to know if you’re gonna fight for people like me!” a woman’s voice said from the couch.

“That’s my daughter,” the woman said. “She got hurt in an accident and can’t walk very well anymore.”

“And now this governor thinks I should have to go to work to get my health care? I can’t even walk to the bathroom without help!” the younger woman cried out, referring, presumably, to Gov. Matt Bevin’s plans to impose work requirements on Medicaid recipients.

“I don’t know what to say,” I said. “And I don’t know what to tell you other than I will fight for you. Fighting Gov. Bevin’s Medicaid work requirements and fighting for universal—”

“What we need is single-payer health care!” the mother interrupted.

“I couldn’t agree more,” I said. I stopped by that house twice more before the end of the campaign, and by Election Day, they had placed one of my signs in their yard.

I’m a union organizer who ran in Kentucky on a leftist platform and I was campaigning in the state’s 35th District. Predominantly white and working-class, the district exists in a sort of bubble within Louisville. Containing rapidly gentrifying, liberal neighborhoods like Germantown and Schnitzelburg, as well as more conservative areas like Okolona and Lynnview, the 35th District holds political lessons about the viability of a progressive platform for those willing to listen.

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It’s a district that is overwhelmingly Democratic by voter registration numbers, but like many communities across the South, the Democrats here don’t necessarily always vote with their party. The district went for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primary by a margin of 53 percent to 45 percent. In the general election, Hillary Clinton won the district with just 54 percent of the vote, or 9,554 votes, out of a total of more than 18,000 Democrats. Many of the registered Democrats in this part of town voted for Donald Trump.

I knocked on hundreds of doors. While I didn’t win my race — I finished second in a three-way primary — through my conversations, I heard over and over again that Louisville voters were tired of timidity, incrementalism, and equivocation. They craved boldness and candidates who will not only fight for them but with them on issues that affect their lives: truly universal health care, free college tuition, combatting income inequality, and restoring and strengthening workers’ rights.

The popularity of the teacher strikes show that “red” states are ready for progressivism
I ran for the state legislature in the shadow of an intensely controversial legislative session that saw right-wing Gov. Bevin ram through so-called “pension reform,” gutting retirement benefits for public employees. Apparently startled by the backlash to his proposals, Bevin lobbed vitriolic insults at teachers and other public employees, calling them “selfish,” “thuggish,” and “ignorant and uninformed.”

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Centrist Democrats are crucial to building the left’s power in the Midwest
Bevin’s push to make cuts to public employee retirement benefits came as teacher strikes swept the country, from West Virginia to Colorado. Inspired by their fellow educators across the country and angry over Bevin’s insults, Kentucky’s teachers shut down their schools for several days earlier this year and rallied in Frankfort, the capital.

To stand, as I did, on the steps of the Kentucky State Capitol amidst a sea of red — striking teachers, marching en masse on the legislature, wore red to symbolize solidarity (“Wear Red for Ed[ucation]”) — underscored one of the values we had set out to uphold on the campaign: that an organized working class is the most powerful political force you’ll find.

Across Kentucky, the potency of the teachers’ movement persists, with record numbers of educators running for office, and one teacher, R. Travis Brenda, even defeating an incumbent, House majority leader Jonathan Shell, in a Republican primary. Brenda ran on a pro-pension, pro-public education platform. This uprising echoed in red states across the country is proof of a nationwide working-class awakening.

Voters are fed up with a political class that defends its corporate masters and spits in the faces of working-class people. An overwhelming majority of voters, 77 percent, want to see the influence of money in politics curbed, while establishment politicians of both parties continue accepting campaign checks from big business.

Democrats need to reach out to people disengaged with the political system
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s stunning victory over establishment Democrat Joe Crowley in New York’s 14th District primary this year set off the latest iteration of Democratic Party hand-wringing over the future of the party. Establishment Democrats across America wasted no time in admonishing the left to know its place and discounting Ocasio-Cortez’s success as an aberration and a product of her deep-blue district. This political earthquake, they assured us, was most certainly not indicative of any broader political trend.

But to see the potential of progressive politics, even in supposedly moderate states, we need only look to the success of candidates like Virginia’s Lee Carter, a 31-year old former Marine who ran for the House of Delegates in 2017 as an open socialist against an entrenched Republican incumbent — and won. Or, obviously, Bernie Sanders’s 2016 presidential campaign, which saw victories in Rust Belt states across the Midwest, including Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan, and West Virginia.

Further, polling suggests that progressive or even “socialist” policy prescriptions actually enjoy considerable support among voters, with Americans supporting a federal jobs guarantee by a margin of 52 percent to 29 percent.

With only 23 percent of voters casting a ballot in the 2018 Kentucky primaries for both parties, progressives within the party have a real opportunity to expand the voter pool by offering a message that draws people into the political process. The Democratic Party can win by attracting non-voters who are disengaged from a political system and bought and paid for by corporate America — and by embracing the next generation of political leadership, a generation that by all accounts is more progressive than their parents on almost every issue.

Although I didn’t win my bid for public office, the issues I ran on — Medicare-for-all, restoring and strengthening workers’ rights, and free college tuition — resonated overwhelmingly with the voters I spoke with. I earned the endorsements of sitting members of the Kentucky General Assembly and more than a dozen local labor unions. Not bad for someone campaigning on an openly left-wing platform in a supposedly centrist city.

The question today is: Will the party continue to circle the wagons around more corporate-friendly, “mainstream” candidates, or will it welcome and support truly progressive candidates who will fight for the working class?

How Democrats choose to answer the call of my generation will likely determine whether the party goes the way of the Whigs — drifting away into history as a failed political party — or if it can secure majority status once again. If and when the party chooses to open itself up to more progressive elements and ideas, you can bet there will be millions of us ready to help realize that vision.

Richard Becker is a union organizer, millennial, and political activist in Louisville, Kentucky. He ran for state representative in Kentucky’s 35th District in the May 2018 primary election."]
TBH though Obama probably wasn't 100% racist, but he just didn't care enough. Not much of a distinction since the outcome would've been the same either way

https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/7/12/17562648/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-tammy-duckworth-socialist-democrats-midwest

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
well the internet and power is finally loving working again time to log on to the forums

*suckzone unread posts: 250+*

:suicide:

maybe the anarcho-primitivists were right after all

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

white sauce posted:

who gives a poo poo if AOC isn't confrontational or (correctly) doesn't wanna be labeled as "angry"

let a pissed-off socialist veteran be the angry confrontational guy

maybe CSPAM can come together and help someone get elected? :thunk:

Fuckin' TBS is being the voice of reason in the thread. WHAT IS HAPPENING

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

well the internet and power is finally loving working again time to log on to the forums

*suckzone unread posts: 250+*

:suicide:

maybe the anarcho-primitivists were right after all

agriculture is a mistake

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

mila kunis posted:

they say russia is controlled by corrupt obligarchs.

you know what else is? thats right, the democratic party of the united states of america.

:yeah:

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
if you succ in the succ zone thats basically like 69ing with your posts

except this is the only time 69 is not "nice"

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Fleetwood posted:

no one hardly saw hillardy campaigning because she was fighting hacker demons lawnmower man- style in cyberspace

Imagine some evil-looking Russian hacker, just dripping slavic-ness, hacking away at Hillary's server. Suddenly his screen is replaced by Hillary, who says "Game's over, buster" and his monitor explodes.

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal

Raskolnikov38 posted:

well the internet and power is finally loving working again time to log on to the forums

*suckzone unread posts: 250+*

:suicide:

maybe the anarcho-primitivists were right after all

:hai:

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Thoguh posted:

lol, remember when he held that rally at a recycling factory and the Democrats thought it was a huge self own that he was standing in front of cubes of compacted aluminum cans?



He did that multiple times. The recycling plant, the literal garbage processing, and a few others that were so "lol worthy" by the so-called HRC progressives.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

He did that multiple times. The recycling plant, the literal garbage processing, and a few others that were so "lol worthy" by the so-called HRC progressives.

its sooo tacky. neither them nor their hamptons donor friends would be caught dead there

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3863247

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