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mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

gradenko_2000 posted:

As Maine Paineframe said farther upthread, when regressive conservatives tried to hold-up FDR's New Deal, he only pushed back harder and went for even more radical reforms. That he was stopped just short of packing the Supreme Court is indicative of him willing to throw decorum and bipartisanship to the wind in pursuit of his goals.

When regressive conservatives tried to make Obama a "one-term President", he just kinda rolled-over and said "eh, what're ya gonna do?"

And then we cheered him on as he "trolled" the GOP in 2015 and 2016 to little or no effect besides making a bunch of snappy headlines and one-liners.

I'm pretty sure Obama didn't do anything at any point after killing osama bin laden

maybe killing a fellow Muslim stripped Barack of his divine power I dunno

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mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

MizPiz posted:

of course he did, he let two of them survive

three

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Willa Rogers posted:

oh wait, that $19k/year for medicare was actually the figure from 2012, lol.

wait, what's caused medicare costs to skyrocket that much? Even people putting off care in their early 60s shouldn't drive it that hard

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Willa Rogers posted:

that figure is for those on medicare aged 65+.

I reckon it's a combination of factors, from Part D calling for the government to subsidize retail pharma pricing to "that last year of life accounts for x of medical spending" (aka "end-of-life care") to private insurers' profits being capped under the ACA at a *percentage* of medical costs, which does nothing to rein in inflationary medical pricing.

Plus, you know, medical inflation, which has outpaced other sectors for a long time.

Here's a KFF study from a few years ago that examines the various factors, including increased longevity.

Thanks. I'm still not totally clear why private insurers even get involved with Medicare itself (ignoring supplement/advantage), despite having worked on cases involving it.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
well i mean skokie vs Illinois nazis was pretty explicit about 1st amendment rights

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Serf posted:

4e was too good for this world and remains the best rpg i've ever read or run

2e is better since it has dynamic movement . lot of bad poo poo in it though so it's the best one to retroclone

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Serf posted:

drat, mastershakeman is wrong and bad in every thread he posts in lol

yeah im sorry that 99% of d&d nerds don't even realize the movement issue change in 3e and were always playing the wrong way as babies

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Serf posted:

drat son your opinions on elfgames are as bad as your opinions on politics. tho those often go hand in hand

are you ready to talk about halforcs in a multicultural society baby

also all my political opinions are Good, no matter how often i change them

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

gradenko_2000 posted:

The movement rules in Combat & Tactics that mastershakeman adores so much are an example of AD&D having a bunch of arcane bullshit that technically made it a better balanced game compared to 3e, but at the same time were such an rear end to track because they were so fiddly that I can't imagine anyone wanting expend the effort nowadays.

In this analogy, all the 2d10 initiative, two-phased movement, spell-learning rolls and strictly observed spell reagent rules represent the burden of bureaucratic busywork of Third Way Clintonism.

4th Edition said no to all that means-testing horseshit and just forcibly redistributed spell slots to all the classes.

considering you know edition history better than anyone on the entire internet you know the truth of what i'm saying! i should've caveated that 2e is superior for players but not for DMs, I can't imagine having to DM all that fiddly stuff all the time let alone trying to balance any fights


also FF6>4>10>1>7>9>8 > who cares about the rest

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Jazerus posted:

spelljammer







these are rad


huh, weird that 2e introduced spelljammer, dark sun and planescape. its almost as if...2e is best?????

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
my group's been doing tuesday nights for 2-3 hours via google hangouts for video + roll20 for playing and it's actually working way better than anyone expected. we just either play someone's char or have them sit out if they're on vacation (obv if the dm's out of town we just don't play)

one time we had huge technical issues and just did a conference call which worked surprisingly well since we weren't doing super focused combat that night

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Serf posted:

chapo is 4e

psa is 5e

whats cumtown then, call of cthulu?

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Main Paineframe posted:

the modern police force has only been around for a bit over a century

it was created to enforce Jim Crow and suppress the growing labor movements

we didn't actually need professional police forced until we started using using the criminal justice system as a mechanism for enforcing race and class divides

what'd people do for the big felony crimes prior to that (murder, kidnapping , etc)

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mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Main Paineframe posted:

typically, it was a community affair. there'd be a sheriff or two, supported by (often unarmed) volunteer constables and a neighborhood watch. if poo poo really went down, the sheriff would round up a posse of volunteer helpers or call in the militia. in places where there was a particular problem, a detective agency would be hired

this was sufficient for dealing with violent crime, which wasn't all that common anyway. but since those systems were inherently designed to protect communities, they weren't very good at protecting the commerce and profits of rich industrialists, and they weren't a reliable bulwark against the social shifts caused by the Industrial Revolution and the rise of capitalism. so professional police forces started springing up with the objective of enforcing class divisions, protecting the property and infrastructure of the mega-rich, intimidating the increasingly-poor working class into submission, and cracking down on social movements that could potentially threaten the oligarchs' profits or position. in the American South they had the extra objective of enforcing racial divisions as well as class divisions

that sounds good for most areas but sounds unworkable for high crime places. then again the current method isnt working either

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Main Paineframe posted:

the traditional method isnt perfect. it does have some problems scaling to the massive population densities in places like NYC. but in general, the reason crime is high in "high-crime places" is due to underlying social and economic causes. but fixing those social and economic causes would require redistributing wealth and breaking down much of our class system, so instead we invented police forces to try to intimidate the poor into submission instead

these "high crime places" are high-crime because of poverty, pervasive lack of opportunity, and a population relegated to being essentially second-class citizens hated by the law. fix those and we don't need cops

yeah im not disagreeing w/ any of that just that any push for cutting back on cops is gonna get the 'but what about all the murders in austin and auburn gresham' and whatnot . which go unsolved anyways but no one wants to admit why (utter lack of trust w/ cops, said economic issues, etc)

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

anime was right posted:

lol she took money from the trump cabinet member she let off the hook w/r/t illegally foreclosing on middle class homeowners

what exactly did mnunchin do anyways, was it something that people actually think he could've been convicted of considering how easy it is to get away with white collar crime?

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Phone posted:

he's an irl saturday morning cartoon villain

look at him for gently caress's sake, he's a fuckin lizardman

yeah

anyways I read the intercept coverage of the memo but not the memo itself and lol his company was backdating every single loving document. nice.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Barry Convex posted:

BDS, an issue of great concern to the average IL voter. christ

to be fair, biss's office is in Skokie so he probably reacted to local pressure

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Brogeoisie posted:

that's fair but why did he put a gay socialist on his ticket then. it's almost he's a loving spineless dumbass?

he probably didn't check on the BDS thing and just wanted Bernie voters and then woops here comes a few thousand angry folks

he never had a chance due to sponsoring the death to pensions bill but was clearly hoping to bury that and split off the left wing vote.

he's still a better choice than pritzker or Kennedy. he totally hosed up vetting on this though because biss should've known how big a deal this was for his base

mastershakeman has issued a correction as of 02:15 on Sep 7, 2017

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

punk rebel ecks posted:

The mod misspelt it. The correct term is "Hilltai".

hilolli

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
I have a sweet purple iowa shirt that's a big pig with sunglasses and the word IOWA . No idea where it's from of what it means.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
the Luther burger remains the supreme gimmick burger, the only question is if you use two glazed donuts vs one

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

jBrereton posted:

fwiw the British who fought war of 1812 also did not have a particularly big army ever unless at war (and most of their troops were fighting napoleon), hence why they got so owned in every serious conflict.

except at new Orleans where Wellington's troops came over under his brother in law's command to put down uppity Andrew Jackson and got wiped out . eat poo poo Brits

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
re nationalization: doctors should make like 60k on 20 hour work weeks and there should be 10x as many of them . since residency slots are paid for by Medicaid this isn't a problem

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

the bitcoin of weed posted:

oh poo poo this rules

seriously how did he sneak that in there lmao

has the USA ever had a wealth tax? that was surprising to see

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

EugeneJ posted:

https://twitter.com/katereadsbks/status/908375519225188352



Those people who are definitely not me sure had bad intentions!

well yeah because she couldn't even pass the dc bar and had to flee to flyover country without any prospects

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

fits my needs posted:

why do Suck zoners only like progressive 80-90%+ white states :thunk:

same reason every liberal thinks Europe if the best place in the world

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Frijolero posted:

LOL this is the best one

https://twitter.com/sam_kriss/status/909164023081586688

Hillary in summation:

Terrible writer
Powerhungry
Hates interacting with people

it's fun to imagine her as a despotic office manager if she'd never married bill, convinced that the business owners never listened to her when she knew exactly how to make everything work better

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

zegermans posted:

was he though? His tax cuts expired and immigration reform/SS privatization failed. All he got done was medicare part D


I guess his whole day 1 "lets get saddam" thing went off pretty good though

it took a lot of planning to take out 3 and a quarter buildings and blame it on foreign foes so yeah he was quite effective

obama didn't actually have any goals though so it's more of a divide by zero in comparison

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
it's really too bad that Gary Johnson kept Trump from winning Minnesota because God drat Hillary was a bad candidate

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
m4a is worthless without also quintupling the number of doctors

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Serf posted:

imagine if we made doctors state employees and offered to pay for your schooling

and have lower salaries, stripping them of their rightful political power? I think not

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Venom Snake posted:

I think there has yet to be a study that has proved things like this happen. This is the same argument made against things like minimum wage

it's not quite the same but that pretty much happened with the Obama first time home buyer credit just upping prices

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
Are there any focus groups yet for what to call the worse than copper plans that will arrive in a year or two. nickel? brass? puce?

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
this new health care bill isn't going to pass so who cares and don't get worked up about it

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

loquacius posted:

It was intended mostly to get the country talking about single-payer

and boy howdy is it doing that

no I meant the graham whatever one

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Grondoth posted:

Only bad DMs allow this

Paladins are good guys. That's the point of the Good alignment, if your church says "kill all these heathens" and they're not literal demons from literal hell the paladin's conflict then becomes between his conscience and his duty, and the archetype demands the realization that his duty is to his conscience

I did always wonder what a schizophrenic who grew up with D&D books would look like, though, Good to finally know

wrong. the heathens must convert or die. I'm playing a literal campaign on that right now, mopping up the one area that escaped the historical Imposition of the Faith

DM has given us a ton of clues that we are 100% in the wrong to do this as well which owns even more . my guys main contribution is spreading bloody pox among said heathens booya

going all in on d&d alignment/religion stuff like this is the best

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Serf posted:

utterly unsurprising that a maga chud would play in this campaign

I'm actually playing a character damned to hell no matter what he does too, it's cool (unless I buy an indulgence before I die, which the church will happily sell me for an exorbitant price)
wootles

it's too bad the literal Catholic priest in our friend group had to quit playing when he moved to another parish

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
everyone would be much happier if they played role-playing games as an escape from real life . it should be mandatory after the equally mandatory church service on Sundays

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mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Serf posted:

yeah, that's why in my rpgs we smash capitalism

I hope the player characters get to be comintern and then have a few sessions of killing each other off

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