Jazerus posted:

mcgovern is the real answer to "when have the dems been too ambitious"

but mcgovern would win today so

Main Paineframe posted:

???? makes perfect sense to me

loquacius posted:

The Russia stuff is hilariously illegal and will eventually lead to a bunch of Trump upper brass being sent to jail which owns,

etalian posted:

lol
https://twitter.com/shujaxhaider/status/903615982891098112

Guy Goodbody posted:

skip to about 6:30. it's not just a throwaway joke, it's a whole bit that goes on for like four minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np2XrGyKkAM

punk rebel ecks posted:

Because the Soviets sucked.

got any sevens posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/hardcore_hank/status/905210136167309313

Some Idiot posted:

I don't think Hillary deserves the flack she's getting in this thread, but whatever. It's still happening all over America.

From the outside looking in, I despised the polarising nature of the Democratic primaries. This is something I've seen up front in Canadian leadership races, where leadership candidates will occasionally have to mind themselves from getting too personal, lest their create too much ammunition for the opposition to use against them in the next election.

I do blame in part, the Bernie-or-Bust movement. We know that many of those people voted for Trump because they had built up in their minds an image of Hillary as a villain.

And now we are still at the point where we can't talk about this rationally, where Hillary cannot even explain her side of the story without being accused again, of not taking responsibility. She is taking responsibility, but she's also allowed to explain in great detail exactly what she saw.

Course I still think Hillary's biggest obstacle was the fact that she's a woman. I just can't see past this one truth I've always seen in politics, that in the court of public opinion, scandal sticks to women, older women especially far more than it sticks to men.

Some Idiot continued posted:

This also speaks to another inherent frustration with politics, wherein it's one person's political record vs a guy who just has said a bunch of stuff. Inevitably, one gets challenged for all these difficult decisions they had to make while in office at high positions, and the other one can just shout loudly with nothing to be held accountable for.

Lessail posted:

she's such an awful person lol

safely sodomized posted:

hillary running a murder inc in DC to kill off her enemies would probably improve my opinion of her at this point, at least it means she goes to some sort of effort to win

etalian posted:

Remember how MAGA legions claimed one reason to vote for Trump is that his business experiences means he would find the most qualified people the world?

A vote for Trump was a vote saying yes you want to American Empire to go through a hilarious dramatic death.

Guy Goodbody posted:

She was tricked! You can't blame Clinton for voting for the Iraq War, that silver-tongued devil George W. Bush clouded her mind and fooled her senses with his elaborately constructed deceit.

Scent of Worf posted:

anyone know what an eight percenter is?

the bitcoin of weed posted:

this is important

guillotine landlords and double-guillotine developers

Willa Rogers posted:

why don;'t you count obama as a boomer?

he's self-absorbed, neoliberal, preoccupied with enriching himself above all other things, and full of hubris---all of the things I see attributed to boomers on a regular basis.

gradenko_2000 posted:

good morning

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/911223340773380096

Nonsense posted:

nationalistically

Willa Rogers posted:

Clinton delegates were reportedly instructed to chant "U.S.A." when Sanders delegates chanted "No more war," and "Hillary" when Sanders delegates chanted "Stop the TPP."


[there was a graphic going around a couple months ago of all the counter-yells hillary delegates were told to use against bernie delegates but I can't find it]

Lastgirl posted:

cool cool cool

le centrisme going very swimmingly in germany and france literally showing that its all a gateway to right wing nationalism

fkn neck yerselves centrists

mushmouth chamberlain appeasement rear end motherfuckers

Helsing posted:

etalian posted:

The Expanse is really good.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

look @ this nerd who reads books instead of watching tv

babypolis posted:

my opinion of obama wasnt very high to begin with but i had respect for him, these days hes straight up garbage to me. his post presidency has been particularly heinous and i think the fear of his legacy being tarnished is only gonna make it worse

babypolis posted:

a case of someone thinking old news was new news, obama saying kapernick should consider the pain of military families. i thought it was recent too but my point about obama being garbage still stands

Shear Modulus posted:

Well in first world capitalism they did it slightly differently in that the people they immiserated were in other countries

The loving Atlantic posted:

The point then, as it was in 2016, was to discredit the American system, to keep the Soviets (and, later, Russians) loyal to their own system instead of hungering for Western-style democracy. But it was also used in Soviet propaganda around the world for a similar purpose. “This is a principal Soviet propaganda theme,” says Dudziak of the Soviet messaging at the time. “What’s described as communist propaganda that circulated in India overplays the story sometimes but also very maudlin stories about things that actually happened. Sometimes, in Pravda, all they needed to do was to reprint something that appeared in Time Magazine. Just the facts would themselves inflame international opinion. On top of that, the Soviets would push the envelope.”

Over Easy posted:

https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/926256477471428608

Come on kid, these centrist fuckers were against gay rights in big, depressing ways until the needle on the public opinion meter edged into pro-gay (more like less vehemently anti-gay) territory only half of a decade ago. Why, why, why do some of my fellow homocitizens STILL have such raging beautiful hard cocks for the corporate dems?

We are a bloody shirt waved from the corporate battlements by the HR representatives that populate the establishment apparatus. We should be mad bout that poo poo!

Montasque posted:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/927876262722498560

MaxxBot posted:

Not satisfied with just rehabilitating GWB now the resistors have moved on to another terrible idea.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/929679813702508544
https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/929370405068034049

Frijolero posted:

NPR loving blows.

I was just listening to it a few minutes ago. They're talking about how China is tricksy and corrupt in their capitalism whereas we respect the rule of law too much, as such China is owning us economically.

Thoguh posted:

It's a big deal that a bunch of people compromised by Russia are openly operating at high levels of government.

gradenko_2000 posted:

Hot take: this specifically isn't very threatening because Elon Musk can't build poo poo for poo poo.

Baloogan posted:

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

the democrats!!

https://twitter.com/nycmayor/status/935989186649346050